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Hols_21

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Hi guys,
I just wondered if anyone could help me! I've currently just started renting a room within a hairdressers 3 days a week. The days I am not in, I'm finding my own clients are texting me all the time asking to book in, and I'm having to say to them oh I will have to wait and check when I go in next week ect. Now I could phone the salon to get the stylists to book it in, but none of them know about any of the treatments, timings ect! So I have asked the owner if I can put my own personal number on the price lists and advertising ect so that I can keep the app book at all times and manage the bookings myself. He doesn't seem happy about this as he says they are his clients as i have to keep their salon name and logo. But I don't see a problem as I am self employed anyway and paying for all my own advertising, products ect!
 
Would you consider doing on line bookings? If you sign up with wahanda they will put a book now widget on your fb page and website and only take 20p for each widget booking. They take 20% for bookings through wahanda but since I joined, the majority are bookings that come through my website so doesn't cost much at all and also puts work your way.
 
I'm not too familia with computer systems and bookings ect as have always done it the old fashioned way by hand in a diary! As they have a system like that for the hair and I said I would just prefer what I'm used to. I just feel a bit like he's treating me more like an employee with him saying they are his clients ect, it shouldn't make a difference to him whether I have 2 clients a day or 20 clients as he's still getting my rent each week!?
 
If you are self employed and renting the room from him then they are your clients not his. X
 
It's your business therefore your diary so you can take it where you like. You work for yourself not for him. However if he insists then get a copy of your price list write all the timings on it, leave it at the salon near the phone and tell your clients they have to ring the salon to book. He prob won't like his hairdressing staff having to take all your calls either but he can't have it both ways. Point out each option to him and get him to choose.
 
That's what I thought as I'm sorting everything myself they are my clients! Well I will have another word with him this week and if he's still not happy then I'm going to say 'look I went into this thinking I was running and managing my own business ect so it's not working out!' As there's lots of other things he's said as in 'u need to be here set times ect' well again if I'm self employed shouldn't this be my choice about the hours?!
 
Yep! Totally your choice on your hours. Having said that, it is good to be there sometimes even when not busy, walk ins and someone having hair done may want a quick brow wax etc and when they experience how fab you are they'll become a regular!
 
I rent a room in a hairdressers hun and I'm in charge of my own hours and bookings and Sarah who I rent the room off only has my appointment book when I'm on holiday or away for a weekend so she an book in things for me and I've wrote all my timings next to the treatments on my price list. Your self employed so there your clients x
 
That's exactly what I want to do just manage everything myself unless I'm on holiday ect! I've had a poster designed and I've been told I'm not allowed to put it up because it looks like I'm advertising a separate business! He said I've got to have his logo at the top and just name my leaflets 'beauty price list' I just feel like I'm being treated like I'm working for him! I've put my mobile number on now so people can directly speak and book with me, yet someone phoned the salon today and without checking with me first he's gone and booked someone in on a certain day and I'm already full! And he didn't get their contact number so I'm screwed! Why on earth can't he just say 'the beautician only works thurs/fri/sat so let me take your number and get her to call you back!!!! X
 
Hi @Hols_21 - excuse my ignorance, but it sounds like you have a good number of loyal customers, could you not forget work at the salon completely and go mobile? Then once you've built up an even bigger client list, you could even look into your own premises? Although I'm guessing equipment etc could be an issue to start with? :)
 
Print out these guidelines issued by HMRC and show them to the Salon Owner.

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/manuals/vtaxpermanual/vtaxper69100.htm

HMRC guidelines Self employed?

VTAXPER69100 - Particular trades: Hairdressing: Guidelines agreed with the National Federation of Hairdressers

[Important note: Not all of the guidelines have to be met in any given situation. They remain what they are called, guidelines. They are indicators of the type of relationship that exists and some (like employment status of the stylists; the agreement between the parties - whether spoken or written, and the way the money/takings are handled) will carry more weight than others. In any event, you should always read them in conjunction with the foregoing guidance on hairdressing, in particular VTAXPER68600.]

Intent and general principles

To establish a business relationship other than that of employer and employee with the intent by the parties concerned to control their own actions and destiny through observance of the following basic principles:

each party to have ultimate command and authority over all aspects of their respective business or enterprise, and to be readily identified as having such authority;
each party to be responsible for the finances of their respective business or enterprise, and to reap the rewards and losses arising therefrom;
neither party to be solely obligated to - or rely or depend upon - the decisions of the other.


Guidelines

These guidelines support the above and will be used as a means of interpreting the intentions and principles of the parties concerned against their established working practises and procedures. The Guidelines are not exclusive but are indicators of the type of relationship that exists.

1. Status
The independent contractor (the Contractor) within a salon should be self-employed. An employee cannot establish an independent business within the establishment of the employer.
The business or enterprise of the Contractor should be independent of, and separate to, that of the salon and:
maintain its own books and accounting records;
be responsible for its own taxation affairs, health and safety procedures;
attend to its own insurance requirements, including public liability insurance;
be capable of suffering losses (negative profit) as well as enjoying profits;
have complete freedom to establish its own price structure and times of opening (including closure for holidays);
purchase consumables and products from any source, and sell any product range;
be able to compete openly for clients both inside and outside the salon, and to accept or reject clients at will;
be free to appoint locum tenens as the need arises;
be free of restrictions about the sale, disposal or relocation of the business;
display a notice giving the name of the Contractor and address at which documents may be served as required by Section 4 of the Business Names Act 1985;
respond to actions brought against it by third parties;
have its own stationary for business letters, written orders, invoices and receipts.

2. Access
Ideally, there would be separate access to that part of the salon in which the business of the Contractor is situated.
The Contractor to have access to their business at all times and have the ability to be open for custom at any time of their choice.

3. Clients
The clients should be in direct contract with the Contractor and be fully aware of this fact.
Complaints and claims from clients of the Contractor should be directed to the Contractor and not the salon.
Separate appointments (where applicable) should be maintained by or for the Contractor.
Casual clients entering the salon should themselves choose whether to patronise the Contractor or salon, and should have sufficient information to make such a choice based on:
the name(s) and possibly portraits, displayed in the reception area;
an identifiable list of specialities and price lists displayed in the reception area for each Contractor;
the times to wait before receiving attention.
The details, records, and addresses of clients who receive attention from the Contractor to be the property of the Contractor.

4. Money
The money received from clients attended by the Contractor to be the property of the Contractor, whether or not it is taken centrally.
Money collected centrally should either be handed over to the Contractor or paid into an account held in the name of the Contractor.
Money held for and on behalf of the Contractor, and the salon holding such funds should account to the Contractor for those funds.

5. Salon environment
The salon should not exercise control over the Contractor, or impose upon the Contractor codes or standards relating to hygiene or behaviour unless applied equally against all parties with observance measured by an independent authority or peer pressure. Safety regulations imposed on the Contractor by the salon should be no more than that required to comply with current legislation.
The Contractor to be responsible for the conduct, appearance and presentation of the Contractor’s enterprise, and in particular for behaviour, hygiene and safety matters relating to, or arising from, the Contractor’s activities.
There should be clear agreements in respect of services provided by the salon including:
the provision of telephone, heat, light and water;
available accommodation for clients;
reception, appointment booking and cash handling facilities;
use of salon personnel for specific duties and the control and discipline arrangements for such personnel;
use and availability of furniture, fittings and equipment;
laundry services;
marketing and promotion of hairdressing services;
cleaning and washing of floors and equipment;
access and security;
the amount to be paid by way of rent for use of space;
the amount to be paid for use of services, cleaning and maintenance of communal areas or how such charge is to be calculated.

6. Agreement
There should be a clear agreement in writing between the salon and the Contractor that accurately reflects actual working practice.
There should be a clear statement in respect of the term of the agreement, and the obligations and responsibilities of the parties on termination, notice required on termination and where that notice is to be served.
That VAT is to be levied (when applicable) on the charge paid by the Contractor for the services provided by the salon.
The Contractor is responsible for insuring the enterprise against public and product liabilities, losses that could arise as a result of theft, fire, storm, accidental damage etc, and statutory cover in respect of staff retained by the enterprise.
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Definition
Independent Contractor - a self employed person who provides an independent hairdressing and/or beauty therapy service to the general public from within a salon owned and operated by another person or company.
 
Thank u I will show him! I did consider mobile as I do have all my own equipment, it's just the fath of transporting and moving everything around! But I'm going to carry on for a few more weeks and if things are still the same, go mobile! X
 

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