Long-term use of Olaplex & Colorphlex

[Megan2682]

Hi There

Apologies in advance if this is a stupid question (or has been covered before)!

Firstly, ignoring the debates about which is better (a tricky subject I know), working on the assumption that both products improve the visual health of the hair, are these treatments actually "good" for the hair? (for example, a hot blow dry might make hair look like silk, but may damage the true health of the hair over time)

What I'm asking is, regardless of how positive the effects are following these treatments, long-term, do these products actually cause damage to the hair? (I'm aware that a different answer may be applicable to different products, so please specify if required). So, if there were a parallel universe where a client were to have a treatment once a month, 2 years down the line would they find their hair in better condition, the same, or in worse condition, when compared to the same client that didn't use these treatments at all (assuming everything else they did to their hair was the same)?

I want to know if I can recommend these treatments and hand on my heart say "there are no negative effect to your hair when using these products"

I'm really interested in knowing what you guys think

 

[ELLE BELLA]

I have some customers that swear by olaplex and say it has improved the overall condition of their hair .
Some who didn't notice any difference
At all .
When I first got it I tried it on myself as a stand alone treatment, and I didn't like it as it seemed to leave a residue on my hair ( thick wavy ) .
I seem to have better results when used with bleaching rather than tint

 

[AcidPerm]

2 years? Presumably that depends on how often they cut their hair.

Olaplex isn't a conditioner so you won't feel much of a difference from the outside but the hair should be stronger as it repairs the broken bonds within the cortex.

 

[Fabby]

colorphlex is a deep conditioner, it may buildup over time and even effect the absorption of colour, olaplex is a bond multiplier, it relinks singular sulphur bonds making them back into disulphide bonds, which make up the hairs structure. colorphlex will coat the hair but not prevent any damage from happening, so it feels nice and smooth but will break if lightened. olaplex does the opposite, it is repairing the bonds only on the inside of the hair so from the outside it will not do anything, it does not leave any residue, you are meant to clarify the treatment out of the hair afterwards with a strong sulphate shampoo. it's not a leave-in conditioner, it's not a deep conditioner or a mask, its a chemical treatment, that repairs the hair permanently

 

[ELLE BELLA]

So basically anybody having olaplex wouldn't generally feel any difference to the general condition of their hair unless their hair is practically snapping off beforehand ?[emoji52]

 

[Fabby]

So basically anybody having olaplex wouldn't generally feel any difference to the general condition of their hair unless their hair is practically snapping off beforehand ?[emoji52]

no, you will feel the difference, in the sense that it will reduce the elasticity. it will not however coat the hair in a layer of silicone like the other 'bonders' do. in terms of colour, it makes them last a LOT longer. i have a client in particular, who has white(grey), asian hair, 66/44 holds for around 6 month before having to be refreshed thanks to olaplex. i find it softens the hair slighty in a good way, makes it easier to straighten out or to diffuse, when lightening, everything lifts slightly more evenly and my toners last weeks more than they would have normally. if the hair is snapping off, its too far gone and needs to go

 

[Fabby]

So basically anybody having olaplex wouldn't generally feel any difference to the general condition of their hair unless their hair is practically snapping off beforehand ?[emoji52]

people who have course hair in the sense that the cuticle layer is roughed up or they have dry or brittle hair due to reasons not chemcial based, will not see or feel ay difference. dry hair is moisture, brittle hair can(but not always, sometimes it is colour, olaplex will fix this) caused by a lack of protein, after using olaplex at the shampoo bowl, you need to wash it out, and follow with a moisture and or protien treatment. generally, a 2 in 1 for tinted hair, moisture alone generally does it for virign hair and protein alone for lightened hair, though use your proffesional judgement

 

[Megan2682]

So based on what you've said I can conclude that at worst clients might not experience a big difference, but at best, if a client uses it and decides to incorporate it into their list of regular treatments, it's not going to cause additional breakage after continued use (like a silcone conditioner might)?

 

[Fabby]

So based on what you've said I can conclude that at worst clients might not experience a big difference, but at best, if a client uses it and decides to incorporate it into their list of regular treatments, it's not going to cause additional breakage after continued use (like a silcone conditioner might)?

exactily, olaplex will never cause damage ever

 

[Megan2682]

Does anyone know if this is the, same for colorphlex (as far as damage goes)?

 

[Fabby]

Does anyone know if this is the, same for colorphlex (as far as damage goes)?

colourphlex is a deep conditioner, it has no special properties that make it stand out, i do belive it contains silicones which as you rightly said, can buildup and cause further damamage over time when abused.
here is why olaplex is the ONLY bond multiplier


I want to make sure you and everyone seeing this understands some things. And I want stylists to know the truth since there are many either misconceptions or flat out lies that I am reading about Olaplex, so as a Chemist, I want to make it clear what Olaplex does.

1. Olaplex has never changed their formulation. They changed the usage amounts last year, since they found you could use less Olaplex and still get the same great results.
2. Olaplex is the ONLY bond multiplier on the market, no other company has this technology since Olaplex and only Olaplex owns the Patent on a Bond Multiplier System. No other company can make a bond multiplier until Olaplex's patent runs out.
3. All other companies that tell you their product repairs the bonds back together are misleading you and down right lying to you. Salt and Hydrogen bonds come back together automatically, when either the hair dries or when the pH comes back to 4.5 to 5.5- automatically, without doing or using ANYTHING. Only disulfide bonds do not, and Olaplex's chemistry is the ONLY one that reforms the disulfide bonds back since they make the product, own the patent, and will own the patent until it runs out
. 4. With Olaplex's new instructions, you do NOT have to use a higher developer, you just use 1/16oz. of Olaplex in Lightener and keep your developer right where you want it.
5. You will not "FEEL" Olaplex, it works internally in the Cortical fibers of the hair, repairing the broken disulfide bonds, creating new bonds, which prevents the hair from creating a sulfate group known as SO3, which is what will start to eat the protein out of the hair, making the hair weak. Have you ever felt slimy hair? Those are the disulfide bonds destroyed, making the hair mushy, this is what Olaplex works to prevent. If you want that conditioned feeling, use a deep conditioner after you rinse, shampoo the #2 Olaplex off.
6. All the other companies ALL OF YOU are mentioning, are making deep conditioners, NOT Bond Multipliers, big, huge, difference! I'm not asking you to fully understand the technology and the chemistry of Olaplex, but please understand the difference between a deep conditioner that makes the cuticles layers lay down, adds some protein versus Olaplex's Bis-Aminopropyl Diglycol Dimaleate, the one ingredient that is Olaplex which ONLY works in the Cortex to repair bonds, which prevents the SO3 from eating the protein out of the hair.
7. Olaplex's transparency is so refreshing to see and their Educational Team is awesome at helping all of you understand how & why to use this great product. I wish I had invented this, it does what it says it does. I recommend and use Olaplex in ALL my chemical services. The idea that you are supposed to "FEEL" anything is absurd that is NOT how it works and all of you liking a product that is making the hair feel better, go ahead and use it but it's not repairing anything, it is NOT repairing broken disulfide bonds. I'd much rather the hair be technically strong, so I can do my chemical work knowing that if I have to push the hair a little bit, say in a color correction, I will not be hurting hair.
8. Most stylists, I find, do not understand the chemistry behind it and really comes down to the point of why stopping the SO3 sulfate group is so very, very important, it's what causes hair damage and now with Olaplex we, you, can stop this type of damage that just a few years ago we didn't have this technology.
9. Please educate yourselves, become better stylists than what you were a few years ago. Totally new chemistry doesn't come out every often. Olaplex has 8 World Patents, and with patents, you have to PROVE they work. Olaplex has proven itself 8 times. -Mags Kavanaugh AskMags.com, a Stylists 911

 

[Joanna Mihajlova]

Hi i found this post really helpful and edicational. I am not a professional hair stylist but I have at home the Olaplex salon system and I use it like a standing alone treatment once a week and every time when i lighten my hair and I definately confirm that i feel the difference in my hair. I dont wash out Number 2 every time when i use it (it is look like it is wrong, but i hope is not so much bad ) yes i feel it heavy on my hair but just wash it out the day after and i feel my hair really nice.

Any way i have question about Olaplex and these deep conditioners : is it possible if these deep conditioners are builded up on to the hair to reduce or even to prevent Olaplex to work properly on the hair?