nails and eczema

[softpeach]

hi geeks, i will get straight to the point, a new client wants a full set of gels nails,s but her hands and nails are a real mess, her skin around the cuticle is dry and flaky and her hands are so dry that they bleed, her natural nails look weak and thin and she has never had nail extensions before.she has told me that she does not look after her skin much she applies ex ma cream on her hands and thats it
I don't want to lose a client but i'm not sure if the gels would lift after a few days, would it be better to offer a course of manicures with a wax dip and heated mitts and solar oil to be put on every day and some some natural nail care ie; the toma nail mask from creative, i would appreciate any advice many thanks xxxxx:lol:

 

[the_naildude]

Hello Peach...how are ya?

This is truly ironic because I also have a client who has a real bad case of eczema and wanted to try enhancements.

My advice is to have her first go and see a doctor/dermatologist to analyse her condition. Remember, we are NAIL TECHNICIANS, not doctors, and we want to offer our clients the best possible service, even if our suggestions are not what they want to hear.

My client did just that (went to the doctor) and that, coupled with some moisturizing manicures (I use Manicure by OPI and Creative Solar Manicure for those with dry skin and cuticles) with paraffin dips over the course of about 3-4 months.

Now she CAN wear enhancements, but I restrict her services to gels (they don't seem to irritate her skin nearly as much as acrylic) and even fiberglass/silk wraps for her natural nails whenever her eczema flares up from time to time.

But my advice is to FIRST....refer her to a doctor and together, I think all three of you can come up with a perfect solution!!!!!!!!!! I hope this helps darling!!!!!

 

[softpeach]

thank you so much for the reply, my client said she has been to see her doctor and he has said that the nhs would give her a course of wax treatments to give moisture, its such a shame but she is not looking after her skin very much, i just hope that if i apply gels she looks after them :lol: x​

 

[wizz]

Hey Peach.

I have a client who comes to me for enhancements because her exema goes in her nails.

Her doctor has told her that he thinks nails are a good idea, because it gives them rest and it looks pretty

She came in on friday and her hands were so bad I actually considered not putting any on her, but my previous client that day was a skin specialist (doctor), she examied the hands and gave me the go ahead.

She told me that as long as there are no infections but ONLY exema, putting on nails would not only be ok but she would recomend it because most women are very embarresed and feel very unpretty when their hands are badly infected with exema. Having nails on makes them feel a little better, and the nails are not as sharp when they scatch and so it will not be as bad for the skin!

Go figure

 

[Scratchers]

What about soriosis (really can't spell that sorry spelt it how i say it) would that be the same?

 

[wizz]

Can't spell that either :lol:

But yea the doctor said that too... especially that kind of exema tends to go in the nails and can make them very bulky and lumpy to look at, and something like a soft custom blended (one that is slightly transparent'ish) would make them much more flattering to look at.

Just so no one misunderstands this is what the skindoctor (or what ever the english term is ) said!

 

[Scratchers]

I just wondered as my client has it really bad and she said her doctor said it was fine her hands have been much better since i think as she is looking after them more x

 

[wizz]

I just wondered as my client has it really bad and she said her doctor said it was fine her hands have been much better since i think as she is looking after them more x

I don't think we should be so reluctant to do nails on exema paitient, though we all only do it out of concern for the client and because we are and want to be pro's and not make desisions on something we know nothing about!
And that is def. a positive reason... better safe than sorry!

But the skindoctor asured me that I could put nails on any exema as long as that is what the client wants. The exema is in the skin (dermis/epidermis) NOT the nail, I was told. And since the monomer does not (cannot) seep through the nail and agitate the skin, there is nothing to think about (HER WORDS)

My client sometimes get so sore hands that she has to have her nails off, but that is because of pain, and her exema actually flares up!

 

[Scratchers]

I know my clients is literaly covered her hands the only part of her hands that is not covered is her nails but as said before natural nails are sharper than enhancements so i think it stops her from scratching so much!! it makes her feel more confident about her hands aswell people focus on the nail rather than her skin x

 

[wizz]

I know my clients is literaly covered her hands the only part of her hands that is not covered is her nails but as said before natural nails are sharper than enhancements so i think it stops her from scratching so much!! it makes her feel more confident about her hands aswell people focus on the nail rather than her skin x

Poor thing, think about how painfull it must be, and how consious she is about it

I have never had really bad exema and it's never gone in my nails, but I do suffer from eema between the fingers, and inside the joints on arms and legs, and LOVE scratching with my nails, cause it stops itching but I don't start bleeding, and the exema does not get agitated!

 

[Scratchers]

I'm really lucky i've never suffered from it but i have all the sympathy in the world for everyone that does as not only does it not look pretty it is so irritating!!

 

[wizz]

I've had it really bad over most of my body in periods since I was a baby... especially on my face. I get soooo moody when I get bad atacks. It's pure torture, and water is like fire on the skin. I've never even had the energy to think about how it looked, though I have had people ask me if the blodges on the sides of my mouth was herpes....

So if I can help I'll def do it

 

[Scratchers]

No way!! how rude is that? i would have kissed her on the lips and said yes it is lol, what a cheek! ..... thanks hun you've already been a massive help xXx

 

[sam1]

I had a client with excema and when she had her nails on it reduced the damage she did to herself.She would scratch in her sleep and her natural nails would shred her skin but her acrylics didn't.

 

[pinkmummy]

I had a client with excema and when she had her nails on it reduced the damage she did to herself.She would scratch in her sleep and her natural nails would shred her skin but her acrylics didn't.

I agree, I've battled with excema for many years.
The main advice I can give is, if the excema is weeping or fluid in any way, get your client to apply her cream as a barrier when you are filing. That way the dust will not get stuck in the sensitive areas. You could even use some finger wrap as extra protection. That's what I have to do on two of my fingers, otherwise I think I would have been over sensitized by now.

 

[wizz]

No way!! how rude is that? i would have kissed her on the lips and said yes it is lol, what a cheek! ..... thanks hun you've already been a massive help xXx

´LOL:lol: I'll remember that for next time someone asks. I'd love to dee the reaction.

You are so welcome...

and great tip pinkmummy! I always let people wash their hands as much as they want to get the dust off. It slows the treament some, but so what really!