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Hi All,:|

I'm just wondering am I doing it right? :| I use IBD gel system and usually recommend to my clients that they only keep them on for 3 months? as I feel the natural nail needs time to heal and then put a new set on but I have suggested this to 2 clients now and I haven't heard from them since because they are growing and looking after their own nails :cry: but I do notice that after 2 months they start to look awful and when I'm doing the infils the tip towards the cuticle breaks and crracks as I'm trying to get them flat to the natural nail again to re-apply gel hope I am making sense?

I'd love some advice on this I do insist on my clients using cuticle oil

Thanks

Kate xxxxxxx :hug:
 
Hi All,:|

I'm just wondering am I doing it right? :| I use IBD gel system and usually recommend to my clients that they only keep them on for 3 months? as I feel the natural nail needs time to heal and then put a new set on but I have suggested this to 2 clients now and I haven't heard from them since because they are growing and looking after their own nails :cry: but I do notice that after 2 months they start to look awful and when I'm doing the infils the tip towards the cuticle breaks and crracks as I'm trying to get them flat to the natural nail again to re-apply gel hope I am making sense?

I'd love some advice on this I do insist on my clients using cuticle oil

Thanks

Kate xxxxxxx :hug:
Hun I don't know where you were told that the "natural nail needs time to heal" This concerns me a lot :eek:

If you apply enhancements properly there is no damage done to the natural nail therefore no reason at all why you should be removing after 3 months.

You advise your clients to return to you every 2-3 weeks for a rebalance and in the mean time to apply cuticle oil one or twice a day around the cuticle and side walls this will keep the natural nail and the enhancements in lovely condition.:hug:
 
Hi All,:|

I'm just wondering am I doing it right? :| I use IBD gel system and usually recommend to my clients that they only keep them on for 3 months? as I feel the natural nail needs time to heal and then put a new set on but I have suggested this to 2 clients now and I haven't heard from them since because they are growing and looking after their own nails :cry: but I do notice that after 2 months they start to look awful and when I'm doing the infils the tip towards the cuticle breaks and crracks as I'm trying to get them flat to the natural nail again to re-apply gel hope I am making sense?

I'd love some advice on this I do insist on my clients using cuticle oil

Thanks

Kate xxxxxxx :hug:

I use IBD Gel, but i've never recommended to clients that they need to remove every so often. One of my clients has had theirs on over a year with no need for removal. The natural nail shouldn't need time to heal because there should be no damage caused to it during application.

As for the clients that say they will call then dont, maybe give them a call or send a newsletter with an offer, they may have just misplaced your number.

How often do you rebalance? is it lifting areas that you are trying to get rid of that crack? just trying to get a clearer idea of what you mean.
 
I thought that but how long would you recommend m eto leave the nail ext's on then before they have to be removed?

And why are my tips cracking when they come back for infils?? what's happening there they get sooo bad that they might as well be removed then but saying that my mum has just had a full set of nails with me and hers haven't cracked atall she looks after hers very well though and puts her cuticle oil on twice a day do you think that the cracking has anything to do with not applying the cuticle oil? :| as I suspected that my client hadn't been looking after them properly am I right

Thanks for your help

Kate xxxxx :lol:
 
Thanks for your help so you say a year to keep the nails on do you? oh god I've got it soo wrong haven't I and I might've lost those clients now couple of questions 1. my mum has had a full set of nails and I do her infils and re-balance every 2 weeks and they are in perfect condition except that her own nails are growing at a great rate underneath her tips what can I do about this?? 2. when I said about the cracking I mean the tip when I am filing to blend after 2 weeks seems to crack so that I am left with hardly any tip underneath sorry if I don't make sense :| but my mum really looks after her nails with cuticle oil twice a day and her nails are perfect no cracking and when I blend it's perfect

Thanks if you can help great

Kate xxxx:hug:
 
As the nail is constantly growing (it takes 6 months to grow from the matrix to the free edge, approximately) and you are removing some product then applying new at each rebalance, there is no need to ever remove the gel and put on a new set.

Do you mean the tips are cracking, or the gel over the tips? Could it be that the client is too heavy with them? Are they the right length for her?
 
I thought that but how long would you recommend m eto leave the nail ext's on then before they have to be removed?

And why are my tips cracking when they come back for infils?? what's happening there they get sooo bad that they might as well be removed then but saying that my mum has just had a full set of nails with me and hers haven't cracked atall she looks after hers very well though and puts her cuticle oil on twice a day do you think that the cracking has anything to do with not applying the cuticle oil? :| as I suspected that my client hadn't been looking after them properly am I right

Thanks for your help

Kate xxxxx :lol:
If you get them back every 2-3 weeks for a rebalace then you need never remover thier enhancements.
I don't use IBD but I do do Gel and I have a client who has had the same set on for almost 2 years.

The cracking could just be lifting, does it just flick off when you are filing? If so then it will be lifting.
There is no denying that cuticle oil helps but I know the majority of clients will only put it on when they remember or a few days before they come to you:lol:

I would definitely advise them to make an appointment with you say 2 weeks after they get the first set done just to see what the growth rate is like then you can go longer if they need hths
 
As the nail is constantly growing (it takes 6 months to grow from the matrix to the free edge, approximately) and you are removing some product then applying new at each rebalance, there is no need to ever remove the gel and put on a new set.

Do you mean the tips are cracking, or the gel over the tips? Could it be that the client is too heavy with them? Are they the right length for her?

OH MY GOD how wrong have I got it but what do you do when like my mums nails underneath are growing and are mid way up the tip underneath, what do you do then?:|

Yeah the tips are cracking when I file to rebalance and blend to natural nail again, are you putting 3 coats on for your gel layers I am puttingg one layer of builder gel and then one of clear gel? I'm doubting myself now is this right? or do you need more layers say finishing off with builder gel?

I really appreciate your help this is a fab site :lol:

Kate xxxx
 
1. my mum has had a full set of nails and I do her infils and re-balance every 2 weeks and they are in perfect condition except that her own nails are growing at a great rate underneath her tips what can I do about this??
I'm slightly confused, do you mean they are growing away from the tips (as in, peeling away), or that they are just growing really quick? If its the later, the idea is for the tips to eventually grow out so that the client is left with a gel overlay over their natural nails.


2. when I said about the cracking I mean the tip when I am filing to blend after 2 weeks seems to crack so that I am left with hardly any tip underneath
Do you have a picture of this, as i'm still unsure what you mean sorry.

xxx
 
sorry i think we were typing at the same time lol

Do you mean you are filing off all the gel at rebalance?

Can you talk me through how you usually do a rebalance?

Did you train with IBD or though a college?

Sorry for all the questions, just trying to get a better idea hun
 
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If you get them back every 2-3 weeks for a rebalace then you need never remover thier enhancements.
I don't use IBD but I do do Gel and I have a client who has had the same set on for almost 2 years.

The cracking could just be lifting, does it just flick off when you are filing? If so then it will be lifting.
There is no denying that cuticle oil helps but I know the majority of clients will only put it on when they remember or a few days before they come to you:lol:

I would definitely advise them to make an appointment with you say 2 weeks after they get the first set done just to see what the growth rate is like then you can go longer if they need hths


Yeah that's it exactly it's like the tip flakes off and I end up with hardly any tip to work with? but my mum has had a full set with me and when I do her infils her nails are perfect no cracking or anything and I know for a fact that she applies the cuticle oil twice a day so I think it makes a difference doesn't it? but there is a lot of mums nail underneath the tip that worries me how do you get over this problem if leaving them on for a year or more the natural nail re-growth is bound to be there how do I get over this and what do you do? :confused:

Kate xxxx:hug:
 
Yeah that's it exactly it's like the tip flakes off and I end up with hardly any tip to work with? but my mum has had a full set with me and when I do her infils her nails are perfect no cracking or anything and I know for a fact that she applies the cuticle oil twice a day so I think it makes a difference doesn't it? but there is a lot of mums nail underneath the tip that worries me how do you get over this problem if leaving them on for a year or more the natural nail re-growth is bound to be there how do I get over this and what do you do? :confused:

Kate xxxx:hug:
As said by Lil Linz the nail is still growing under the enhancement and every time you rebalance a little more of the tip will disappear until there is no tip left just the natural nail which then means you are doing a Natural Nail Overlay. This is very normal.

Is it white tips you are applying?
Do you use Pink and White Gel?

:hug:
 
Hiya ..Did you train with IBD...?
 
sorry i think we were typing at the same time lol

Do you mean you are filing off all the gel at rebalance?

Can you talk me through how you usually do a rebalance?

Did you train with IBD or though a college?

Sorry for all the questions, just trying to get a better idea hun

Sooo Sorry for confusing you I trained with IBD only a day course though conversion and I've done a couple of other systems but preferred IBD I will talk you through what I do
Infills after 2 weeks
1. I file with a white sanding block to blend the gel back into the natural nail so it is flat (this where I find that sometimes not always that the tip underneath the gel splits, breaks off)

2. I put primer on where the infil has grown between cuticle and nail (extension)

3. Apply one layer of builder gel over gap and nail to the free edge (cure for 3 mins)

4. Apply layer of clear gel (cure for 3 mins)

5. take tak off with finishing wipe

6. File again making sure no gel on sides then file all over with white sanding block

7 Finish with top coat (can't remember name) and cure again for 3 mins) apply cuticle oil finished

I really hope you undrestand what I mean now I've been doing it sooo wrong:cry:

Thanks for your help

kate xxxx
 
but there is a lot of mums nail underneath the tip that worries me how do you get over this problem if leaving them on for a year or more the natural nail re-growth is bound to be there how do I get over this and what do you do? :confused:

Don't worry about it - it's meant to happen! The natural nail will grow underneath the overlay so instead of putting gel on to a tip you put in onto natural nail. That way your clients can wear nails indefinitely if they want to......

It's not a problem, it's a good thing!
 
Are you using IBD tips? Have you been capping the free edge? Is there a gap between the tip and gel before you have stared filing?
 
Hiya ..Did you train with IBD...?

Yes I trained with IBD but only a day conversion course so I don't feel it was enough as I am still learning all these things :|

Oh god I'm soooo confused now:cry:

Love Kate xxx
 
try a little less buffing off. I made the mistake of taking too much away when I first started extensions and the tips ended up so thin they cracked. Most of the time our nightmares turn out to be something so simple, don't worry about it just work on your own technique and you will find your own method which will be successful for you. Don't over analyse it will begin to knock your confidence trust me I speak from experience.
 
Don't worry about it - it's meant to happen! The natural nail will grow underneath the overlay so instead of putting gel on to a tip you put in onto natural nail. That way your clients can wear nails indefinitely if they want to......

It's not a problem, it's a good thing!

I'm getting confused now :| not hard for me, when you say that I'm just putting gel on natutral nail instead of tip so I don't take the gel down over the tip every time do I?:confused: sorry for being sooo blonde I need help obviously

Thanks for your post :hug:

As said by Lil Linz the nail is still growing under the enhancement and every time you rebalance a little more of the tip will disappear until there is no tip left just the natural nail which then means you are doing a Natural Nail Overlay. This is very normal.

Is it white tips you are applying?
Do you use Pink and White Gel?

:hug:

I'm starting to understand now but my clients were soooo cracked they were awful so I said they willl have to come off coz they were sooo bad (why is this coz my mums just aren't like this) so in the meantime my client has taken her nails off (not good) but says that she wants them back on for her hols couls it be she wasn't applying the cuticle oil?:grr: don't like to accuse her of not looking after them coz she said she was applying the cuticle oil but not all my nails look like hers after 2 weeks??

Heeeeeeeeelp:cry:



As said by Lil Linz the nail is still growing under the enhancement and every time you rebalance a little more of the tip will disappear until there is no tip left just the natural nail which then means you are doing a Natural Nail Overlay. This is very normal.

Is it white tips you are applying?
Do you use Pink and White Gel?

:hug:

I use both french and plain tips no I just use clear gel:grr:



Don't worry about it - it's meant to happen! The natural nail will grow underneath the overlay so instead of putting gel on to a tip you put in onto natural nail. That way your clients can wear nails indefinitely if they want to......

It's not a problem, it's a good thing!

So when the nails are grown out do you then put another set of nails on or do you suggest to the client that she should then have a break?:confused:

Thanks

Love Kate
 
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I'm getting confused now :| not hard for me, when you say that I'm just putting gel on natutral nail instead of tip so I don't take the gel down over the tip every time do I?:confused: sorry for being sooo blonde I need help obviously

Thanks for your post

Kate xxxx:hug:

No not directly onto the natural nail :) but that's what is underneath the enhancement eventually...... Sorry didn't mean to confuse you more, I was trying to help you visualise why you don't need to remove and re-tip.....

Does that help more??
 

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