My full sets are still taking me three hours and most times i,m disappointed with the end result i seem to get lifting right away at the sides where i can,t remove the cuticle(my model has stubborn cuticles) i dont get the lifting on all the fingers just one or two, i,m just not happy with my time, the nail shape, and she is a nail biter!
Timing for full sets
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nicky's nails
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hey Dionne, which products are you using?
creative have some fabulous products for removing cuticle, i thought my friends was there to stay, with the two or three i'd tried, but using the cuticle remover/eraser has made an amazing difference, its really does loosen it and remove it all from the nail plate, even that really stubborn hard stuff
and im sure that is the reason for the lifting,
as for time , how long have you been doing sets, i have not yet completed my foundation course and its takes me n my friends on the course anywhere between 2hrs 45 mins - 4 hours to do a full set, and ive heard it said many times on this site, the timing dosent matter as long as the end product is good, so dont get too disheartened, as for nail shape, there are some fab tutorials on here, about refining the nails, and also perfect prep (which may help with lifting problem) do a search and you will find loads of help hun
hths xxx
creative have some fabulous products for removing cuticle, i thought my friends was there to stay, with the two or three i'd tried, but using the cuticle remover/eraser has made an amazing difference, its really does loosen it and remove it all from the nail plate, even that really stubborn hard stuff
and im sure that is the reason for the lifting,
as for time , how long have you been doing sets, i have not yet completed my foundation course and its takes me n my friends on the course anywhere between 2hrs 45 mins - 4 hours to do a full set, and ive heard it said many times on this site, the timing dosent matter as long as the end product is good, so dont get too disheartened, as for nail shape, there are some fab tutorials on here, about refining the nails, and also perfect prep (which may help with lifting problem) do a search and you will find loads of help hun
hths xxx
chantell simone
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Oh hun don't be sad
There are some great tutorials on here which I am sure will be of great help to you
Also have you tried contacting your supplier to see if they can help
Keep your chin up
There are some great tutorials on here which I am sure will be of great help to you
Also have you tried contacting your supplier to see if they can help
Keep your chin up
Susie H
Well-Known Member
Well you are never going to get a lift free set if you don't get that cuticle of.
do you use a cuticle removing gel or just the NSI tool?
I have trained with NSI and I have to say that while I consider them to be a first class company I would never consider working on a client without my creative cuticle remover. Its IMO the best on the market and so long as you give it the time to do its job I have never met a cuticle that could stand up to it.
Unfortunately you haven't filled in most of your profile so we cant see how long you have been qualified but for things like shape of nails etc I strongly recomend a 121 session with a good trainer. It might seem like a lot of money but I can honestly say that my first 121 earned his money within the first 15 minutes of our day.
Finally, nail biters are the worst, if you think they leave their acrylics alone, you are sadly mistaken, your work will never look its best with a nail biter, but on the plus side, every other client is a piece of cake after them.
Also your time doesn't tend to get better until you are doing several sets one after the other, some things need to be repeated until they become automatic in order to be quicker. and get in the habit of talking to your clients hands not her face lol
Mrs.Clooney
Positive Geek
I absolutely agree with Susie H.
Firstly, you don't mention in your profile what system you use eg. gel, liquid & powder etc.... This can be helpful to know when responding to your question.
Secondly, you will definitely get lifting if you are placing product on cuticle. Product does not adhere to cuticle which is why it is important that you remove every trace of it. Perhaps you would be better first offering her a moisturizing manicure every few days to slowly work at removing all that stubborn cuticle. Encourage your model to use a good cuticle cream and cuticle oil at least 3 times daily.
Thirdly, as Susie H mentioned, habitual biters find the habit hard to break and short bitten nails can be a challenge to even the most experienced of nail techs.
Don't fret about timing although easier said than done. Concentrate on perfecting your skills first before trying to shorten your timings. If you shorten your times whilst still applying product to cuticles, you will have achieved nothing!
HTH & Good luck. x
I know how you feel mate!
I am the same with timings. :irked:
I really want to get my times down but I agree that the more you do the quicker you will get.
My issue is that when I etll someone that I am taking about 3 hours for a set, they kind of urn away screaming! lol
I would love to get a p/t job in a salon to get the volume of people I need to get quicker.
Good luck with the lifting - I have to agree that it sounds like the prep and cuticle removal sounds like the issue. :hug:
x
I am the same with timings. :irked:
I really want to get my times down but I agree that the more you do the quicker you will get.
My issue is that when I etll someone that I am taking about 3 hours for a set, they kind of urn away screaming! lol
I would love to get a p/t job in a salon to get the volume of people I need to get quicker.
Good luck with the lifting - I have to agree that it sounds like the prep and cuticle removal sounds like the issue. :hug:
x
angel fingers
Well-Known Member
great progress, now your quality is there, your timings will gradually reduce with the more practice you get.
well done for sticking with it.
Emmaejc23
Active Member
I am soooo glad i'm not the only one who has this problem! I tend to rely on my nail trainer hand for practise but of course it's no substitute for the real thing - do people really not have 3 hours to spend on themselves anymore?
kimi1101
Well-Known Member
I agree, Long gone are the days where people would love to spend hours in the salon...I do hair but I had someone call today and ask if I could do a tint regrowth and blow dry in one hour, I would usually say an hour and a half at the least! I said that it would be between an hour and a quarter and an hour and a half and she was okay with that....then in she walked with the longest thickest curliest hair! Eek!
It's a shame people don't have the time to slow down and enjoy just sitting for a while...
It's a shame people don't have the time to slow down and enjoy just sitting for a while...
cro-mari
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I was slow at first. And the more I was worrying, the more I was annoyed and the slower I was :irked: Now I'm around 1 - 1,15 h to a full set (LP or gel) and 45 min - 1 hour to rebalance. Of course, more if there's some nail art.
Here's what helped me:
1. Got myself Gigi's Nailclass, read it a million times and thought things through, visualised every word, and then worked myself through it when working. So I realised that I was slow because I was fiddling endlessly and losing time!
2. Doing it Gigi's way also made me better. Of course, I wasn't miraculously healed by that book instantly, but in time, I did :green: - I adopted good habits when preparing, and not to mention applying (building the nail with the brush, not the file) and finnishing was so much easier and faster, and nails better looking. Good habits are really time saving
3. Speed came with experience. Also meaning - with confidence. And again, confidence came with - experience. It's like a closed circle :green: Just give yourself time and put your heart in it. It will come :hug:
Here's what helped me:
1. Got myself Gigi's Nailclass, read it a million times and thought things through, visualised every word, and then worked myself through it when working. So I realised that I was slow because I was fiddling endlessly and losing time!
2. Doing it Gigi's way also made me better. Of course, I wasn't miraculously healed by that book instantly, but in time, I did :green: - I adopted good habits when preparing, and not to mention applying (building the nail with the brush, not the file) and finnishing was so much easier and faster, and nails better looking. Good habits are really time saving
3. Speed came with experience. Also meaning - with confidence. And again, confidence came with - experience. It's like a closed circle :green: Just give yourself time and put your heart in it. It will come :hug:
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