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Reide

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Hey. I was wondering what are you best red head and copper formulas in wella? I have noticed some are a little wishy washy.
 
I suppose it really comes down to knowing your colour wheel when placing the colour on, and whether you're trying to lift the hair as well. For a more toned down level 7 red/auburn on a base 2-5, like what Kendall Jenner had, 7/43 + 12% then glossing after with relights /34 is great. For something more like a vibrant copper on a base 6, 99/44 + 88/43 with 12% is also great. But in general with Koleston, the /34s and the /43s are great in 7 and up, and with the double bases if you want extra vibrancy in 7 and up also which is why I like to mix them. Don't be afraid to also make use of the special mix tones as they are great for reds/coppers. For Colour Touch the /43s definitely pack a punch but usually I end up using the 4% emulsion to make sure its an even vibrance. Which shades are you finding wishy washy as usually it may just be the formula needs tweaking a little?
 
@Reide wella is a great choice for red copper tones. Maybe the 7/34 is not strong enough..Sobi did mix 7/45 and 8/31 to get something similar.
 
There are endless possibilities with wella. My go to for a nice rich red was always 66/46.
If you want bright then 8/45 + 6/45 are like pillar box.
For a deeper cherry cola type red then 4/75 + 5/41.
For a violet red 55/65 every time! And for extra brightness add in a few grams of 10/0.
As for coppers you've got 7/43 which is my favourite. But for a more red copper there's 66/44.
There's 7/37 + 8/41 which is a lovely more natural auburn.
9/04 + 7/37 very natural looking kind of like Nicole Kidman colour.

7/47 + 7/73 very rich chestnut sort of colour.

The list goes on really.
 
@ronray
55/65 is a great violett i totally agree,
b.t.w do you still know the 66/46? It was a very nice red but it isnt on the color chart anymore. Any tecommondations how to get it back? Used magma /L and /65 with a bit kf /47 to get something similar... for slices...
I did once mix the 8/41 with an 8/3 and 8/0 worked too.
What i also loved for darker tones is to mix the 5/37 with something like an 77/46...
 
I suppose it really comes down to knowing your colour wheel when placing the colour on, and whether you're trying to lift the hair as well. For a more toned down level 7 red/auburn on a base 2-5, like what Kendall Jenner had, 7/43 + 12% then glossing after with relights /34 is great. For something more like a vibrant copper on a base 6, 99/44 + 88/43 with 12% is also great. But in general with Koleston, the /34s and the /43s are great in 7 and up, and with the double bases if you want extra vibrancy in 7 and up also which is why I like to mix them. Don't be afraid to also make use of the special mix tones as they are great for reds/coppers. For Colour Touch the /43s definitely pack a punch but usually I end up using the 4% emulsion to make sure its an even vibrance. Which shades are you finding wishy washy as usually it may just be the formula needs tweaking a little?
You'd use 12%? I'm still in training (final year) but I was wondering if that was because of extra lift? Or is there another reason?

One thing in salon I have noticed with blondes (bleached foils for instance) is that their ends sometimes have an almost greeny version of copper? It lacks vibrancy. So I've noticed people tend to put something like a direct dye over it to get the vibrancy. But realistically that isnt optimal. This even happened to my hair a while back. I cant find a picture of it but it was like the red pigments just washed out and left the gold but it was murkey. I saw it in salon last night as well. And most the time when we want a more opaic copper it never happens. My gut instinct is to do something like 9/73 depending on vibrancy needed to fill the hair to give the hair something to grab however I am not confident with that.

I am very interested in specialising in coppers as I love red hair but I want to make sure when I am qualified I am set up well <333
 
@ronray

b.t.w do you still know the 66/46? It was a very nice red but it isnt on the color chart anymore. Any tecommondations how to get it back? Used magma /L and /65 with a bit kf /47
I feel like we still order it. I'm not in salon today but I'll have a look tomorrow. I havent seen magma in a long time but I am in Australia.

There are endless possibilities with wella. My go to for a nice rich red was always 66/46.
If you want bright then 8/45 + 6/45 are like pillar box.
For a deeper cherry cola type red then 4/75 + 5/41.
For a violet red 55/65 every time! And for extra brightness add in a few grams of 10/0.
As for coppers you've got 7/43 which is my favourite. But for a more red copper there's 66/44.
There's 7/37 + 8/41 which is a lovely more natural auburn.
9/04 + 7/37 very natural looking kind of like Nicole Kidman colour.

7/47 + 7/73 very rich chestnut sort of colour.

The list goes on really.
I would love to see some examples of the colours if possible

I suppose it really comes down to knowing your colour wheel when placing the colour on, and whether you're trying to lift the hair as well. For a more toned down level 7 red/auburn on a base 2-5, like what Kendall Jenner had, 7/43 + 12% then glossing after with relights /34 is great. For something more like a vibrant copper on a base 6, 99/44 + 88/43 with 12% is also great. But in general with Koleston, the /34s and the /43s are great in 7 and up, and with the double bases if you want extra vibrancy in 7 and up also which is why I like to mix them. Don't be afraid to also make use of the special mix tones as they are great for reds/coppers. For Colour Touch the /43s definitely pack a punch but usually I end up using the 4% emulsion to make sure its an even vibrance. Which shades are you finding wishy washy as usually it may just be the formula needs tweaking a little?
I know when we did my hair in march last year we used 8/43 and 7/34 if I recall. My ends were foiled so the colour was wichy washy but the roots lacked satuarion as well. Our colour educator from wella came in to help fix it. Last nights client was also blond foils. The toner copper over it was wishy washy. we did my toner yesterday and it was more vibrant but we usually have to add other brands such as Evo, to get the pop.
 
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