Switching from Creative to Young Nails?

[bralynstudio]

i'm thinking of switching from creative to young nails (try a starter kit first of course)....my understanding is that it is easier to work with, and that the cost per service is less expensice than creative. i don't want to sacrafice my final nail product for cost by no means. i just am not liking creative because the whites don't seem as pure and crisp as young nails. or am i imagining this???

anyone use both brands and see a difference in this????

thanks.

 

[shedunlop]

Yes! I have just switched. I ordered the trial kit and it was wonderful! Even my client noticed the difference and has been texting me daily to tell me how pleased she is. She has been with me for 8 years and has been pleased with her nails so far but is just blown away by Young Nails!

I personally found it easier to pick up a bead and lay it down again, it stayed where it was put and the only way I can describe working with it is that is is smoother. Very little buffing afterwards and I have cut my time down by 20 minutes!

I have been doing nails for 9 years am fully trained and was pleased with Creative overall but as Geeg says us oldies should always keep our eyes open to new products and methods. I wholeheartedly agree with her!

Try Young products and see how you get on. I found it very worthwhile!

Good luck

Sheila x

 

[bralynstudio]

thanks shelia!! you just made my day....I AM SWITCHING!!!! i will be calling mindy (my rep) soon as she gets back to town on tuesday!!

 

[shedunlop]

Good luck with your new products, you will love them. Also have a look at the gel products and best of all get the Nail Art DVD and you will be totally inspired. Have a look at the glitters and nail art bits and pieces, it really is a young and exciting range.

Love and best wishes

Sheila :lol: xxx

 

[Jessicles]

I use creative, but use some of the colored powders from Young Nails. And I find Young Nails to be difficult to work with. Yes, it is "smoother", but I find it very "sticky" and the set time is hard to get down...it sets about 40% of the way VERY quickly, making it hard to get the shape/smile line decent..then, when you think it's set, and you can't move it at all....it takes FOREVER to fully set... Like twice as long or more than Creative. I tend to like to pull forms off as I finsh the pinks, because most clients don't love the feeling of them. And I can't do that with Young Nails. I've pulled off more than a few free edges!

I love the colors of YN powders, esp the neon colors, they are killer, I just have a harder time getting a decent nail. It may be less filing because it's "smoother", but it's more filing because of the strange set time. Also, and I can NOT figure this out...but when I pick a bead up, the side of the bead that is touching the brush turns white. This white stuff remains and sometimes marbles the acrylic. So what I'm forced to do is place the bead so the white stuff is on the bottom of the free edge and the regular color is on the top. Anybody that happens to read that and has an answer, definitely let me know... That is very annoying also.


Anyway, this is just my experience. Different strokes for different folks. That's why there isn't just one company out there.

 

[bralynstudio]

jessicles, im wondering if its turning white when you use it because your mixing it with creative liquid. i was told by my instructor that mixing brands like this could cause various reactions....you think maybe this might be your problem??? maybe im wrong, but its a thought.

 

[Jessicles]

When I first ordered YN powders, I ordered their monomer and got the same issue. When I ran out of monomer about a year later, I decided to try it with Retention+ on myself to see what happened. Nothing different happened. Sure, it's not recommended, but I have had no issues. If I ever do, I will take responsibility for them, for sure.

 

[spn01]

i'm thinking of switching from creative to young nails (try a starter kit first of course)....my understanding is that it is easier to work with, and that the cost per service is less expensice than creative. i don't want to sacrafice my final nail product for cost by no means. i just am not liking creative because the whites don't seem as pure and crisp as young nails. or am i imagining this???

anyone use both brands and see a difference in this????

thanks.

Wise choice to invest in a starter kit first, you will not know if it is easier to work with until you have tried it for yourself. I personally have not put the whites alongside each other to compare. How about doing your own nails some fingers yn and some cnd, see how they compare, ease of rebalancing, colour stability, strength, give both systems a fair chance side by side for 3-6mths, then you will be able to make an informed decision that will be right for you.

 

[angel fingers]

if you are looking for a mega white, young nails xxx white is hard to beat.

 

[bralynstudio]

ok, thanks for the replies. i will be going up to my school on tuesday as they are now using it again so i can try it out. i will keep u posted on how it went.
thanks agsain for all your imput.

 

[Exquisite Touch]

I'm a Young Nails Gal
xxx white is to die for, when you are using the neon colours pick up your bead and roll it onto the nail, it prevents marbling. I had this issue but when i watched greg in action I understood where i was going wrong.
I love the fact I can pick up my bead place in down and it does most of the work for me. No faffing about.
It takes around 90 seconds to set,
Jessicles do you do reverse technique to get your smile lines hun or do it the normal way.
I pick up my pink place it down, holding the finger down pressing the product down to the cuticle area once im happy with that swipe in my smile line then butt my white up to the smile line and then file into shape.
hth

 

[MsJohnson]

I made the switch and am very happy to have done so. I was content with CND while I used it but found YN to work better for me. YN was much easier for me to work with almost like everything in the nail application just clicked and any lifting issues became nonexistent. Just my own personal experience though...

 

[wickednails1]

Although i dont use young nails, i have use cnd for many years.....changing to Creative was the best thing i could do for myself and my clients.

 

[Jessicles]

I'm a Young Nails Gal
xxx white is to die for, when you are using the neon colours pick up your bead and roll it onto the nail, it prevents marbling. I had this issue but when i watched greg in action I understood where i was going wrong.
I love the fact I can pick up my bead place in down and it does most of the work for me. No faffing about.
It takes around 90 seconds to set,
Jessicles do you do reverse technique to get your smile lines hun or do it the normal way.
I pick up my pink place it down, holding the finger down pressing the product down to the cuticle area once im happy with that swipe in my smile line then butt my white up to the smile line and then file into shape.
hth

Yeah, that's what I mean by "placing it so the white is on the bottom", just didn't know how to word it The thing is though...it's such a gooey texture, I end up having to push the bead around a lot more, which is why I think the set time gets me. Don't get me wrong, I make decent nails, I just find myself scrambling and have to work a bit harder at it. But I do it because the colors rock

 

[Exquisite Touch]

they sure do honey, I think my husband is gonna put a ban on me shortly as each order i place i keep ordering more glitters and colours but i do like to give my ladies a choice.

 

[Cathie!]

Wise choice to invest in a starter kit first, you will not know if it is easier to work with until you have tried it for yourself. I personally have not put the whites alongside each other to compare. How about doing your own nails some fingers yn and some cnd, see how they compare, ease of rebalancing, colour stability, strength, give both systems a fair chance side by side for 3-6mths, then you will be able to make an informed decision that will be right for you.

Excellent advice. This is what I did when comparing products, the results are there for you to see with your own eyes! :hug:

 

[geeg]

Excellent advice. This is what I did when comparing products, the results are there for you to see with your own eyes! :hug:

Indeed they are .. remembering that it takes weeks and sometimes months to really see how a product behaves and lasts for your clients. After a few rebalances it all starts to unravel as you see yellowing and service breakdown. Particularly clients who are used to CND do not like seeing these things as they have never seen it before.
"Live and learn" some have to do it the hard way.

 

[mercedes69]

I use both CND and Young Nails.

CND is for my clients...

but I wanted to try Young Nails as the supplier of it is practically 2 minutes walk from my house...so I thought I would have a go.

I use the Young Nails on myself and I might just be the only one who seems to be saying this here...but I am not keen on it....or I wouldn't justify changing to it permanantly other than the convenience of getting hold of products immediately.

I think the powders ( in comparison to CND ) seem grittier or coarser and lighter..... I can't define it but side by side the powder seems cheaper for want of a better word.
In the heat I have to work like the clappers and although I try to do a wetter bead to compensate it seems to set before I can get anywhere!!!
I have to do the same with CND ( I use Retention + ) but I can work better with it in the heat ( just )

The appearance of both CND and YN side by side on nails that have just been enhanced....there doesn't look any difference. The whites look the same to me personally.

But I think it has been mentioned....a few weeks down the line I think CND just looks more 'fresh'.

I don't have lifting problems with either ( except on myself on one hand...but thats down to my application I know ).

The buffing and filing I don't find a great deal of difference. CND might just be a little easier but nothing too significant.

Thats my opinion on them both....but I have to say I only use P&W....I don't use any glitters or anything.

 

[RedAdmiral]

I'm with Mercedes here I used YN for years and did a full switch to CND last Nov and I'm not looking back. If you do a search you'll see several of my replies as this question is being asked alot recently
We needed speed and bought a moxie trial kit and were delighted with it, we all preferred CND white but YN pink as as we were working wetter with YN so got air bubbles in CND (the only thing I can put it down to) I converted, learnt how to use sheer pink and havent looked back.
CND outlasts anything I have ever used, YN does get brittle, slightly dis-colours and sets slower it can go really 'gummy' and all the draining of my brush is such a waste.
The cost difference is minimal, with YN you load your brush, pick up a bead, drain it then work with it thicker, then e-file smooth. pot for pot is roughly the same tho the wasted monomer will cost you, also the added costs of YN UV topcoat or finish gel is another expense.
I use a pipette to decant my monomer and sculpt with my brush all in all I'd say I use less product with CND

The nails you produce will be fabulous but 2 months later you will be soaking them off - which I just wouldnt have to do with CND
I still order the glitters and coloured powders which are amazing :lol: so have fun with these

 

[sparklybits]

Yeah, that's what I mean by "placing it so the white is on the bottom", just didn't know how to word it The thing is though...it's such a gooey texture, I end up having to push the bead around a lot more, which is why I think the set time gets me. Don't get me wrong, I make decent nails, I just find myself scrambling and have to work a bit harder at it. But I do it because the colors rock

Hey honey the problem could also be your liquid to power ratio it sounds as though you have to much liquid on your brush.