Steam sterilisation

[ValencianNails]

If somebody would like to correct me then go ahead but this is just my understanding and opinion that sanitisation is used for tools, hands, skin, nails, worksurface etc before, during and after service, disinfection is used for floors, worksurfaces, walls, bowls, etc (as these cannot possibly be sterilised) and sterilisation is used for your tools.

Sanitisation is perfectly fine and acceptable practice for tools, definitely no need to sterilise unless you're contemplating doing invasive surgery :wink2:

http://www.salongeek.com/nail-geek/42232-sterilizing-files.html
http://www.salongeek.com/nail-geek/34423-disinfect-sterilise-discard.html
http://www.salongeek.com/nail-geek/33282-disposable-sanitizeable-disinfectable-file-abrasive.html

 

[Zingara]

Here is the link to the Habia code of practise for nail services.

http://www.habia.org/uploads/Nails_Code_of_Practice_LRES.pdf

The relevant section...page 7, recommends disinfection of all tools and surfaces in between each client, and states that sterilisation is unnecessary for all nails services unless the nails are infected or the skin cut or pierced.

As many threads on here show....we have all been trained to different levels. I personally would advise everyone to either pick up a copy of this booklet at one of the exhibitions (they are usually free), contact Habia for one or download and print from this link. This should be our bible as one cannot necessarily trust that every single tutor out there knows this code...the most up to date recommendations - as I well know. I have come across several, in recent times, who still think a spit and wipe acceptable.

As an aside, I'm impressed that there are actually clients out ther concerned about sanitation or sterilisation.....mine usually come to me from the local NSS and are just pleased I'm not re-using the tips that they pinged off the lady sat in the chair next to me!:lol:

 

[nails by sharon]

followed general advice and kept the steamer for fish and chicken. Opened an account with wholsalers today and got barbicide.

On a totally different note, it has just occurred to me that i do not have insurance. How many of you guys do not have it?

Realised today. i went to see a local salon to chat about me doing some free work experience for them, as i did a course with stonebridge and feel i need practical experience as well (would not recommend a postal course!!)
They were very keen and liked my folio, complete with before and after pictures.

anyway, they said they wouldnt be sure if their insurance would cover me and i would need to have my own. it hadnt even ocurred i would need it!!

My course was recognised by the guild of beauty therapists and entitles me to apply for membership for about £100. this includes liability insurance. would you recommend i do that, or is there somewhere else i can arrange it instead? (bearing in mind my qualification is an ASET level 3 and not NVQ- some professional bodies do not recognise it)

They want me (and i do too!!) to do the bio sculpture gel course, work for them for a while and then rent a manicure station so they can concentrate on other therapies etc. i am so lucky and feel it is all falling into place. my hard work seems to be finally paying off. i may be doing one day a week for free at a salon, but the experience and final goal are priceless!!

 

[Ruby]

Now don't be offended but you really must take on board what Sassy has said
and I am afraid that I wonder exactly what course you were on that doesent teach correct methods of sanitisation .
A food steamer does not sterilise anything a baby steamer only sterilises bottles teats ect .and of course they have not come into contact with hepatitis hiv fungus.
For correct steam sterilisation you do need an autoclave you can only autoclave metal implements .
I also find it hard to beleive that a person trained to be a Nailspecialist would not be told about insurance
Ruby

 

[nails by sharon]

Now don't be offended but you really must take on board what Sassy has said
and I am afraid that I wonder exactly what course you were on that doesent teach correct methods of sanitisation .
A food steamer does not sterilise anything a baby steamer only sterilises bottles teats ect .and of course they have not come into contact with hepatitis hiv fungus.
For correct steam sterilisation you do need an autoclave you can only autoclave metal implements .
I also find it hard to beleive that a person trained to be a Nailspecialist would not be told about insurance
Ruby

not offended and totally agree. that is why i am using my intitiative and doing free work experience for these guys. I would say that these 'postal' courses are very misleading and lead you to believe that you will be ready to go after they are done. they tell you little more than a few months worth of internet research. i would imagine that most people do not try to build on what they have done and unleash themselves on the general public believing that they are ready to go- quite scary really. £300 that could have been spent more wisely. at least i have recognised this and am doing something about it.

 

[Ruby]

The trouble is these people prey on anyone who wants to seek a profession in nails
there is a nail course everywhere you look ,thats why its best to go to a long standing trainer such as CND ,and others its such a shame that they can get away with it.
You would be best to save up and go on another well recognised course .
In fact I would even phone trading standards and see if they can do anything.



Ruby

 

[nails by sharon]

The trouble is these people prey on anyone who wants to seek a profession in nails
there is a nail course everywhere you look ,thats why its best to go to a long standing trainer such as CND ,and others its such a shame that they can get away with it.
You would be best to save up and go on another well recognised course .
In fact I would even phone trading standards and see if they can do anything.



Ruby

will look into it

 

[Cathie!]

If it's a nail/beauty salon their insurance should cover it provided you are supervised....ask them to check with their insurer.

If you are going to be working on members of the public independantly, you will need your own public and product liability insurance.

There are several bodies out there who will accredit training courses and provide insurance, the organisations who submit their training plans have to pay a fee for accreditation and the the students who have passed the course pay for membership....money talks lol.....who knows what would happen in the event of a claim....

I know there is one body, who actually scrutinise the training plans, materials and information, ask for additional information and won't accredit until they are sure... and don't request a fee before they will accredit the training.

 

[xAnnaBannAx]

Here is the link to the Habia code of practise for nail services.

http://www.habia.org/uploads/Nails_Code_of_Practice_LRES.pdf

The relevant section...page 7, recommends disinfection of all tools and surfaces in between each client, and states that sterilisation is unnecessary for all nails services unless the nails are infected or the skin cut or pierced.

As many threads on here show....we have all been trained to different levels. I personally would advise everyone to either pick up a copy of this booklet at one of the exhibitions (they are usually free), contact Habia for one or download and print from this link. This should be our bible as one cannot necessarily trust that every single tutor out there knows this code...the most up to date recommendations - as I well know. I have come across several, in recent times, who still think a spit and wipe acceptable.

As an aside, I'm impressed that there are actually clients out ther concerned about sanitation or sterilisation.....mine usually come to me from the local NSS and are just pleased I'm not re-using the tips that they pinged off the lady sat in the chair next to me!:lol:

Well having listened to you all I will certainly be reading up from habia from now on...like i said before, a previous tutor had told me about using a baby steriliser..i was told that all salons had to have an autoclave by law but due to the expense etc then thats not really viable for mobile techs so the baby steriliser would be sufficient, and I have also read on here of various people using them for sterilising and I was taught to believe that sterilising is paramount and the steriliser made perfect sense to me...when you are taught things by a teacher that compared to you...seems to know everything then you dont really think to question it...you accept what they say as true and like i say...it made perfect sense to me....its frustrating to know that i cant even trust a qualified tutor to give me the correct information so habia....here i come! lol x

 

[marketing-geek]

Yes disinfection is a step up from sanitisation and although disinfecting greatly removes pathogenic bacteria on a non-living surface it does not remove bacterial spores

You can get disinfectants that are sporicidal - both the Mundo instrument & tool disinfectants are.