Anyone do hair and beauty?

[Miss Sylk]

Im a beauty therapist and i fancy doing hair. I seem to have a flair for it but never fancied it before. Hate the thought of long hours standing. However, now i have my own salon and a newly descovered flair for hair im considering it. At £850 for level 2. i need to know its going to be worth it. I know i will fly through it, but whats the point in wasting money on it if i wont make anything in my salon.

I do well with beauty treatments and in my eyes, hair is more necessary of the two so, i should do ok. But i still think, if i went to work in a hair salon 9-5 i would make that £850 back in no time. hmm...... its alll new to me this hair lark! lol

Anyone else sucessful at both?

 

[foxyemm]

Miss Sylk, if you feel you have a natural flair for it, just do it!

Why not, many hairdressers are talented in many other aspects of beauty among other things and vice versa.

Nothing worse in years to come that you wished you would have done something about it.

Good luck

 

[MissConfused]

i'm sure there will be a few hairdressers who will read this and be oober doober insulted at what you have just said.

if you know you will fly through it and you will make your £850 back straight away as a level 2 hairdresser with a natural 'flair' for hair then why are you debating it? surely there's nothing to debate?
x

 

[kimi1101]

I'm confused as to how you know you will fly through it??

because you are qualified in beauty? Or because of your "flair"?

How long is this course??

I'm not picking on you, but its like me saying I can paint my nails so I'll be great at acrylics.

 

[jotommo]

sure i do both...
i offer
all hair services, cuts colours. perms, hair extensions, barbering inc crazy designs
eye brow shape/tints
lash tint
hollywood lash
waxing
make up
threading

i am booked up 2 weeks in advance, 3-4 weeks for evening or weekend apps.
i work mobile but am opening up from my home to cut down travel time and fit them all in.
i beleive you can sucseed (spelt wrong lol) in whatever you work for...
£850 does not sound to bad either i know some that have paid £2000

 

[foxyemm]

I'm confused as to how you know you will fly through it??

because you are qualified in beauty? Or because of your "flair"?

How long is this course??

I'm not picking on you, but its like me saying I can paint my nails so I'll be great at acrylics.

Here we go, lets dash someones dreams!, If someone feels they will fly through it, then let them think that! :lick:

 

[kimi1101]

I don't get it? Are you agreeing or disagreeing me?

I'm not meaning to be mean - just thinking realistically.Its great to have confidence but when you start college and for the first 3 months all you are doing is shampooing and paperwork, its not so fun.

 

[persianista]

It will take you a long time before you make money at hair. Most people enter our trade because they love it. To do it because you think it is easy money compared to beauty...
I dont think it is. I am qualified in both by the way.

 

[lucelasticx]

Anyway becoming qualified is only the first steps in becoming a great hairdresser. So yes you may fly through the course but the hard work starts after that.
So go for it if you think you will enjoy it but like i have said time and time again, it takes alot of commitment , time and ongoing training to be a kick ass hairdresser. We just make it look easy thats all!!

 

[foxyemm]

I don't get it? Are you agreeing or disagreeing me?

I'm not meaning to be mean - just thinking realistically.Its great to have confidence but when you start college and for the first 3 months all you are doing is shampooing and paperwork, its not so fun.

It just totally unnecessary, if she feel she has a flair then that is her business. She is asking a simple question is any one successful in both?

She is not asking for your opinion on if she has a flair or if she will fly through it, so there was no need to pick up and comment on that.

Miss Sylk, yes some people do hair and beauty and are successful as some people have a natural flair for it, so good luck if you decide to do your course, let us know how you get on x

 

[kimi1101]

Ok she wasn't asking for my opinion.

I'm just trying to help her. If she pays £850 for a course, goes for 2 days and hates it, maybe then she'll have been glad to take my advice.

And if I'm ruining her dreams by my three questions...then maybe she wasn't that keen after all.

Good luck with your further training, just look into whether it is accredited and when you know what course it is specifically, I'd advise on posting it on here so if there is anyone else on the site who has used it, they can help as to whether it was useful or not.

 

[MissConfused]

It just totally unnecessary, if she feel she has a flair then that is her business. She is asking a simple question is any one successful in both?

She is not asking for your opinion on if she has a flair or if she will fly through it, so there was no need to pick up and comment on that.

Miss Sylk, yes some people do hair and beauty and are successful as some people have a natural flair for it, so good luck if you decide to do your course, let us know how you get on x

as far as asking if it was possible to do both then people can be sucessful in anything that they put their mind to with hard work anything is possible.

i think the original post was bound to get to people, the first post just came across as vey arrogant in all honesty. people spend atleast 3years (that's just 3 nqv levels) training to be good (to be more than good at something it takes lots and lots of practise and time) at hairdressing and somebody comes along and thinks that by doing an nvq level2 that that's enough to be good enough to actually make something of it.

in all honesty how on earth can you have a natural flair for hairdressing? a passion for it yes, a passion to learn yes but a natural ability to know how to apply hair dyes and what colour to apply in a safe way? no, that's something you LEARN! having passion and the desire to learn is fabulous and should def be built upon, but that's not a flair.
x

 

[ELJ-11]

Did you go for it? I'm trained in beauty and thinking of branching into hair too I'm mobile atm but don't know if I fancy doing hair mobile so would probably work as a stylist part time and continue beauty mobile part time...

 

[Pinkbunny28]

I'm looking into doing this too. How did you get it for 850? I've been looking into it and they told me I have to pay full whack bcs I can't get it funded by the government? Is that what it is then? Also what about if you have your own salon you employ a stylist to give u an apprenticeship?

 

[sarahpoppy24]

Hello, I dont know what its like for beauty as I only do hair and nails, but this is my experience with the two. With nails, I came straight out of college (I did have the most amazing tutor who is a geek on here), and went straight into doing clients, with nails when you do say a day cource, then you get a new technique, eg, do a minx day, you can now offer minx. With hair it is not like that AT ALL, hair is much, much harder, you cant just do college and come out a good hairdresser, it takes years of experience, further education, salon work before you are any good. NVQ level 2 is so so basic, its literaly the most basic cuts and colours, eg applying a full head of tint, cutting one length and basic layered cuts. It wont teach you about any fashion techniques, colour corrections, or anything complex, plus to move on to the level three you will need salon experience with most colleges. I would say go for it, as you have to start somewhere and level 2 is the place to start and to get qualified. I would also employ an experienced hairdresser in your salon, so you can be like her apprentice as said above. Also you wont be able to charge full wack for your hairdressing until you are up to standard, that takes years, so having a hairdresser in the salon that can charge good money for their skills is a good idea, if you was thinking going down the hair route, I would defo get someone in. x

 

[kylieb]

Don't let anyone put you off just go for it! You will never know other wise.
Good Luck!

 

[Miss Sylk]

Not sure why i posted this tbh, because it is what you feel inside really.

How silly saying people dont have a natural flair for things? you can have a natural flair for things for example, if my niece painted my toe nails perfectly, id say "she has a natural flair for it" where as if they looked a bit bad id say "she will learn" some can easily......others learn!!! SIMPLES

Maybe i didnt tell you that i have done dying, cutting and styling before on friends and its come out good.

I had a natural flair for make up way before i started Beauty therapy, and that is still one of my best treatments i do.

Good to hear from those who do both

£850 is the NVQ price in my area of Norfolk. Its closest training facility to me and as i work and have a child thats perfect for me. Ive sailed through all my courses, so when i sound arrogant, which no1 has ever called me in my life, its because of that fact, thats all.

I was chatting to the hairdresser at my work the other day and thought god, cutting is a skill that takes time to perfect and then got a bit put off, she said, you will learn, i said,but can you imagine how many peoples hair gets cut uneven first? she said, same as when you did bad nails! lol shes right i guess.

 

[persianista]

I have done both, and can confirm that hair is a trade that is learnt through hours upon hours of practice. It really is nothing like beauty which is primarily knowledge based.

I can also confirm that anyone with a pulse and the ability to write your own name can pass hairdressing NVQ2. Whether you will become a competant hairdresser or not is another question entirely......

 

[Miss Sylk]

Yep, i imagined so, time is defo something that is needed to perfect cutting.

 

[xhoniebunnyx]

Hi Miss Sylk,

I'm primarily a hairdresser and have been very succussful in this industry, however it took a loooong time before I was any good. I did NVQ 2 at college and it was a waste of time for practical skill imho. The theory knowledge was fantastic but practical was too basic to start out in a salon on completion.

I did a full apprenticeship in a salon afterwards and it took me a further 2 years to qualify to a standard that was good enough to work in a salon.

I had natural ability from the start and coped well with the theory but Hairdressing is so complex, experience counts for everything. I have been hairdressing for 9 years, at a very high standard (worked in london, done red carpet hair and fashion shows etc) but still get clients who ask for things that completely throw me. There is very little forgiveness with people regarding thier hair.

I'm now qualified in a lot of beauty treatments and I can honestly say I have found it much easier to get going once I've learned a particular skill. I have made my money back from course fees quite quickly and found these particular services much easier to master. This is not the case with hairdressing. A lot of friends that just did the nvq2+3 at college could not get a job in a salon once they finished and it had been a waste of time. The college is great btw.

By all means go for it... I love it and you probably will too, but dont expect to make that £850 back for a long while. I couldn't justify charging models until I'd done the hair cut/colour 10 times over perfectly first. I'm sure you will make a great hairdresser but it will take years xxx