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Hi sorry to but in this thread but it is illegal for a beauty therapist to inject a prescription only medicine in the UK. If a client has an anaphylactic reaction does the course also train you to inject adrenaline? Who would insure you and where would you get the Botox from? eBay? Sorry please think carefully I am a registered nurse practitioner and an independent prescriber and this subject comes up again and again on our courses but it's not legal in the uk. We do have some advanced healthcare assistants in the NHS who have been trained to administer flu jabs in some areas but a doctor or advanced nurse must be on the premises at all times for complications and to supervise the healthcare assistant. Have a look on the medicines regulatory website the MHRA for latest Botox guidelines in uk. It's also illegal to advertise the word Botox. Hope this helps.
 
I looked into this myself and decided against it, because I also felt that 1 day isnt enough training with a medical background, I would not be happy unless I knew everying there was to know about muscles in the face, and who is going to supply you with botox when you have finished training because the training school doesnt, you would need to get a doctor to prescribe it for you, and I wouldnt even think of getting it off the internet, as you really dont know what your getting. It doesnt bear thinking about and not worth the risk.
 
Hi sorry to but in this thread but it is illegal for a beauty therapist to inject a prescription only medicine in the UK. If a client has an anaphylactic reaction does the course also train you to inject adrenaline? Who would insure you and where would you get the Botox from? eBay? Sorry please think carefully I am a registered nurse practitioner and an independent prescriber and this subject comes up again and again on our courses but it's not legal in the uk. We do have some advanced healthcare assistants in the NHS who have been trained to administer flu jabs in some areas but a doctor or advanced nurse must be on the premises at all times for complications and to supervise the healthcare assistant. Have a look on the medicines regulatory website the MHRA for latest Botox guidelines in uk. It's also illegal to advertise the word Botox. Hope this helps.

Sorry to jump on this thread, but your are so misimformed. Have you ever contacted MHRA or the NMC to see whether it is actually illegal, have you actually spoken to someone rather than mis-interpret a website? Do you realise that if we were injecting illegally we could be jailed!

There is an association now set up for therapists which is there to support and protect us from the likes of you who aire (incorrectly) your views. And just to confirm that, yes they do courses in BLS and anaphylactic management as part of their pre-requisite. They also dont train medics as they believe that all the problems related to bad practice and bad treatments stem from them... and so do I.

Rant over!
 
I would love to administer botox, however I wouldn't feel comfortable doing this without at least a nursing degree, but that's me. I think it depends on the person if your comfortable doing it and feel you know what you're doing, are insurance etc then i don't see what the problem is!
 
Hi botoxgirl, can I say how misinformed you are and soooo rude! You need to check your facts and the law for people who are non medical administering a prescription only medicine. I will not bore you with all my qualification ands extensive CV on these matters other than say to you, go ahead do it and see what happens if you are so sure!

I am extremely knowledgeable on this matter and can reply to a thread on here however I do not expect to be spoken to in such a rude manner! With that attitude I would wonder how professional you would be administering Botox? Let me know if you get round to doing it please :)
 
I read these threads as I find them extremely interesting, not that I wish to do Botox!

Then it turns into another bicker.

Yawn
 
Check with the mhra as legally the person prescribing the Botox must be in the same room as the client. Why would a person as a prescriber need a "middle" person to then give the ok to for the Botox to be injected into.

However there are misinformed individuals out there who will carry out such treatments - make a balls up & give the rest of us a bad name.
 
Hello Amy,

Thank you for putting across so well the case for bt's being able to provide treatments such as botox with the adequate training.

I am looking to do a nvq level 3 atonomy and physiology with the intentions to study with skintechniques.

I come from a university educated background, although when I turned 25 I trained in eyelash extensions and now have my own salon which I have built up and is now employing two others. My mother is a nurse practioner who has a prescribing course amongst many other specialist degrees and believes I am very capable of learning this practice (with additional learning in other areas) and going ahead with the course.

May I ask who it is who insures you, as there is alot of speculation on what the terms and conditions are for you to obtain such insurances as I would like to look it up for myself.

Many thanks again on behalf on the therapists who are interested in pursuing this career and are encouraged by your words!

Best Rebecca X



QUOTE="AmyJG, post: 1475898, member: 59377"]Hi geeks,

I have done the Botox and Filler course at the college mentioned.
Basically they only train therapists with a high knowledge of anatomy and physiology.
Beauty therapists train extremely hard, especially to gain qualifications such as the ones that I have, CIDESCO, ITEC, SHAASP, CIBTAC and I have also done a nutrition diploma. If trained to a high level, the knowledge gained with respect to the anatomy of the body, especially the face, it is the equivalent to that of a nurse. Guinot, for example uses very complex products and of course has the galvanic machine AKA - The Hydradermie Facial. Why on earth would they let therapists use this machine if they were not trained in anatomy and physiology and how to treat galvanic burns etc etc. They wouldn't.

My feelings are they nobody can slate a profession as a whole or say that doctors are the only ones that can preform botox because I know for a fact that some doctors who I have had experience with no bugger all! He actually dismissed a malignant melanoma until I insisted that my friend see a specialist.

So my point being is that this whole persona on beauty therapist being "dumb and blonde" as it were must stop because some are highly intelligent and as far as I'm concerned I will go to someone for treatments such as botox who I know can do it well and has great knowledge of the product. Yes, of courses there are people out there who don't know but then slate them as an individual.

If you have the grounding, just as I did to then go into the profession of becoming a Botox technician then a 1 day course is good enough. You should already know the face (bones, muscles, nerves etc) - you are learning what Botox is, how to administer it and the admin that goes with it. You have everything tought to you (what could go wrong, what to do etc as well) - if you cannot be adult enough to listen, take it all in and then do your own revision once the course is done then well, you don't deserve to be doing Botox at all. It is a life skill and a professional career that we ultimately choose, so I should hope that a school leaver who has done a combined hair and beauty course who is not sure what he/she wants to do then goes into Botox, it just isn't done.

The course is expensive! Not to be taken lightly! So if beauty therapists want to further their knowledge in the cosmetic industry then let us. It doesn't matter what letters you have after your name, it doesn't make you know any more than someone else who has the same.
If you go to someone who hasn't got the right training etc then by all means say something or do something - THEY are giving us (beauty therapists or nurses or doctors) a bad name. But you cannot say that beauty therapists can't do Botox unless you can prove otherwise. It's like me saying that my brother cannot fix my car even though he is a basic mechanic because he doesn't work for Audi when he is the BEST I know and I trust him. It's all speculation and scrutiny of therapists because there is money to be made if the profession is done properly.

I know I am going on but this site is a forum and we are here to help one another regardless of our profession, so please stop putting therapists down when it comes to Botox. I (as an individual) want to make it more of a treatment to my clients and if they want the topical anaesthetic which takes up to 30minutes to work then that is what I will do to make the experience better for them. Knowledge is power and if someone is succeeding in what they do then congratulate then because they are obviously doing something right.

PS- And paying £100p/m insurance is not a light decision either[/QUOTE]
 
The posts you're referring to are from 2012 so you may not get an answer.

Vic x
 
Oh dear this sounds extremely dodgy to me!!!! Beauty therapists doing botox!!! Thank god the standards here dont allow this. There is NO way id go to a beauty therapist with that sort of training for botox or fillers no no no no no!!!
 
Oh dear this sounds extremely dodgy to me!!!! Beauty therapists doing botox!!! Thank god the standards here dont allow this. There is NO way id go to a beauty therapist with that sort of training for botox or fillers no no no no no!!!
I'm with you on this. As far as I know, this is no longer allowed. Beauty therapists can't practice botox.

Vic x
 

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