is this the end for me???

[extensionten]

Doug? If I am reacting to the acrylic dust what can be done? As I don't want to stop doing nails & I'm not keen on gel really like acrylic!! I try to keep the dust down to a minium but there is always going to be some!!

Sorry hun, Doug Shoon.... x

 

[sandy12b]

You say the problem is still there when you wear gloves? What type of gloves are you wearing? If you are illergic to the monomer who says your hands are not also sensitive to latex or the powder in gloves? Try some non-powdered non-latex and see if its any better.

Wearing goggles is a good way to stop sore eyes, plus you dont have to look like your in a science lesson as theres places doing 'stylish' ones in nice tints. There was an advert for some in a magazine reciently but I can't find it, does anyone else know?

yes i use latex free gloves, and i have only used them a couple of times when and once even used a derma shield moisteriser underneath, so i have given up doing l and p now, as it is becoming a pain in more ways than one, and i still work on the maternity ward as a midwife on bank shifts so i need my hands to be healthy. I think i will work only with uv gel from now on and maybe try silks at a later date.....thanks everyone x:hug:

 

[~shelley~]

Good luck, im sure you wont loose any clients as Gel is fab xxxxx

 

[jennibabe]

The reason that you still have the problem when wearing gloves is that you are probably allergic to "acrylates" in your monimer. This chemical is also found in some gels. You need to check your msd sheets and it will be listed there. "Acrylates" permiate latex, hence they do not protect you from the chemical exposure. A quick trip to a specialist can confirm this for you. I have the same problem and I am still able to work. I am very carefull to never get monimer on my skin at all. I also wear a protectant called "demaguard". It is waterproof and is like an invisible glove. Good luck with it as I know how insane and ugly the itching and blisters are...There is hope but you must get a referal to a specialist, take your msd sheets, heal your hands and go from there...

 

[FabulousFingers]

Have you tried using lechat. I thought I would never use a gel system as I loved acrylic but have found Lechat to be better than acrylic as you get the shine of a gel with the strength of an acrylic.
TONI

 

[Peanut1]

This may sound crazy, but I worked with a girl 10 years ago that used Tammy Taylor. I tried to convert her to CND, but no matter what we tried she always broke out with a terrible rash. To this day she still uses TT because it is the only line of LP that she is NOT alergic too.
Worth it to try another line?

 

[angel fingers]

The reason that you still have the problem when wearing gloves is that you are probably allergic to "acrylates" in your monimer. This chemical is also found in some gels. You need to check your msd sheets and it will be listed there. "Acrylates" permiate latex, hence they do not protect you from the chemical exposure. A quick trip to a specialist can confirm this for you. I have the same problem and I am still able to work. I am very carefull to never get monimer on my skin at all. I also wear a protectant called "demaguard". It is waterproof and is like an invisible glove. Good luck with it as I know how insane and ugly the itching and blisters are...There is hope but you must get a referal to a specialist, take your msd sheets, heal your hands and go from there...

a good post, the dermaguard product sounds very interesting.

had to laugh at the phrase 'a quick trip to a specialist'
i'm afraid with the british national health service, nothing can be described as quick. you have to plan ahead with health problems over here.:lol:

 

[extensionten]

Where do we buy dermaguard in the UK? from the pharmacist or would we need to visit our GP? Sounds like a plan to me!! xx:wink2:

 

[Emi-loo]

I have just read about a product in my Vitality mag - called 'Gloves in a Bottle' it apparently protects hands from allergies and helps the hands to heal - I would give you further info, but my friend who has a dreadful allergy has just cut it out of the mag - type in Gloves in a bottle on line and it brings up loads about the product, there was no phone number, but it looks like you can order in on line for between £9/10 - try it, anythings worth a go!!!
HTH

 

[angel fingers]

I have just read about a product in my Vitality mag - called 'Gloves in a Bottle' it apparently protects hands from allergies and helps the hands to heal - I would give you further info, but my friend who has a dreadful allergy has just cut it out of the mag - type in Gloves in a bottle on line and it brings up loads about the product, there was no phone number, but it looks like you can order in on line for between £9/10 - try it, anythings worth a go!!!
HTH

thats for sure. £10 to save your career in nails. now that would be money well spent if its successful.

 

[jennibabe]

Not sure where in the Uk you can get it but ask your salon supplier as that is where I get mine from. Wearing dermaguard is just an added protection for your skin. It is issed here in Australia to prison guards as an added protection against blood spills etc...You do not need a prescription to purchase and makes a great retail product for health care professionals.You still need to be vigilant in not allowing any monimer or gel make contact with your skin! (or your clients)

 

[NtricateDesigns]

Ask you doctor to put you on some allergy meds, maybe a histimine blocker or something, and see if it helps lessen the reaction enough for you to work with gloves on.

 

[jennibabe]

Alergy meds will not help if she continues to expose her skin. As I said if she is allergic to "acrylates" gloves do not help as the chemical crosses through gloves! This is why she still has problems even when wearing latex gloves.

 

[jebelote]

I was just wondering if you concidered a vented manicure table? I am pretty new to this but I found one and use it to practice because hubby said it smells. He can't smell it with the fans on. I found I get loads of dust too. Amazing how much goes into the vents.

Good luck
Jackie

 

[gailsnails]

Hi
have you tried the new tip and dip sysyem - i am using the edge system and its brilliant i have only used it on myself and friends and as yet on no paying customers but i thinks its a dream and so easy takes less than 1 hour to apply full set of nails and polish , cant praise it enough .


hope you can come to a solution

regards
gail:hug:

 

[sandy12b]

I have replied to quite a few threads lately about wearing gloves and allergic reactions to monomer/dust....in every one I have asked if the person in question is wearing their gloves for the WHOLE of the process or are they, for example, doing Prep without them on, filing without them on etc and so far no-one has replied....what do you do?? ...wear them ALL the time you are with each client or just for say the application when you are actually using a brush with monomer???? Some people still react to the dust from gels too but for some reason not the gel itself when they wear Gel enhancements.

I wear gloves from the very beginning and up to the client going home and the gloves are latex free....it all began with reacting to the file dust with the l and p and gel, but i have since done my own nails with the gel, one thumb at first to see if i reacted and i did not so completed the nails and so far so good, I also did my own patch test with the products, as i thought it was the adhesive, so i place a small dot of each product ie monomer, adhesive, gel, primer and cuticle oil and it was just the monomer that came up in a red, itchy patch.

sandy x

 

[sandy12b]

Sandy,

Sorry to hear you are having this problem. I worked with acrylics for 4 years and quit due to many problems including a reaction that was not identified as an allergy. 10 years later I decide to start again, 1 exposure to acrylic and the whole reaction started again. So I tried gels. Guess what, after about 3 months working with gel the whole reaction started again, even worse now!! This time my eyelids were cracked and bleeding and my fingers were covered in blisters and redness that was so annoying I was chewing them in the middle of the night while sleeping. I took my summer holidays to decide what I was going to do and to take the time to heal. Started up again and the allergy was almost immediate. I was too stubborn to give up so I have found some things that help.

1. I stopped using any bonder gels (that was a big help)
2. I started using a barrier cream
3. I installed a vent system that sucks up dust and also blows dust down into the vent so there is a minimum of dust on my hands or face
4. I wash very well immediately after the service and also use a hand sanitizer after washing.

I think the most important thing I did was to let my body heal totally before starting again. Even now I still have to take antihistamines some days and I still get some itchy fingers but I am able to keep it all to a minimum.

I too loved acrylics and know that the switch can be difficult. I am in Canada where gels are more of a specialized service so I can sell them very well. Almost all of my customers were previous acrylic wearers but all now love the gel. A few of my customers had lots of trouble until they tried gel and now they wouldn't go back. We can charge more for gels (in Canada) than for acrylic. So maybe this could be a great opportunity for you!!

Please take the time to heal and to consider gels. I have found that Akzentz has gels that I can use (and love!!) that cause me the least reactions. Others have not been so good.

Good luck!!

thank you Tika for taking the time for your advise....yes even though i have not had a reaction to the Gel I know it will only be a matter of time, so i will still wear gloves and derma shield when applying them and i have recently bought a air purifier ioners, and keep my front door open if it is a nice day, but i do not know whether this is a good thing or bad thing as wind can blow dust around and make it worst, i will take a look at Akzentz products at the moment i use NSI and i find they are so far so good and nice to use.:hug:

sandy x

 

[extensionten]

The reason that you still have the problem when wearing gloves is that you are probably allergic to "acrylates" in your monimer. This chemical is also found in some gels. You need to check your msd sheets and it will be listed there. "Acrylates" permiate latex, hence they do not protect you from the chemical exposure.


Hi Sandy.... did you see this quote from jennibabe?

There is a lot of info on the site to help you with the problem you are having. Hope you are getting it sorted.

One thing I will add is to NOT do patch tests on your skin - !!!! If there are tests to be done then a dermatologist would do them for you. We already know that we should avoid all contact with the skin when applying product... so to actually do a patch test on your skin with the monomer is not a very sensible idea. You are definately allergic to something you are using here.... you only use L&P, and from all your descriptions in this and another post, it all points to your monomer. You have to face it that you need to change products before it gets worse.
xx

 

[extensionten]

even though i have not had a reaction to the Gel I know it will only be a matter of time,
sandy x[/quote]


Why will it only be a matter of time? Working wisely and with a hypoallergenic gel and taking all the precautions you are doing, you should be absolutely fine.

If you were going to have a reaction to the gel when you applied it, you would of done by now, believe me. Just be very careful (as usual) when removing the inhibition layer xx :hug:

 

[sandy12b]

Where do we buy dermaguard in the UK? from the pharmacist or would we need to visit our GP? Sounds like a plan to me!! xx:wink2:

Hi Kirsten,

thanks for all your advise, yes i used dermashield under my gloves but still came out in a rash the next day, so i do not think it works for me, but give them a try, they might be a solution to you, I have been using my own products, aloe vera and bee propolis for the healing process and my hands heal up in no time, for me to try all over again haha:lol: i am not sure of the web address as i have packed it away, but if you put dermashield in your search enging it will come up with the site, good luck,

sandy x:hug: