Spray tan patch test

[jes]

Hi,

Nothing was mentioned at my training but after looking on the internet I am wondering if I should be doing a patch test. Do you do a 24 hour patch test before a full DHA spray tan?

Thanks jes

 

[Jessica Rabbit]

Your advised to do a patch test beore any product is applied to the skin.. hth x

 

[collin]

There are many different thought processes on this subject however if you check with your insurers and from a good practise perspective it is advisable to undertake a patch test on ALL new customers.

Specific attention should be paid to pregnant females.

The chances of a reaction to a spray tan application are minimal...however there is always the 1000/1 chance there could well be.

Given the fact the solution is applied to the entire bodies skin surface someone who does have an adverse reaction may well end up in hospital...it is not nice to see and most certainly to have.

Safe guard yourself,your reputation and your customers health and do undertake this test...it may be a little inconvenient for you and your customer however I'm confident any customer will thank you for your due diligence if things go horribly wrong.

Enjoy spreading the :Love:...a good tan is a safe tan :hug:

 

[jes]

Thanks for the comments so far you have confirmed what I was thinking.

I always insist on doing patch testing for eyelash tinting etc but I am always disappointed at the amount of people who turn around and walk out saying they will just go elsewhere.

Maybe I could write a disclaimer, to sign, into the client record card if the client insists that they do not want to have a patch test, against my strongest advice?

Jes

 

[collin]

Thanks for the comments so far you have confirmed what I was thinking.

I always insist on doing patch testing for eyelash tinting etc but I am always disappointed at the amount of people who turn around and walk out saying they will just go elsewhere.

Maybe I could write a disclaimer, to sign, into the client record card if the client insists that they do not want to have a patch test, against my strongest advice?

Jes

I am not sure if your insurance company will accept this..maybe worthwhile checking with them.
A disclaimer may also not stand up in a court so again be wary here.

In so far as customers going elswhere....point out to them that this test is in "their" benifit...im sure if put in the right way most customers will appreciate your professionalism .

Good luck

 

[Jaffacake]

this is ok if you are salon based but not practical for mobile techs like myself. I am not going to travel 20 mile round trip to do a patch test on someone. Also I get a lot of people who book last minute and barely have time for the tan before they are going out, a patch test wouldn't have time to develop and like you say they will go elsewhere and get it done without the patch test. JMO

 

[Terese]

Sherrie, if you are spraying WITHOUT a patch test I know with Babtac you are invalidating your insurance!!!Read the small print in your handbook.

It may be an inconvienience doing a roundtrip....but it will be more of an invconvienience when your up in court on a neglegience charge and all your hard work in building your buisness up would have been wasted.

This type of blaise' attitued , is in my opinion what gets Mobile and Salon based therapists a bad name...............if you cant do it properly dont do it all.

Jess in answer to your q....Im a mobile therapist and when someone rings up I explain that I have to do a patch test and they are happy with that. When I go and see them I record the mileage to claim back...hope this helps!

 

[jes]

Well if you are spraying WITHOUT a patch test I know with Babtac you are invalidating your insurance!!!Read the small print in your handbook.

Yes, I'm with Salon Gold when I get home I'll read their policy documents. If it's still unclear I'll call them Monday

Thanks
Jayne

 

[Jaffacake]

i'll look into it with my insurance company which incidentally is NOT with babtac!

I do take exception to your tone in talking to me, I don't have a 'blase attitude' at all!! l was not taught to patch test when I did my training either!

 

[collin]

The thing is that attitudes and thinking on these sorts of things evolve over the years...what wasn't tought back then is now taught in order to keep up with current thinking and good practise.

The problem is that we now live in a society where law suites are an every day occurrence and it really is best to adopt a code of practise that mitigates such things as much as possible.

It is indeed much more difficult for a mobile therapist to adopt the patch test rule compared to a salon based business however it is essential all therapists no matter what type of business is operated covers their backs wherever and whenever possible.:hug:

 

[tonilee]

I teach my students to 24 hour patch test all new clients, I patch test the majorty or my clients also ( my salon and the girls that come to me at home) However, what I will say is I agree with Sherrie in that its not always possible to patch test, for example demo days, charity events, fete etc.....this is where your doing spray tans on an ad hoc basis how the heck do we get around that one? I am totally aware that disclaimers are a waste of time and more than likely wont stand up in court, so personally in these instances I take the risk.....Nor am I blase or have a sloppy attitude thank you very much!!

Further still dare I mention TRADE SHOWS, where we see the likes of Tantrick, Fake Bake, St Tropez blah de blah are demonstrating spray tans on peope walking round the show......did they do a patch test all new customers? NO!! Why not? Because its not always feasable!!

Also, models coming along for spray tans on courses, students that practice on each other during training.........tell me the truth all you trainers that do 121 training sessions......do you honestly drive out the client (some travel a fair distance to come to me for training I dont know about others) but do you honestly drive out patch test them before the training session?? I bet you dont!!

I would love to hear what insurance companies advise us to do in such situations

 

[collin]

I teach my students to 24 hour patch test all new clients, I patch test the majorty or my clients also ( my salon and the girls that come to me at home) However, what I will say is I agree with Sherrie in that its not always possible to patch test, for example demo days, charity events, fete etc.....this is where your doing spray tans on an ad hoc basis how the heck do we get around that one? I am totally aware that disclaimers are a waste of time and more than likely wont stand up in court, so personally in these instances I take the risk.....Nor am I blase or have a sloppy attitude thank you very much!!

Further still dare I mention TRADE SHOWS, where we see the likes of Tantrick, Fake Bake, St Tropez blah de blah are demonstrating spray tans on peope walking round the show......did they do a patch test all new customers? NO!! Why not? Because its not always feasable!!

Also, models coming along for spray tans on courses, students that practice on each other during training.........tell me the truth all you trainers that do 121 training sessions......do you honestly drive out the client (some travel a fair distance to come to me for training I dont know about others) but do you honestly drive out patch test them before the training session?? I bet you dont!!

I would love to hear what insurance companies advise us to do in such situations

Attitudes and awareness to possible dangers in what we do,eat,drink and smoke evolve over the years and in consequence companies adapt their training routines to keep pace with these attitude changes as well as of course health and safety,insurance and legal requirements which also evolve over time.

The point is,as has been made clear already on this thread,is that there are many therapists out there that are not aware of the dangers of adverse skin reactions to spray tan solutions...let alone what to do if this rare break out occurs.

In business, as in real life ,we all take risks however it is essential to be aware of the risks you take.

Clearly there are cases where the patch test is either not known about,completely ignored,or done in most situations wherever possible...these are risks which the therapist is aware of and is prepared to take on.........basic risk assessment.

What is alarming is the number of therapists who aren't aware and simply are oblivious the dangers they are putting their customers in as well as the possible damage to the reputation of their buisness...let alone the potential financial implications of a law suite.

In so far as Tantrick is concerned it is the very reason of our "risk assessment" and responsible attitude towards these issues that we no longer undertake spray tanning at trade show's.

At the end of the day the choice of patch testing is entirely at the discretion of the therapist as there are no legal requirements covering such matters...however it is prudent to check with your insurers and consider the risks being taken by not acting on the side of caution and ...well....wherever and whenever you can...do the test :hug:

 

[champagne]

I soke to babtac about this and they advised doing a patch test 10 mins before treatment.

I patch test, then carry out consultation whilst the solution/wax is on the skin....they (babtac) advised that if anything is to happen, they say, it would appear fairly quickly.

 

[tonilee]

Now this is what I call useful info!! Thanks for that chuck!! That actually solves my ad hoc problem!!

 

[champagne]

Yep just dab them as they walk in .... sit them down consult & check for reaction...

People who walk in for wax/tans providing they have exfoliated for tan dont want to wait 24hrs...& prob would rather go somewhere else...

 

[Red Ruby]

Just a quick question....where would be the best place to patch test a spray tan?

 

[champagne]

I do inside the elbow or behind the ear....i use a cotton bud & dab a little on...

 

[JuJu@MB&S]

I soke to babtac about this and they advised doing a patch test 10 mins before treatment.

I patch test, then carry out consultation whilst the solution/wax is on the skin....they (babtac) advised that if anything is to happen, they say, it would appear fairly quickly.

I am loving this advice!! I had been looking into buying tiny test pots to send out with little samples, before the appointment, but this would of course massively affected my profits, and of course caused me problems with last minute bookings... Awesome advice, thank you very much :hug:

 

[Jaffacake]

ok, 10 mins before is much easier to do, thanks for that info x

 

[jes]

Hi, Thanks for all the replies,

As promised I've just phoned my insurance company (Salon Gold) and they told me that I have to follow the recommendations of my spray tan supplier.... so I phoned Sienna X and they advise a 24hr patch test under the following circumstances;

• If your client has not had a spray tan before
• has sensitive skin
• has had a reaction from self tanning products in the past

I intend to put those three lines onto my client record cards and if anyone answers yes to any of them then they're gonna have a 24hr patch test

I really advise anybody in doubt to contact their insurance companies to find out their policies on this.... best to be safe than sorry

Jes