Odourless L&P?

[sarahmarie]

Hi there guys!!

I will try to cut a long story short..

I qualified in L&P Tip & Overlay nails, then gave up doing nails due to my allergy..

I LOVE doing nails and so I tried Creative's Brisa gels and thought I was ok so I did the Brisa conversion and had the products for my salon..

After doing a few sets, I realised I was still allergic.. :irked:

ANYWAY, after GRRRRRREEEAAAT advice from fellow geeks I have soooooo gladly found out that as suggested by Nailzoo, and Geeg, it must actually be the nail glue that has been giving me the chest problems, not the actual acrylic products!!

I have since worked VERY VERY careful with the glue (I have purchased brush-on glue, applied it precisely, wiped off the excess from the top of the nail when it has stuck so that there is no glue on top that would be filed..

And WAH LAH!!.... I have been fine doing the last few sets of nails!!..
Even competed in the newcomers comp at NEC Monday and I am totally fine.. No chest/sinus problems as I normally would have!! :green: :green: :green:

Can't believe it.. It simply must be the glue.. After totally ruling it out as the cause all of this time!!!

Anyway, due to l&p being quicker etc to work with.. I want to also do l&p.. BUT I rent a room above a hairdressers and do mostly beauty treatments and so did not really want the stench of l&p lingering all around the salon, as some people find it off-putting if they are having a relaxing treatment..

I brought the palms extra odourless liquid, and a little trial pack to try at the NEC show.. BUT, I tried it and it is runny and thin, and needs to be activated by uv light anyway, so I doubt very much that I will actually use it now!..

I REALLY want to start doing my own nails with popits also.. Can't wait for that!!! I know that they work better and easier with l&p too you see..

Basically, I was wondering if there is a 'catch' with all odourless liquids or if anyone knows of a good one?

If not, I think I will just use regular l&p in my salon anyway now that I know I can focus on nails more again... And can experiment loads with popits too, as I am getting more and more inspired seeing how nice Hiba's popits nails keep looking!.. Especially how she had them at the Birmingham show on Monday! They were lovely!..

Woo hoo, popits!! :lol: :lol:

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[leah82]

When I was training I enquired about odourless L&P but was told that although it is available its not as great as other products as for it to be odourless the bonding materials aren't as strong/good as something has to be removed for it to be odour free. In the end I decided not to get/use it & although I still have migraines/headaches etc.. not because of doing nails, I find now that as long as I don't over do it & I'm making sure there is no over exposure etc..... I am fine!! I actually have got used to the smell of the monomer, lol!!

 

[Saucygirl]

I have been using NOP Odorless made by INM.

I am very sensitive to the regular smell of monomer, so odorless was a must for me.

I LOVE this product. Love it, love it, love it!

It definitely has a different consistency than other l&p's, when it is cured it still has a gummy residue on the top that must be filed off. Another plus, I found with odorless, is that when filing, the dust kind of clumps together and rolls off, rather than being breathed up my nose.

It is self-levelling, and claims to need no primer, although I still use one. I haven't had lifting problems for weeks, and discovered it was all in my prep and not the product.

I hope you give it another try. In my case, I would never switch back.

 

[Vetty]

I qualified in L&P Tip & Overlay nails, then gave up doing nails due to my allergy..
Anyway, due to l&p being quicker etc to work with.. I want to also do l&p.. BUT I rent a room above a hairdressers and do mostly beauty treatments and so did not really want the stench of l&p lingering all around the salon, as some people find it off-putting if they are having a relaxing treatment..

I brought the palms extra odourless liquid, and a little trial pack to try at the NEC show.. BUT, I tried it and it is runny and thin, and needs to be activated by uv light anyway, so I doubt very much that I will actually use it now!..

Basically, I was wondering if there is a 'catch' with all odourless liquids or if anyone knows of a good one?

It definitely has a different consistency than other l&p's, when it is cured it still has a gummy residue on the top that must be filed off.

This 'gummy layer' is the catch with odourless l+p - it means the system is wasy higher up the sensitivity ladder than traditional l+p and considering your allergy problems I can't imagine you want to increase the chances of having a reaction to your product?

Traditional l+p does not have to leave a 'lingering stench' as you put it. By working smart you can minimise the odour from the monomer - the odour is cause when the product evaporates so minimise the evaporation and you minimise the odour.

Only decant monomer when you need it and as much as you need and wipe your dappen dish out as soon as you have finished your application.

Don't wipe your brush on your couch roll. Wipe on a pad dampened with Scrubfresh and discard that pad as soon as your application is finished.

Use a metal bin with a lid and put anything with monomer on it in there as soon as you are finished with it. The metal traps the smell inside.

These things will go a long way to minimising the odour from your monomer. Personally, I don't think odourless is the way to go - I believe there is service breakdown (yellowing) from these products as well as a much higher risk of over-exposure because the gummy layer is unreacted monomer.

hth's

 

[nailzoo]

This 'gummy layer' is the catch with odourless l+p - it means the system is wasy higher up the sensitivity ladder than traditional l+p and considering your allergy problems I can't imagine you want to increase the chances of having a reaction to your product?

Traditional l+p does not have to leave a 'lingering stench' as you put it. By working smart you can minimise the odour from the monomer - the odour is cause when the product evaporates so minimise the evaporation and you minimise the odour.

Only decant monomer when you need it and as much as you need and wipe your dappen dish out as soon as you have finished your application.

Don't wipe your brush on your couch roll. Wipe on a pad dampened with Scrubfresh and discard that pad as soon as your application is finished.

Use a metal bin with a lid and put anything with monomer on it in there as soon as you are finished with it. The metal traps the smell inside.

These things will go a long way to minimising the odour from your monomer. Personally, I don't think odourless is the way to go - I believe there is service breakdown (yellowing) from these products as well as a much higher risk of over-exposure because the gummy layer is unreacted monomer.

hth's

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[wild]

i like to use odor out it take the smell away
it comes in apple so my nails smell like apples

 

[sarahmarie]

This 'gummy layer' is the catch with odourless l+p - it means the system is wasy higher up the sensitivity ladder than traditional l+p and considering your allergy problems I can't imagine you want to increase the chances of having a reaction to your product?

Traditional l+p does not have to leave a 'lingering stench' as you put it. By working smart you can minimise the odour from the monomer - the odour is cause when the product evaporates so minimise the evaporation and you minimise the odour.

Only decant monomer when you need it and as much as you need and wipe your dappen dish out as soon as you have finished your application.

Don't wipe your brush on your couch roll. Wipe on a pad dampened with Scrubfresh and discard that pad as soon as your application is finished.

Use a metal bin with a lid and put anything with monomer on it in there as soon as you are finished with it. The metal traps the smell inside.

These things will go a long way to minimising the odour from your monomer. Personally, I don't think odourless is the way to go - I believe there is service breakdown (yellowing) from these products as well as a much higher risk of over-exposure because the gummy layer is unreacted monomer.

hth's

That's fantastic, thanks alot for that!!

I know that the odourless ones are nowhere near as good.. I have heard that a lot, and have also seen it for myself to when I tried it out yesterday..

I have now made the decision to start using l&p again..

Those tips are great Vetty thank u!!

xx