Whos Watching Dispatches????

[number1kitty]

If you are watching Dispatches what are your views?

Obviously creams cannot reverse the signs of aging, however they can help PREVENT ageing!

Unless of course the creams are peeling back layers of the epidermis to help smooth out wrinkles and open pores.

What are your views? And how do you think it will effect customers views?

Kate

 

[Impulse1976]

Hiya, i have taped it cos Monday night is soap night - how sad eh?
Just making a cup of hot chocolate and going to bed to watch it.

 

[number1kitty]

haha bless ya!!!

Well its making over the counter big name companies look stoooopid! woohoo!

Maybe now those clients will realise we don't talk poo, and we are highly trained more so than those that work in Boots! And we sell products without lying, or giving false info and we are properly trained in the skincare range as well as skin function!

Enjoy your hot chocolate, I want one now lol!!

Kate x

 

[redbeauty]

Oh, I missed that!....what were they on about?...I'm up for anything that will stop wrinkles?....:green:

 

[number1kitty]

They were talking about the false claims that beauty products use in order to sell to the general and often uninformed public!

They looked at Olay pentapeptides, Loreal regenerist, Simple, Boots NO7 protect and Perfect and Diors 60/40 cream.

they scanned 5 womens faces for each product test. And at the end of it most womens wrinkles were worse.

They tackled the companies and asked why they havent done clinical trials etc and how they can claim the products do what they dont when they actually cant!

An example is Vitamin A. If you apply a cream with vitamin A then it thins the skin and also causes birth defects etc. However when medicaly supplied for skin problems it works, under the watch of dermatologists etc. However the skin care companies claim they have Vitamin A in their products.

They did pick up on the fact that this is a palmitate (Vit A was banned about 10 years ago when people had problems with rocs retin-A cream) and is in such small quantities it dosnt have any effect on the skin at all!

It also showed the women at the counters making excruciating false claims about the products and basically talking a lot of bull. They had no idea how the skin works and the actual effects the creams and their ingredients work.

Hopefully this will prove to clients that they should come to qualified therapists to discuss their skin needs as we didnt study at college for a couple of years for nothing!!!

Kate x

 

[Impulse1976]

It made them look really silly didnt it?
I love watching programmes like this.

 

[Amethyst_Angel]

Oooh I'm really miffed I missed that! :irked:

I do think it's great that the Over The Counter goops and gunks are being found to be flawed! Hopefully it will make people realise that they should be going to a *professional* and getting *professional* products rather than taking advice from someone that is basically just a glorified salesperson (on the beauty counters).

YAY! :green:

 

['chelle]

This was a fantastic programme!

To be honest I have very little sympathy for women that believe the hype of these anti-ageing creams. If they are gullible enough to be parted with great amounts of money on the basis of the outrageous claims made by the manufacturers then more fool them.

Havng said that, I was still really pleased to see these products being shown in their true light.

 

[min11]

This was a fantastic programme!

To be honest I have very little sympathy for women that believe the hype of these anti-ageing creams. If they are gullible enough to be parted with great amounts of money on the basis of the outrageous claims made by the manufacturers then more fool them.

Havng said that, I was still really pleased to see these products being shown in their true light.

Gullible? How about taking pride in how they look, all they can afford, don't have time to go to a professional or afford to buy the products recomended on top of the facial appointment. Been guilty of all of those and erm, also gullible by the sound of it!

:hug::hug:

 

[number1kitty]

I think we have all fallen for it at some point. Well now the light has been shed and I hope people realise that no cream can work miracles!

If you missed it go to the channel 4 website where I think you can watch it on demand.

Kate x

 

[Marlise]

Hi,

Just came across this thread.

I missed the programme on Monday, but from the sound of things, I seem to be wasting my money :lol:

I've been using Olay since I was 12 years old and is the only cream that doesn't make me break out into spots.

If you are saying OTC creams are poo, what do you recommend then ??


Marlise

 

[number1kitty]

I dont think its a case that over the counter/off the shelf products are poo, its a more a case of their highly far fetched claims that they cannot back up. It also was showing how the counter girls didnt know anything about the function of the skin.

Everyones skins different, there are a few creams out there that can help the skin by smoothing the appearence of open pores, wrinkles or helping alleviate acne etc. Every ones individual and without looking at a clients skin then its hard to say whats best for them to use.

A £2 cream from superdrug can do just the same as a cream from dior for £200. I think that was more the point they were making.

These companies have millions to spend on advertising to their consumer and are making highly unlikly claims and consumers fall for it because if Dior says a cream can regenerate stem cell renewal, why would any normal consumer have reason to doubt them!!

If your happy with Olay and it works for you, why change??? Its a case of dont expect miracles from these creams.

I never change my clients onto my skincare ranges unless they have a specific need to, and sometimes if my range cannot or will not be able to make a difference I wont sell to my client and instead reccomend an alternative product that I beleive will help. Also if my clients happy using a £2 cleanser, toner or moisturiser from boots and they have perfect skin, I wont get them to change.

We all know that moisturisers create a barrier on the skin to prevent, sun damage, wind damage, pollution etc anyway so I dont think it matters on the actual cost!

Kate x

 

[fanella]

I 100% agree about the instant experts behind the counters and have argued against them for years,but don't we all use and sell these products at our salons in one form or another, or are most of you making your own prescriptive formulations for each client?

 

[number1kitty]

Yes we do sell 'anti-ageing' creams etc but do we sit their and promise our clients the world?

If a client comes to a beauty therapist with, acne, ageing or pigmentation etc, then we are taught to give adequate advice and hopefully a solution for the problem. Whilst we also cannot make a client instantly look 10 years younger by selling them a pot of cream, we do give honest advice about what the client should expect from the product we sell them. we can also 'Prescribe' a course of treatments that the client should undertake for optimum results.

I know there are therapists out there that probably also stretch the truth to achieve sales etc, but the majority of us are honest and knowledgable in our field.

If I get a client I really cannot help, or feel they would get better results having another treatment at another salon or by using another brand I dont sell then I send them to my rivals! No one skincare range is really going to help every skin type, and most salons cannot afford to offer every treatment on the market.

So whilst I sell moisturisers - I dont make false claims. I also use products that have complete clinical trials or I have had results with on other clients.

I do skin peeling and Microdermabrasion too, but in some cases there is no telling what results my clients will get. In this case I tell them straight and let them decide if they want to spend the money at the chance the improvement may only be slight.

Honesty is always the best policy, and whilst I have sent a hell of a lot of clients to rival salons, they still come back to me for other treatments and honest advice. It also means I have an excellent rapport with the other salons in the area as they know I dont bad mouth them and instead send clients to them. They also do the same especially when they cant fit in last minute appointments.

Kate