Acrylic yellowing nightmare with NSI or Ezflow!?

[Miss Sylk]

Im trailing nsi attraction and ez flow hi def. at moment, cant seem to decide between them both, they are both streets ahead from what i have used in the past. Both are top brands and reputable companies. I think i was siding more towards nsi because they are cheaper and because i get a little peeling with ez flow when filing (180/240) the shape in, as if the acrylic isnt set yet on after putting on all 10 fingers!?

Anyway the major issue is one of my clients nails have gone yellow!! i remember when i was putting it on i saw a slight yellow tinge and prayed it was just slight and wouldnt get worse. But she has called and ill have to sort them.

I think i used the nsi kit, im stupid for not writing it down i know. They are brand new samples from the suppliers that i have had open about 2months? what on earth have they gone yellow for? these are top quality brands.

Has anyone using these brands ever had this problem? What can cause it?

 

[Miss Sylk]

It was NSI, my clients said she remembers it was a small white bottle instead of ez flow's brown bottle. Gutted, thought i had made my mind up on nsi.

 

[NoLimitNails]

And you are sure it was not your brush???? Or maybe wrong mixratio could be the answer, sorry I'm not able to help you more, but as a CND tech I haven't really tried anything else:o

 

[gemsie1983]

Have you been using the same brush with both monomers, if yes this could be your problem as it may be contaminated.

Otherwise you could be working too wet x

 

[mizzy_dizzy]

You cant really blame the product if your not sure/ trained how to use it , maybe the yellowing is contamination from something you have done? Maybe your brush?
Your client rembers the bottle? Did you use a dappen dish ?
Or could they have turned yellow after? Maybe your client squeeze's her tea bags? Died her hair , had a spray tan or a curry or wore red polish with out a base coat?
I am not trying to be mean but I don't think you should decide on your chosen brand only by this ,
Maybe go to a conversion class for the brands and learn how to use them the way there meant?
You might find the prob that you had with ezyflo works its self out to, it might not be the product at fault?

 

[Miss Sylk]

Have you been using the same brush with both monomers, if yes this could be your problem as it may be contaminated.

Otherwise you could be working too wet x

I have been using them both for months with no issue, do you really think mix ratio could cause yellowing?

I always clean with acetone, my brush shouldnt be contaminated.

hmm....

 

[mrsnails]

Clean what with acetone???

If its your brush your cleaning with acetone I would say that is maybe whats causing the yellowing, as the brush would be contaminated with acetone.

I was taught to always,always, clean my brush in monomer to prevent brush contamination, also if you dont clean your brush throughly enough then when you use it again it will turn the new product yellow.

hth

 

[Miss Sylk]

ok it might be this then. Although its never done it before. But its a good point. Thanks, ill give it a go and see what happens. x

 

[Rise' Carter]

The number one reason why any acrylic might yellow is brush contamination.
First of all, have a dedicated brush for each system you are using. Clean your brush in either monomer or brush cleaner, roll in a paper towel and lay flat in a drawer. You don't want to store your brush in a cup with the hairs pointing upward, this allows the monomer to drain down into the ferrule of the brush, then when you go to use the brush, you have old inert material going back into the brush hairs and contaminating the monomer. Use fresh monomer for every other client in a dappen dish. I suggest the NSI Royal Precision brush....it is the best I have ever used.
Good luck, this should remedy your problem.

FYI
Do not use acetone to clean your brush, it is very drying and leaves a residue on your brush....only good quality brush cleaner or monomer.

 

[Miss Sylk]

The number one reason why any acrylic might yellow is brush contamination.
First of all, have a dedicated brush for each system you are using. Clean your brush in either monomer or brush cleaner, roll in a paper towel and lay flat in a drawer. You don't want to store your brush in a cup with the hairs pointing upward, this allows the monomer to drain down into the ferrule of the brush, then when you go to use the brush, you have old inert material going back into the brush hairs and contaminating the monomer. Use fresh monomer for every other client in a dappen dish. I suggest the NSI Royal Precision brush....it is the best I have ever used.
Good luck, this should remedy your problem.

Yep, no more acetone then. Ive never used monomer to clean i will do now, thanks.

 

[leahlicious]

Hi im doing a nail course at the moment with a lady whos family run nsi and she told me if your client is using bleach or any other cleaning products it can make the nail plate go yellow , or if u are not using glaze and glow the nail will become disco-loured and you should warn your client to wear gloves when cleaning or it will discolor and weaken her nails so then your backs covered when she wants them redone because you warned her , hope this helped leah xxx

 

[geeg]

Im trailing nsi attraction and ez flow hi def. at moment, cant seem to decide between them both, they are both streets ahead from what i have used in the past. Both are top brands and reputable companies. I think i was siding more towards nsi because they are cheaper and because i get a little peeling with ez flow when filing (180/240) the shape in, as if the acrylic isnt set yet on after putting on all 10 fingers!?

Anyway the major issue is one of my clients nails have gone yellow!! i remember when i was putting it on i saw a slight yellow tinge and prayed it was just slight and wouldnt get worse. But she has called and ill have to sort them.

I think i used the nsi kit, im stupid for not writing it down i know. They are brand new samples from the suppliers that i have had open about 2months? what on earth have they gone yellow for? these are top quality brands.

Has anyone using these brands ever had this problem? What can cause it?

All the clues as to why you are seeing yellowing are right here in this post.

The fact that you saw a yellow tinge as soon as you applied shows right there that it is your brush that is contaminated, so it is now kaput.

The clues as to how it happened are also obvious, to me anyway: you have been using the same brush in two different monomers (which is something you should never do) and also cleaning your brush in Acetone (which is also a no no). There could also be other mitigating circumstances and your mix ratio is not one of them.

Hey, Rise ... How are you? Your answer screams that your training was from CND!! :biggrin: Hope you are doing well. X

 

[Wooshka]

I have used NSI attraction/acrylic products for many many years now and I know many techs who do as well and I can say that not once ever have I ever had it turn yellow (with or without using Glaze n Go).

As Geeg said, it is clearly a case of brush contamination, especially if you have been using acetone to clean your brush and then add the fact you are using the one brush on different systems......this kind of thing will contaminate your brush for sure.

This is just my personal thoughts but I even reckon brush cleaners contaminate your brush and this is why I have only ever used clean monomer and always will.
There was only 2 times I used a brush cleaner and both times my brush felt awful afterward and it just didn't work right until after a few cleans back with monomer.

The best thing you could do is give your brush a really good clean with monomer (I think on here somewhere is a thread that explains how to do this or it might be in the tutorial section) and see how it performs, if you are still getting yellowing, then buy a new brush and start afresh only ever using monomer.

I can only speak for NSI Attraction when I say that not once I have ever known it to yellow, so it's not the product, it's definitely brush contamination.

 

[beauty_girl]

Hi All

I have posted about this before and I know this is an old thread but at college we started with NSI and are now using a different brand (not sure why and I dont agree with it) but does this mean that my brush might be ruined if I swap between monomers such as this other brand to NSI, that my brush may get ruined. I have already forked out for another brush as my original got damaged so dont want to fork out for another one because of this monomer problem. If it does happen, becuase I havent tried it yet (I am due to buy some NSI monomer since using the other brands monomer), can I get in touch with NSI?

Thanks for your help. Im really annoyed at it tbh

 

[geeg]

To avoid contamination of your brush you should use a new brush if using a new monomer and you should only clean it im that momomer. It is clearly stated above. Every chemist in the industry advises to do this so you ignore that advice at your own risk.

 

[Miss Sylk]

oh my word this is an old thread of mine lol

I was very stupid back then using acetone to wash my brushes!! tut tut! how much i have learned since then and thanks to salon geeks.

Nsi and ezflow are great btw! and ive never swapped brushes going between brands and ive been fine, thats just my input on your question xx

 

[beauty_girl]

Thanks Geeg and Miss Sylk. I just wanted to clarify.

I have decided to take my own NSI stuff into college and keep an eye on my stuff because we were told that we were using NSI then swapped halfway through! Iv just bought Attraction monomer so I can continue practising with the best after advice on here. Il try not to worry too much about my acrylic brush because its ok at min. That's also why its good to use the search button too cos that's how I found this!! Thanks. I love SG! I won't be using substandard monomer at collehe now!

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