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Hi Salon Geeks,

I bought CCO from ebay, just wondering if anyone else has tried this?

It was cheap, probably hence my complaint! I just wanted something basic to start with but think I wasted my money. Guess I just wanted to check it's not in my application. I followed manufacturing instructions;
Thin base-cure 30sec
Thin colour-cure 2mins
2nd thin colour-cure 2mins
Thin top-cure 2mins
Capping free edge each layer and correct prep.
 
CCO isn't a pro brand, like blue sky etc. So I don't think you'll hear anything great about it on here, they try not to promote those kind of products! Sorry I'm not much help but just a heads up xx
 
Hi Salon Geeks,

I bought CCO from ebay, just wondering if anyone else has tried this?

It was cheap, probably hence my complaint! I just wanted something basic to start with but think I wasted my money. Guess I just wanted to check it's not in my application. I followed manufacturing instructions;
Thin base-cure 30sec
Thin colour-cure 2mins
2nd thin colour-cure 2mins
Thin top-cure 2mins
Capping free edge each layer and correct prep.


Sorry I liked this when I was meant to quote it [emoji15]

Anyhow I think you've answered your own question in regards to your second line IT WAS CHEAP!

CCO is not a professional product and therefore imo will not provide a professional service ...if you buy this from eBay you are not buying from a professional reputable supplier therefore God forbid your client has a reaction to it as you don't actually know the real account of what's in it I'm sure your insurance company won't cover you ...start as you mean to go on don't cut corners or costs you will ending up paying more in the end x
 
Thanks ladies. Don't suppose you have any thoughts on IBD?
 
And just to clarify as the clue is in the name ...... CCO stands for 'carbon copy of '. Stick to authorised distributors and you cant go wrong . Sorry cant help with IBD as do not use it
 
I have used both cco (which stands for cocome, their brand) and ibd. I found cco to be quite thick and gloopy and difficult to apply thinly, particularly with pastel colours. Ibd goes on much more smoothly and evenly as it has a runnier consistency. I'm now investing in ibd as my other brands run out as they do some fab colours and apply so nicely.
 
Thanks ladies. Don't suppose you have any thoughts on IBD?
Take a look at ink London, fantastic products, their ilacs are so lovely to use and brilliant prices. Pro only products xx
 
Hi Salon Geeks,

I bought CCO from ebay, just wondering if anyone else has tried this?

It was cheap, probably hence my complaint! I just wanted something basic to start with but think I wasted my money. Guess I just wanted to check it's not in my application. I followed manufacturing instructions;
Thin base-cure 30sec
Thin colour-cure 2mins
2nd thin colour-cure 2mins
Thin top-cure 2mins
Capping free edge each layer and correct prep.
I personally don't think there's anything wrong with using these products..I have CND cco and bluesky..My clients are always happy with their nails and I've not long done a day refresher course with one of the best nail techs in Liverpool and she also had a few cco gels! As long as you explain to your client that it's a gel and not shellac ect then I don't really see why there's a problem! Xx
 
I personally don't think there's anything wrong with using these products..I have CND cco and bluesky..My clients are always happy with their nails and I've not long done a day refresher course with one of the best nail techs in Liverpool and she also had a few cco gels! As long as you explain to your client that it's a gel and not shellac ect then I don't really see why there's a problem! Xx

It's not a professional product.
It's known for causing higher incidences of overexposure and allergies.
It's almost impossible to remove which damages nails.
 
It's not a professional product.
It's known for causing higher incidences of overexposure and allergies.
It's almost impossible to remove which damages nails.

It's interesting how people who would never dream of using products like this know so much about well it applies, lasts and removes etc!!
I found it removes fine! Buff top coat. Acetone foul wraps for 10 minutes and gently scrape off the nail. No problem at all.

I often wonder how much of the information banding around about the cheaper nob professional brands is slander to stop people starting up as nail techs for less money then charging less than their competitors.
 
r nob professional brands is slander to stop people starting up as nail techs for less money then charging less than their competitors.
I think you'll find that the reason many experienced nail techs dislike the cheap non professional products are because we are tired of seeing the damage these products (and their ill informed users) cause to what should be healthy nails.
The companies who sell these products, usually on sites such as eBay or Amazon, do not offer any education. They don't support the professional nail tech. They don't support our industry. They do nothing to promote our industry to our clients, indeed they like to sell directly to our clients!
Trust me we are not jealous or concerned about being undercut by users of these products but rather the concern is with the damage they cause to nails and the professional industry in general.
 
It's not a professional product.
It's known for causing higher incidences of overexposure and allergies.
It's almost impossible to remove which damages nails.
I don't know where you get 'it's impossible to remove' from? I've never had a problem getting it off so I don't know why you do and I've also never had any allergy problem!! I knew I was guaranteed a reply off you as you seem to have a big problem with it. Some nail techs use it and some don't,whether you tell me it's not professional or not it won't change the fact that I'm still a professional nail tech that has done very well setting up well within a year and my clients love it so I won't stop using what they love [emoji106]
 
I don't know where you get 'it's impossible to remove' from? I've never had a problem getting it off so I don't know why you do and I've also never had any allergy problem!! I knew I was guaranteed a reply off you as you seem to have a big problem with it. Some nail techs use it and some don't,whether you tell me it's not professional or not it won't change the fact that I'm still a professional nail tech that has done very well setting up well within a year and my clients love it so I won't stop using what they love [emoji106]

You personally not having an allergy problem proves absolutely nothing.
We have clients come to us with these products on their nails so we see the damage they do! They come in and it's extremely difficult to remove and we see how damaged their nails are underneath. This has shaken the confidence of the client who now thinks gel polish ruins nails and it's hard for them to regain that confidence in us as professionals, they don't understand the difference in products. They tell their friends that gel polish ruins nails, which loses us more potential clients. Sometimes if they stay to have new pro product on which is applied and removed correctly they see the difference and can become a loyal clients but these products don't just lose individuals business, they lose the whole industry business. Especially as they can also go on groupon and buy this stuff to apply on themselves! Whose going to think they are seeing a pro who has specialist skills if they are using stuff from eBay or groupon?
Nail techs using these unregulated non pro products is incredibly damaging on our industry.
 
You personally not having an allergy problem proves absolutely nothing.
We have clients come to us with these products on their nails so we see the damage they do! They come in and it's extremely difficult to remove and we see how damaged their nails are underneath. This has shaken the confidence of the client who now thinks gel polish ruins nails and it's hard for them to regain that confidence in us as professionals, they don't understand the difference in products. They tell their friends that gel polish ruins nails, which loses us more potential clients. Sometimes if they stay to have new pro product on which is applied and removed correctly they see the difference and can become a loyal clients but these products don't just lose individuals business, they lose the whole industry business. Especially as they can also go on groupon and buy this stuff to apply on themselves! Whose going to think they are seeing a pro who has specialist skills if they are using stuff from eBay or groupon?
Nail techs using these unregulated non pro products is incredibly damaging on our industry.
I'm sure people have reactions to any products,I've seen people selling off their stock due to reactions or being allergic which is gelish ect doesn't mean it's down to the product! I don't know why this is such an issue,go on eBay and you can buy almost anything including CND Gelish and opi ect..
If you buy any of them does that mean your not a professional? And to be honest most my gels go over acrylics but when someone does come in for gel over their natural nails there nails have never been ruined from it so I don't know why your clients are different.
 
I'm sure people have reactions to any products,I've seen people selling off their stock due to reactions or being allergic which is gelish ect doesn't mean it's down to the product! I don't know why this is such an issue,go on eBay and you can buy almost anything including CND Gelish and opi ect..
If you buy any of them does that mean your not a professional? And to be honest most my gels go over acrylics but when someone does come in for gel over their natural nails there nails have never been ruined from it so I don't know why your clients are different.

Bluesky and cco have higher levels of photo initiators so cause more reactions than other products. In particular CND shellac which is hypoallergenic.
CCO and bluesky themselves, the actual companies, sell on eBay. That is hugely different to some techs selling on their pro products on eBay which they aren't supposed to. Plus there is lots of fakes of pro products on eBay.
You may not see the nails as damaged but if all your clients have damaged nails as they all have counterfeit products on their nails then it won't seem out of the ordinary.
When clients come in and have either been to NSS or had bluesky/CCO on their nails or both I can see a marked difference in how it removes and how the nail is afterwards. I ask clients questions regarding where they had gel polish applied so I know what is on their nails. Many other techs say the same.
 
Bluesky and cco have higher levels of photo initiators so cause more reactions than other products. In particular CND shellac which is hypoallergenic.
CCO and bluesky themselves, the actual companies, sell on eBay. That is hugely different to some techs selling on their pro products on eBay which they aren't supposed to. Plus there is lots of fakes of pro products on eBay.
You may not see the nails as damaged but if all your clients have damaged nails as they all have counterfeit products on their nails then it won't seem out of the ordinary.
When clients come in and have either been to NSS or had bluesky/CCO on their nails or both I can see a marked difference in how it removes and how the nail is afterwards. I ask clients questions regarding where they had gel polish applied so I know what is on their nails. Many other techs say the same.
Well before I started my nail course I had bluesky gel done on my natural nails for about 2 years every 3 weeks and because it was removed properly my nails where perfectly fine,that's why I feel like it's fine to use on my clients because I've had the experience of using it for years..lets just agree to disagree.
 
I would only use pro only products for all my treatments, possible client problems and service breakdown aside I want to support the industry I'm in.

One thing I don't get is why people think it makes sense to charge a cheaper price when using a cheaper gel polish? Wether your gel is £23 a bottle or £9 it is still pennies per application what you are actually charging for is your skill and time.
 
A lot of techs have observed that removal often takes a long time with these brands. But it is hard to tell if this is a result of the quality of the products or of skills of the people using it. However, the higher amount of cheaper photo initiators used in these products tend to make them harder to remove.

Here, BS and CCO are considered counterfeit brands - not my opinion, but a legal designation. They use the graphic identity of other brands to deceive techs, clients, and others about what they are purchasing. They even used the trademarked names of Shellac and Gelish until they were sued to make them stop. They have been confiscated at trade shows. They do still use the bottle design and color names of the known brands. Additionally, there have been issues about the availability of MSDS, insurability, animal cruelty, and allergic reactions. And many techs do not like that it is sold on eBay to anyone. It is generally not considered a professional product. These brands do not offer the associated products like removers, conditioners, or lamps; they simply skim off the most profitable part of the industry. They do not provide any marketing support, education or training, or customer support. They do not advertise in professional media. You are on your own with them.

From a business perspective, you must also remember that product cost is actually only a small part of your prices, usually less than 7-8%, so choosing cheap products has little impact on your costs and can cost you by marking you as a less than professional and even NSS salon. I used to work with borderline NSS salons in improving their business. The very first thing we did was get rid of dodgy products, including counterfeits. The results were consistently good - a very positive response from existing clients and an increase new clients.

I know some techs use BS and CCO and are satisfied. We each have the right and the responsibility to make choices for our business and our clients. We should also consider how our choices impact the industry, since ultimately we can only rise and fall with the industry. Personally, I choose not to use counterfeit products because I believe they undermine my hard-earned professionalism and the professionalism of the nail industry.

Sorry to be so long winded on this. I do think it is an important issue.
 
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You wouldn't go to the hairdresser and feel it acceptable if they put a superdrug box dye on, whilst charging salon prices!

That's how I feel about non professional products such Bluesky etc. This is my opinion and others may feel different x
 

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