Spray tan...barrier cream?

[emk32]

hi all

i have recently started to do spray tanning and in my training nothing was mentioned with regards to using cream around feet, palms of hands, finger nails, elbows and knees i only found out through a friend when they have had a tan in the past that this was applied!

so my question would be is this really necessary as nothing was said to me and if so what cream would u use? i understand that i suppose putting this on that it would give a neater finish around the feet and hands but was just concerned that perhaps i was missing something that i should be doing! at the mo i have still been doing friends and none have had any complaints.

thanks

 

[number1kitty]

hi all

i have recently started to do spray tanning and in my training nothing was mentioned with regards to using cream around feet, palms of hands, finger nails, elbows and knees i only found out through a friend when they have had a tan in the past that this was applied!

so my question would be is this really necessary as nothing was said to me and if so what cream would u use? i understand that i suppose putting this on that it would give a neater finish around the feet and hands but was just concerned that perhaps i was missing something that i should be doing! at the mo i have still been doing friends and none have had any complaints.

thanks

Its not vital but it should have been shown or mentioned in training. I use an oil free moisturiser cream on the backs and palms of hands and the tops and soles of feet as well as backs of ankles and knees/elbows and I find I get an absolutly flawless finish!

HTH

Kate

 

[cazjp69]

I dont show this when training because if the client has exfolaited properly and you have your gun set correctly and are not spraying too close to the client you wont end up with fingers which look like you've smoked a packet of 60 **** in two hours lol

 

[number1kitty]

I dont show this when training because if the client has exfolaited properly and you have your gun set correctly and are not spraying too close to the client you wont end up with fingers which look like you've smoked a packet of 60 **** in two hours lol

Yes but if your experienced then you get this right. Newbies should use barrier cream everytime. I still use it on clients on tops of hands and feet to give a flawless tan suitable for HD filming etc. HD TV picks up the smallest flaw and its worth giving not only celebs a HD finish for also my clients - After all they are more important to me than TV Contracts.

 

[angelina221]

Tanning solution tends to 'grab' at any dry patches and make them look darker so it's a good idea to moisturise the area to avoid it.
I get my clients to apply moisturiser to elbows, knees, back of the ankles, inbetween fingers and toes and any excessively dry patches they have anywhere else.
I have clients all the time saying they have never been told to moisturise anywhere else and that they've had bad tans at a lot of places. Your clients will appreciate that you have taken the right steps to give them a fab tan and will come back for more.
I do 50+ tans a month and 99% of my clients are from word of mouth.
Had a client yesterday and she said she heard about me cos i was all over facebook!
It's amazing that if you do a good job, you get a lot of recommendations.

 

[number1kitty]

Tanning solution tends to 'grab' at any dry patches and make them look darker so it's a good idea to moisturise the area to avoid it.
I get my clients to apply moisturiser to elbows, knees, back of the ankles, inbetween fingers and toes and any excessively dry patches they have anywhere else.
I have clients all the time saying they have never been told to moisturise anywhere else and that they've had bad tans at a lot of places. Your clients will appreciate that you have taken the right steps to give them a fab tan and will come back for more.
I do 50+ tans a month and 99% of my clients are from word of mouth.
Had a client yesterday and she said she heard about me cos i was all over facebook!
It's amazing that if you do a good job, you get a lot of recommendations.

Yes its amazing isnt it the little things we do that make all the difference to our clients.

The girls I train are so shocked that the little things I make them incorporate into their treatments their clients are shocked that they have never had such a great service and flawless tan from anywhere else.

So I will always keep moisturising lol! x

 

[collin]

we dont advocate the use of barrier creams which if the technique is right really isnt needed whatsoever and can in some instances cause more problems than its use prevents..tide marks etc.

At best the use of moisturisers can help however if proper pre tan prep is done..which you as a therapist should advocate as part of consultation and ongoing support..well its really not necessary.

The only real recommendation for use of barrier creams and or moisturisers is in actual fact for post tan purposes ...the first nights sleep with some moisturiser applied to the palms of the hands does avoid orange palms from touchy touchy goings on during sleep things :hug:

 

[angelina221]

we dont advocate the use of barrier creams which if the technique is right really isnt needed whatsoever and can in some instances cause more problems than its use prevents..tide marks etc.

At best the use of moisturisers can help however if proper pre tan prep is done..which you as a therapist should advocate as part of consultation and ongoing support..well its really not necessary.

The only real recommendation for use of barrier creams and or moisturisers is in actual fact for post tan purposes ...the first nights sleep with some moisturiser applied to the palms of the hands does avoid orange palms from touchy touchy goings on during sleep things :hug:

Well i have to completely disagree with you there.
I have clients that have gone elsewhere before and have never been told to apply moisturiser. They have followed the pre-tan advice and ended up with dark elbows, knees etc...
I give all my clients pre-tan advice but if they have excessively dry skin then it doesn't matter if they have followed the advice.
I have really dry skin on my elbows and knees and if i don't moisturise then i get dark patches.
It is vital that i moisturiser and the majority of my clients have dry knees, elbows etc...
Also some clients will have a good old scrub when exfoliating and make the skin even drier!

 

[number1kitty]

Well i have to completely disagree with you there.
I have clients that have gone elsewhere before and have never been told to apply moisturiser. They have followed the pre-tan advice and ended up with dark elbows, knees etc...
I give all my clients pre-tan advice but if they have excessively dry skin then it doesn't matter if they have followed the advice.
I have really dry skin on my elbows and knees and if i don't moisturise then i get dark patches.
It is vital that i moisturiser and the majority of my clients have dry knees, elbows etc...
Also some clients will have a good old scrub when exfoliating and make the skin even drier!

Even if you ask them to exfoliate you can't guarantee they have done it right. Thick gloopy barrier cream can cause problems but moisturiser won't leave tide marks and can act still as a barrier to palms & soles.

I have been doing tanning 7 years + and I have to say I have gone through periods of using no barrier cream, using just barrier cream and using moisturiser. I prefer using something and I especially love moisturising now as it really does make a huge difference to your clients end result. If you do use a moisturiser make sure its oil free and light so the DHA still penetrates lightly through to the skin.

Theres no saying you can't play with both and find whats right for you and your clients as everyones different.

Kate x

 

[collin]

Well i have to completely disagree with you there.
I have clients that have gone elsewhere before and have never been told to apply moisturiser. They have followed the pre-tan advice and ended up with dark elbows, knees etc...
I give all my clients pre-tan advice but if they have excessively dry skin then it doesn't matter if they have followed the advice.
I have really dry skin on my elbows and knees and if i don't moisturise then i get dark patches.
It is vital that i moisturiser and the majority of my clients have dry knees, elbows etc...
Also some clients will have a good old scrub when exfoliating and make the skin even drier!

Of course there are many many ways of applying a spray tan and each therapist adops their own regime and technique that suits them...:hug:

However with something like around 10,000 spray tan applications applied by therapists each and every week that have been trained buy us on how to apply a spray tan without the use of barrier creams... cant all be wrong can they :hug:

 

[shel84]

I use barrier cream! Im confused now am i not ment to?

 

[cazjp69]

Originally Posted by angelina221
Well i have to completely disagree with you there.
I have clients that have gone elsewhere before and have never been told to apply moisturiser. They have followed the pre-tan advice and ended up with dark elbows, knees etc...
I give all my clients pre-tan advice but if they have excessively dry skin then it doesn't matter if they have followed the advice.
I have really dry skin on my elbows and knees and if i don't moisturise then i get dark patches.
It is vital that i moisturiser and the majority of my clients have dry knees, elbows etc...
Also some clients will have a good old scrub when exfoliating and make the skin even drier!

I suffer from Psoriasis and I never put on barrier/moisturiser before I spray myself and there is nothing wrong with my tans. As long as you are trained correctly and are confident you don't need the use of these creams as Colin said it can make tide marks if you dont get the cream in the correct place. Working in a high school and looking at some of the tans the students come in with I think someone could do with a bit of retraining as we have alot of orange/ tidal marked students hehe

 

[angelina221]

I was trained correctly and am very confident in my technique.
I have never had one complaint.
It's interesting going back through old threads to find that Tantrick trainers and suppliers have advised people with psoriasis to gently moisturise before a tan-could that be that these are dry areas that will grab the tan?!

 

[ambermay]

I think the answer here is that its your call,

Usually when your new to tanning I would say apply a small amount but you'll soon realise its not necessary unless they have real dry patches,
I use barrier cream when I think its really needed on dry elbows or knees etc but otherwise I dont bother, I've never had a compliant either way.

 

[collin]

I was trained correctly and am very confident in my technique.
I have never had one complaint.
It's interesting going back through old threads to find that Tantrick trainers and suppliers have advised people with psoriasis to gently moisturise before a tan-could that be that these are dry areas that will grab the tan?!

There is absolutely no problem whatsoever using a barrier cream or moisturiser for specific reasons such as psoriasis or with customers who are suffering from particularly dry skin areas however for general everyday spray tan applications if the technique is correct...there really isn't any need whatsoever.

If as a therapist you choose to use barrier cream techniques then that's also fine...everyone is different.

That said if its not nesseriy..one does have to wonder why do it :hug:

 

[~Jenny~]

I have been tanning for many years, like Kate I have gone through stages of using a cream and stages of not using a cream....at the moment I am purely because I like to do that little bit more for my clients....even if it is only making their feet nice and soft!! xx

 

[angelina221]

Well i live in a hard water area so we have lots of dry skin
Having said that i would still moisturise if i didn't.
Thousands of spray tanners use moisturiser and don't get 'tide marks'.
Surely they can't all be wrong either.
If you successfully tan without moisturising that's fine but to insinuate that peole who do moisturise are not trained properly or not using the right technique is unfair.

 

[number1kitty]

We all have different techniques and methods. So long as the end result is good for the client then no worries. Theres many bad tan techs that don't moisturise/use barrier cream and many that do! I have found with my 7 years experience I prefer to use it as I think it gives a better finish not because I am bad at tanning!

Kate

 

[Beautification]

I've been using moisturiser etc on the bottoms of my mums feet and her hands and her feet especially still always turn out really really dark!!
So it doesn't seem to work, anyone got any ideas?

 

[SunSpray]

Of course there are many many ways of applying a spray tan and each therapist adops their own regime and technique that suits them...:hug:

However with something like around 10,000 spray tan applications applied by therapists each and every week that have been trained buy us on how to apply a spray tan without the use of barrier creams... cant all be wrong can they :hug:

Ooh Collin I'm so sorry but I, too, wholly disagree with you. I was sprayed by a Tantrick-trained therapist a few months ago who didn't offer any barrier cream, oil-free moisturiser or sticky feet. Although I exfoliated the night before as usual before a tan, my feet, knees, elbows and hands are still slightly dry and the tanning product did indeed grab those areas. The soles of my feet were quite dark too, having stood on a black towel that was possibly stood on by who-knows-how-many previous clients.

I've spray tanned hundreds of clients now, and am convinced less than half of them follow my (clear and precise) pre-tan advice, so I always apply barrier cream, oil free moisturiser and use sticky feet.

Providing these products takes seconds and costs pence, yet as has been mentioned in previous posts, it gives the client a feeling of a better, more thorough service (which it is). Otherwise, let's face it, the whole appointment would take between 5 and 10 minutes, with a regular client anyway, and quite frankly I'm more than happy to give each client a few more minutes and make a few pence less profit in order to give such a great service and ensure great results.

xx