Any semi permanent makeup therapists on here?

[LieLash]

Hi
Having had semi permanent makeup done on myself it's definitely an area I would like to train in.
I'm interested to know if therapists actually make good money out of this ( although I'm sure we all love what we do - however we don't work for free)
So I'm wondering whether the costly training prices are actually worth it and whether you can see a quick return on your investment.
I'm guessing it also depends on the area you live in too, and I'm also wondering if people have the money to pay for this treatment as it seems a lit of my clients struggle to find £ 20 for nails - although I appreciate you will be attracting a different clientele
Any feed back would be greatly appreciated!

 

[mini4mum]

Try the Nouveau group as I know they offer training etc. They have a FB page too. HTH.

 

[LieLash]

Anyone else????

 

[heatherp]

I'm having SP done on my eyebrows on Tuesday and as soon as I started mentioning it to my clients alot of them wanted to get involved too, so I now have 6 clients booked in for it with me on Tuesday.

It is a fair bit of money but I do think there is a market out there and if it were me, I would contact salons in your area with a view to going into their salons to carry out the treatment, giving them a cut which would increase your potential.

The main thing I would say is that I've been wanting this done for a long time and hadn't seen anyone with SP that I particularly liked until I had a new client who had just had it done and I really liked the way it was done so got in touch with the salon that had carried it out. For me I needed a recommendation so I think alot of this type of work may depend on this.

H xx

 

[TheresaW]

Hi There,

Nouveau Contour Training is very good and it's reputation speaks volumes, do not go cheap with your training! You will end up (like me) spending a fortune to do extra and advanced training courses. :sad:

You also need to look at other types of marketing - social media marketing is amazing and you can post your introductory offers on the local groups. I also had my website set up quickly and did my own search engine marketing - as that is my other job...

I wouldn't spend money on any advertising in magazines - I spent over £800 last year to gain business for the christmas period and the result was zero clients through that advertising. I also did an exhibition, that cost over £500 and that probably gave me one client maybe?

Yes contacting salons is a great idea, armed with business cards, price lists etc...having a great website is very important too to showcase your work...

Good luck xx

 

[LieLash]

Hi There,

Nouveau Contour Training is very good and it's reputation speaks volumes, do not go cheap with your training! You will end up (like me) spending a fortune to do extra and advanced training courses. :sad:

You also need to look at other types of marketing - social media marketing is amazing and you can post your introductory offers on the local groups. I also had my website set up quickly and did my own search engine marketing - as that is my other job...

I wouldn't spend money on any advertising in magazines - I spent over £800 last year to gain business for the christmas period and the result was zero clients through that advertising. I also did an exhibition, that cost over £500 and that probably gave me one client maybe?

Yes contacting salons is a great idea, armed with business cards, price lists etc...having a great website is very important too to showcase your work...

Good luck xx

Are you busy with it, do you think it was worth while doing it? X

 

[JMABEAUTY]

I too looked into this and it was around 12-15k but that was just to get started, I echo what the person said about being thick skinned, even if you are great at managing Clients expectations, it can be really hard.

I looked at it like being on L plates then passing your test, it takes years to become good.

Training companies were saying what a good career, but calling around to genuine people I was told they were not that busy, and that companies push to train then sell you equipment & products.

I got my eyebrows done by Heidi Worman, (she is brilliant) she now comes into the salon and we make good commission, she is not a therapist, just a specialist, she does no other treatments.

She can take all expectations and other stuff from the clients, we found this the best way.

Thank you,

 

[CARMS]

If any of you would like more information then please PM ... I sure I can help you.


Kind Regards

 

[Topsi]

I think like anything it takes time to build up clients. Once you have treated someone they need to come back in a year to 18 months for a refresh treatment. I think this is the point you will become busy. I have picked up clients from someone who is retiring. This is a nice way to start as you tend to just be doing top up treatments on them which is easy as you are just copying what someone else has done. Also the clients know what to expect etc.
It is a difficult treatment to do so don't enter into it lightly or you will waste loads of money.

 

[skingeek78]

Have you sorted out training? I have to completely agree with TheresaW with regard to being very, very careful who you train with. I have done training with a few companies and you will end up paying out so much more if your initial training isn't up to standard.

I first trained with a company that although look good and seemed like they would be the ideal choice, it turned out that the training I received was definitely not ideal. I ended up finishing it elsewhere as I really couldn't face going back which is so bad.

It was hard to get clear advice when I was looking as it can be quite a closed industry but I wish that I had some more guidance initially and that my start had not been so awful. Unfortunately I have met other technicians who have had a similar experience :-( Thankfully I found other companies that offered me great training with experienced trainers over the years to help me develop skills.

It is very much worth doing if you are prepared to work hard for it, I love my job but it isn't always easy. Also don't expect to pay for your initial training and thats it. Don't go training on the cheap or without speaking to other technicians who have trained with a company first (my mistake) and you will need to do more than basic training, it takes a while to get good and a good technician doesn't pretend they are an expert who knows everything, although plenty do :-/ whilst it is good to have confidence in your ability humility is important and remember that it is a constant learning process. I invested in my training and continue to do so by keeping up to date with developments within the industry.
I didn't train with Nouveau but I have heard good things from several technicians who have.
Finishing Touches is a very good company too as is Dawn Cragg and Long Time Liner in Germany.

I hope this helps you or someone else looking to train. ♥

 

[Kim Lawless]

I think to make a good living at it you need to specialise in it as Heidi Worman and Claire Hobson do. I think I'm correct in saying that they do it full time and have a great reputation so can charge a good price as their work is fab.

Nouveau are great and I trained with Finishing Touches who are also brilliant and at the top of their tree. HTH's

 

[skingeek78]

I agree that Finishing Touches are really very good and that it's best to specialise too, the more you do it the better you are likely to get and the better you get the more likely you can make good money. Good training is so important and is the start. Those you have mentioned Kim Lawless are very good and have taken time to get there. There are a some really good specialists in the UK that have taken the time to invest in training to gain knowledge, experience, have a sound background and dedicate themselves to their craft, in most places in Europe you need to qualify as an aesthetician (3 years or 2500 hours) then specialise in micropigmentation, I think this extra knowledge certainly can help too. I know an excellent specialist who took time out and studied traditional tattooing, she is really exceptionally good. I see it as a process that takes years to gain skills rather than the add on easy money spinner treatment that is sometimes portrayed to be.

I personally carry out skin treatments a few times a month for my clients, I do this because I can improve my clients skin and better skin = better treatment outcome. it doesn't fit for me doing lots of different treatments and then micropigmentation aswell and I wouldn't have time but that is my personal choice and am not going to knock those who do.

Luckily for those looking for training now that it has become more popular as a treatment and its easier to make an informed choice.

 

[pazzy]

I was going to do it in 1999 but never got round to it (at the time it was Finishing touches, wake up with makeup, Evie Adams and a company called soft tap which was a hand tool method of application)

By 2004 I wished I had done it but still never got round to it. I did look at going to canada as this seemed to be where it originated and made plans to go.

Then when I looked at the prices and really really thought about it - I knew that the only way to ever make your investment back would be a very long, hard process and knew I wouldn't have the time to dedicate to this treatment.

So instead of me being a Jack of all - I let it go and don't regret not doing it.
I left it to those who could be dedicated to it and specialised in it. I wanted to do it for all the wrong reasons - more so out of fascination and a love of eyebrows and makeup. lol