To stick with nsi or not (lifting)?

[GemBobble]

im a self employed nail technician and i use all the nsi products. I've been self employed for about 2 months now, the main problem is a few of the nails keep lifting .. it starts at the sides near the cuticle and then those 2 sides meet in the middle of the nail and it then sometimes lifts to where the nail tip is stuck. Im doing all prep correctly ( i think lol ) i thought that lifting was due to hands being in contact with water ??
i also dont know if i should stick with using nsi or change to a different product brand all together ??
does anybody else have this problem ?? anybody got any adviceee ??
thanksss

 

[angel fingers]

lifting is generally down ton insuficient prep or product making contact with the surrounding skin.
no product will solve these problems as it is down to ntechnique. many use nsi with no troubles.
try looking in our tutorial section [via navigation, top left of page] there should be some help there for you. and consider a one to one session with your educator to resolve your difficulties.

 

[GemBobble]

i've started using the primer twice on the nail i have no idea if that will help or not lol i qualified over a year ago and i've only just landed myself in a job lol !! my first set of nails i did when i became self employed were on the tanning shop owner where i rent my table ! thank god i would of been a bag of nerves if it was on someone else !
i manage to do my own nails and as im right handed the nails on the right hand do tend to lift as i do get product on the cuticle. I did a set of nails yesterday and i left a really small gap from the acrylic and the cuticle !! hopefully that will work ??
she also had rounded tips !! that was the first time i had ever done a set like that lol we didnt really get shown how to do them at college, but i thought i did a pretty good job
for the prep i push the cuticle back, etch the nail then dust off the excess, dab on the dehydration liquid with a cotton wool circle, stick the tip on, put the primer on the nail bed only, then cut the tips down, file them and then put on the 2nd layer of primer

 

[angel fingers]

we all have teething troubles when we first start in the industry and it can really knock your confidence if you dont get help.

beeing in at the deep end in a salon is a lot of pressure when you are new, but its that experience that will help you progress.

i always use a cuticle remover liquid when i prep for a full set and give the nail a really thorough clean with a cuticle tool. it really isnt enough simply to push back as any trace of dead cells on the nail can effect their adhesion.
incidentally what you are pushing back is correctly called eponichium, cuticle is the dead cells that are shed onto the nail as it grows through.
dont use 2 coats of primer as it wont help and may damage and you only need to remove the shine with nothing rougher than a 180 grit file

as you say you are getting lifting on your own right hand i would think that alongside your prep problem, you are probably getting skin to product contact too. you will be much less accurate in the product placement when using your non dominant hand to do it.

 

[GemBobble]

i've never even thought of buying a cuticle remover !! im going to buy some off the internet right now lol. Yeah it does knock my confidence a bit, yesterday when i did a set of nails that must of been the best prep i have done so far !! which is the best cuticle remover to use ??
i also show people my left hand when they ask to see my nails lol im getting used to doing my right hand now, but i still get it on the cuticle and on my skin practice makes perfect though !!

 

[angel fingers]

i rate equally hive cuticle remover and creative cuticle remover[which i think may now be called cuticle away?]

 

[Sparklepink]

just to add to what Susan has said....

when prepping ... are you just pushing the cuticle back... and not removing the non living tissue.??
what are you using for this.... a really good cuticle tool like a pro pusher or a curette (sp?) can really help with your cuticle prep

personally i do dry prep as thats what works with my system... others using different systems use cuticle remover as its what works for their system

it could also be your product placement in zone 3 (cuticle are) if you arent firm enough with your product (l&p) or worked it into the nail (gel) or even that the product is too close too or on the skin that is causing your lifting problems

a work shop class with your educator would really give you a boost and give you a gentle push in the right direction

Jess x

ps... just re read susans post.... think its getting late and i need my bed as i more or less just siad what she did....lol... great minds

 

[DEBI-DEE]

I use 2 systems and one of them is NSI. I dont have any lifting issues with it. There is no need to use primer twice. Also, if you are using NSI tips, you can take the primer over the tips too. As said above, make sure you remove all the non-livng tissue from the nail plate as well as gently pushing back the eponychium. You could try using vanish cuticle disolve when prepping.

 

[angelnailz]

Hi there

Did you train with NSI? Reason I ask is that when I did my NSI course cuticle dissolve was included in the kit as was the training in how/when to apply as part of the systems recommended prep. I think whatever your chosen product, product knowledge is essential and it even if you did train with NSI originally it may be really helpful to perhaps do a wee refresher course or one to one to really iron out any problems and really get to know the products well.

:hug:

xxx

 

[marion]

some more information about your training may help us direct you in the right direction.

I have used NSI for 7 yearrs and rarely get lifting.

Did you get a job as a nail tech?

 

[Bagpuss]

ohh the money i wasted when i first started out changing from one product to another because of what i thought was the products fault....

I agree with the above posters....go through your prep routine as its the most likely thing to be causing the lifting. x

 

[Nailsinlondon1]

Check this little article out, it should help you a bit xxxx

http://www.salongeek.com/nail-application/3007-perfect-preparation.html
:up:

 

[GemBobble]

thank you for your help
i trained at college, i did the btec in beauty therapy sciences
we used the salon system ?? ( i think ) products whilst training in college ( eurghh hated that brand ) but the group from the year before got to train with nsi ... which i dont really understand ? as we were the ones who were paying for the kits not the college .. i would of rather payed that little bit more for quality ! and also whilst being at college we had a change of nail tutor 1/4 of the way through the college year, and we got told different things and told we were filing wrong ect .... and we just basically did what we wanted in lesson, we didnt have a set plan for the lesson
i dont use the nsi tips.. where i work theres a sally's just right around the corner so i buy tips, acetone ect .. from there !
i bought the edge cuticle remover yesterday, just waiting for it to be delivered and fingers crossed it works

 

[NSINAILS]

Hi there

Did you train with NSI? Reason I ask is that when I did my NSI course cuticle dissolve was included in the kit as was the training in how/when to apply as part of the systems recommended prep. I think whatever your chosen product, product knowledge is essential and it even if you did train with NSI originally it may be really helpful to perhaps do a wee refresher course or one to one to really iron out any problems and really get to know the products well.

:hug:

xxx

Thanks AngelNailz. Yes, NSI has a cuticle remover, Vanish Cuticle Dissolve, that is included with all training kits. As you all know, it is essential to remove all non-living tissue from the nail plate to avoid lifting. A cuticle remover will help do that.

GemBobble, I'll PM you with a link to an NSI video just on prep. That should give you a good idea if you are missing any steps.