Hello newly qualified

[Borntocuthair]

Hi there

i have recntly qualified in level 2 hair and just looking for some advice if any of you ladies would help?

i am steady away gaining new clients but as in college there are somethings that come up that you dont do in college...in college clients would come in for highlights and blonde,some highlift tint and some bleach,darker hair needed a toner violet and teacher used colour fresh true semi,which was very nice and got the end result the client wanted but we were never told that the kolleston perfect and colour touch can be used to tone as a toner used with pastel,i have been reading up loads and trying to get myself familiar with this and how to use ect and how long to leave on the hair! after a waffle on there lol i have a client next week who is a base shade 4 with colour as she had red before and previous hairdresser has been trying to get rid of the red but now the client wants to go lighter so i suggested half head highlights to see how she likes them but all she wants is to go a lighter brown maybe 6 or a 7,am i better off mixing up with pastel apply as a toner or just deposit the colour over the highlights but dont want to lift any of the other hair. i am thinking 6/1 or 7/17, what would you suggest? im just thinking she will have the red n orange tones after the highlights.
to mix up as a toner is it 1 part colour and 2 parts pastel? apply as normal or apply at basin and watch?
sorry to waffle on i just want to get this set in my mind as im confident in hairdressing n just want a little advice on the toners as

thank you!

 

[AcidPerm]

As you've only just completed your level 2 at college, I think you should look at attending a colour correction course before attempting something like this.

1. Do you understand the difference between using a colour remover, colour reducer and a bleach bath, for instance?

2. If your client's hair is currently a level 4 with colour, how are you going to get it to a 6/7 without leaving it bright orange?

I know you're asking for advice on what to do with this particular client, but supposing you follow someone's advice and the results don't come out as expected, will you know why it's gone wrong and how to correct it?

At least at college or in a salon, you can ask your tutor/colleague for advice and they can see the current condition of the hair and advise accordingly.

If you feel confident answering the above two questions then go ahead otherwise, operate cautiously.

 

[Borntocuthair]

I am going on to do level 3 in September which is more colour correction ect but bleech bath for highlights? its not a full colour correction im asking about. she dont want to do be lighter full head, I am going to do half head highlights on the lady, to avoid bright orange? lift low and slow to get more of the orange tones out.all I was asking is about using koleston perfect/touch as a toner as just incase the is to much warm tone left in the hair and to cancel it out. so all in all my question about tone but I tort id put why I was asking.
can any one give me shome heads up? im not asking how to do the whole thing and ive suggested colours ext ro tone
I am a very cautious person who dont jump feet first.
thanks

 

[AcidPerm]

Sounds like you've picked up a lot more understanding about colour than many level 2 qualifiers I've come across. I was advising caution just in case you were taking on too much as you were asking about toner application as well as product choice.

Sorry, but I don't use Wella ( I use TiGi, Goldwell, Matrix...).

Generally, you need to consider your toning options after lifting out old colour as you can't always be certain how the highlights will lift when it's a new client. In which case, I recommend doing a few strand tests beforehand.

If some strands lift just to red and others more orange you will need to consider how to get them an even lift before any toner application. When doing the actual service, you might need to leave some packets on a bit longer and use some damp cotton wool to wipe others. Applying toner at the basin is generally best but more difficult to do if mobile, I find.

The more options you work out in advance the less likelihood of encountering problems but it sounds like you're already considering possible outcomes and how to deal with them.

Good luck with your client and your level 3. Also, if you're particularly interested in colour, you might like to consider attending a course run by your preferred colour house such as Wella as well as your level 3. Specialist courses are brilliant for teaching you handy tips & tricks. ;-)

Hopefully, a Wella geek will be along shortly and my reply will bounce your post up the list.

 

[Borntocuthair]

hello

fab fab fab!!! thank you so much!

i think i just wanted more reassurance with using a colour as a toner when mixed with pastel than anything else i know all my colours ect so was just that,im going to take a strand test from the lady and see how her hair goes,and yes when your saying about the cotton wool to stop the bleach from working i was thinking to myself if the bleach lifts fast in places stop it with cotton wool and water.

i have picked up alot but ive gone away from college n studied to build my knowledge. just need to gain experience which will come in time,i have a wella colour shade chart that i go off when picking colour with clients, i cant wait to get stuck into the level 3 and i think its a good idea about going on a separate colour course.getting me excited now haha

there isnt anything wrong with been cautious when it comes to hair,you would have seen it all and experienced it too,if i felt like it was going to be too much id say im not going to do it and explain why and i would take her up the college with me when i go back if i was worried,i like to think ahead incase anything dont go to plan and have the back up if needed,and it give me that piece of mind.

thats thing thing about been mobile isnt it no proper wash basin but if i can get the toner on quick and time by eye,

thanks again xxx

Sounds like you've picked up a lot more understanding about colour than many level 2 qualifiers I've come across. I was advising caution just in case you were taking on too much as you were asking about toner application as well as product choice.

Sorry, but I don't use Wella ( I use TiGi, Goldwell, Matrix...).

Generally, you need to consider your toning options after lifting out old colour as you can't always be certain how the highlights will lift when it's a new client. In which case, I recommend doing a few strand tests beforehand.

If some strands lift just to red and others more orange you will need to consider how to get them an even lift before any toner application. When doing the actual service, you might need to leave some packets on a bit longer and use some damp cotton wool to wipe others. Applying toner at the basin is generally best but more difficult to do if mobile, I find.

The more options you work out in advance the less likelihood of encountering problems but it sounds like you're already considering possible outcomes and how to deal with them.

Good luck with your client and your level 3. Also, if you're particularly interested in colour, you might like to consider attending a course run by your preferred colour house such as Wella as well as your level 3. Specialist courses are brilliant for teaching you handy tips & tricks. ;-)

Hopefully, a Wella geek will be along shortly and my reply will bounce your post up the list.