Walmart nails

[Vanilla Pod]

i just did a client who had her nails done at walmart in florida, they seemed awfully difficult to remove (was gonna soak off), then just filed but took ages with a 100 grit, would there be an example of nss

 

[Bev Rose]

From my experience of MMA, if this is what you are wondering, is the nails are very, very hard to file & look opaque & yellowy, When filing, the smell is sort of a 'fishy' smell. Not nice. Total nightmare to soak off too.

 

[Vanilla Pod]

Yeah probably, cos never come across this before, managed in the end, just nightmare really x

 

[sparklybits]

Yeah probably, cos never come across this before, managed in the end, just nightmare really x

Hi Honey

Yep MMA for sure I have seen the salon in the walmart in Kissimmiee and also removed these nails in the last few weeks from a few ladies that had them done there.

These ladies are now attending my salon to have thier nails done Using Young Nails with no mma or acid base primer. We only use protine bond which is much kinder to the natural nail.:hug:

 

[geeg]

Hi Honey

Yep MMA for sure I have seen the salon in the walmart in Kissimmiee and also removed these nails in the last few weeks from a few ladies that had them done there.

These ladies are now attending my salon to have thier nails done Using Young Nails with no mma or acid base primer. We only use protine bond which is much kinder to the natural nail.:hug:

There is no way to tell if a product contains MMA unless it is tested, so nothing is for sure.

Why are there so many Scottish ladies in Kissimmee and all going to Walmart I wonder? :lol:

There are NO branded lines that contain MMA and in fact nearly all brands use an acid free primer so I'm sure after what they have had, any decent system would be a bonus. Better still to use no primer at all if you can. With a Keratin bonding liquid monomer such as CND Retention+, there is no need to use Primer of any variety which is another plus for both the nails and the technicians who use it.

 

[sparklybits]

There is no way to tell if a product contains MMA unless it is tested, so nothing is for sure.

Why are there so many Scottish ladies in Kissimmee and all going to Walmart I wonder? :lol:

There are NO branded lines that contain MMA and in fact nearly all brands use an acid free primer so I'm sure after what they have had, any decent system would be a bonus. Better still to use no primer at all if you can. With a Keratin bonding liquid monomer such as CND Retention+, there is no need to use Primer of any variety which is another plus for both the nails and the technicians who use it.

:lol: Not all us Scottish Ladies shop in walmart it is just that these ladies cant believe the price of the nails in the US walmart. Therefore they have them done.

I personally only let a select few other than myself touch my nails.

 

[Vanilla Pod]

here here x

 

[Eni]

Hi Geeg (and everyone),

After living in Florida for over 12 years I can tell you that the NSS are everblooming, especially in Central and South Florida....and yes, its about the price. (of course).

A friend of mine had her nails done at one of these places and came to me to help cos her "planks" were giving her grief. After about 45 minutes of grinding with a 180grit by hand, I was able to soak them off using straight acetone in the tinfoil method (took another 45 to get them back to "normal"). Aside from the rings of fire, the smell whilst grinding away was awful....I was sure it was MMA (reminded me of the stuff that the cheapie salons in NYC used in the 80's - damn I'm old).

I suspect that there are a lot, and I do mean a lot, of NSS using MMA products still in the USA. IF you walk into one they all use non labelled powders. I went into a "good" salon (Red Door if you must know, in South Florida) for a massage and a pedicure and asked the lady there about it and we had a long discussion about the proliferation of NSS and that they *are* using MMA still but try to prove it....the "authorities" don't really have the time to check as they should.

I do remember about four years ago a big expose in the local paper (can't remember which one, either PB Post or Sun Sentinel) about the nail bars in South Florida and it was horrifying.

I never *ever* want to smell that smell again...eewwwwww

 

[geeg]

Hi Geeg (and everyone),

After living in Florida for over 12 years I can tell you that the NSS are everblooming, especially in Central and South Florida....and yes, its about the price. (of course).

A friend of mine had her nails done at one of these places and came to me to help cos her "planks" were giving her grief. After about 45 minutes of grinding with a 180grit by hand, I was able to soak them off using straight acetone in the tinfoil method (took another 45 to get them back to "normal"). Aside from the rings of fire, the smell whilst grinding away was awful....I was sure it was MMA (reminded me of the stuff that the cheapie salons in NYC used in the 80's - damn I'm old).

I suspect that there are a lot, and I do mean a lot, of NSS using MMA products still in the USA. IF you walk into one they all use non labelled powders. I went into a "good" salon (Red Door if you must know, in South Florida) for a massage and a pedicure and asked the lady there about it and we had a long discussion about the proliferation of NSS and that they *are* using MMA still but try to prove it....the "authorities" don't really have the time to check as they should.

I do remember about four years ago a big expose in the local paper (can't remember which one, either PB Post or Sun Sentinel) about the nail bars in South Florida and it was horrifying.

I never *ever* want to smell that smell again...eewwwwww

From my experience of visiting Florida every year for more than 45 years (I have family living there), I know that all you say is true and I welcome your informed post, but what I am pointing out is that we all mustn't assume that everything is MMA just because it is hard and has a strong odour. It very well may be MMA but you can't claim that it is for sure unless the product is chemically tested. You may know and I may know by feel and smell and our experience but most nail techs just assume that because a nail bar is cheap and fast it uses MMA and we can't make that blanket assumption.

The other assumption everyone makes (which I think is prejudicial and unfair and insulting) is that all discount salons are non standard salons and are run by Chinese!! In my experience these places are run by an entire ethnic mix of folks including your average Brit (whatever that is :lol. It is wrong to assume that because people look oriental they are Chinese, and whenever I see this here on the site I edit the post.

Assumption shows ignorance and peeps should be careful of what they say in my opinion.

 

[Eni]

Hi Geeg,

Assume is bad in any field. I think that a lot of the newer techs are blessed/cursed because they don't know what it used to be like.

Anyone making the assumption that ALL NSS (or even discount salons) use MMA is someone who really hasn't kept up to date with happenings in the biz, and ultimately, in a perfect world, that moniker would be as antiquated as my baby shoes.

However, the truth that it is quite prevalent in NSS, especially in the US (where I hate to say this, but they pass laws and don't necessarily enforce them) that its still out there and it makes everyone look bad. The fact that I ran across it two years ago gave me enough of a scare to think that its still being used in light of the microscope salons were under at that time in South Florida.

Now, the discount salons (and yes there is a distinction that I presumed people here would be aware of) are using CND and NSI products - two that were in my old neighbourhood used CND alone. The product was fine, the work was sloppy but then again, a lot of the techs in these particular places (discount salons using CND and/or NSI) were what I guessed were recent beauty college graduates.

I used a discount salon for mani/pedis monthly and got to be mates with the girls there and it was good for all....One of the newbies asked if she could give me a set, discounted, I said go for it. I coached the girl through it (LOL) and she did a fab job, and just needed to know it was OK to take her time. The boss was not amused cos it took a longer amount of time. When I explained to her that I was a trained, non working tech, she offered *me* a job to train her newbie techs. I said no thank you, but it was a good boost for the ego for both the newbie and myself. And FWIW, most of the girls, and guys in there spoke in Spanish. (Well it was South Florida after all LOL)

Again, the responsiblity lies equally with the client, its their body and they have to speak up and ask questions (be it nails, hair, wax, etc) and with the salon, who should have their products out in the open, and offer information before being asked as part of a consultation.

I'm old school, what can I say?


Nancy