Cuticle Remover

[amber tan]

Hi, was just wondering how many of you geeks dont use any type of cutcle remover and just remove dry.

 

[sodabubble]

not me! I use creatives cuticle eraser, what benefits are there to using nothing? I've not heard of this before, enlighten me! I wanna know! lol

 

[2littletoys]

I would always use NSI Vanish......... why remove dry? Could you even remove it effectivly without anything?

 

[hiba]

I'm still studying at the college and we have to do it dry...cuticle remover cause lifting that's what my teacher says!!:irked:

 

[Snugglepuss]

Yup I use Creative's Cuticle Eraser as well - I would have thought it would be more difficult to remove dry?? I know when I use my thumb nail on myself (tut tut naughty snuggs :lol it definitely is more difficult!

Anyhoo, best of luck with your course :hug: and remember to always question your tutor as to the reasons why they teach various methods, that way you will gain more knowledge and insight :hug:

To add

I personally have never known cuticle eraser etc causing enhancements to lift - bad prep perhaps or even cuticle left on the nail.

 

[~Emmsybabes~]

I have done both,
I used (and still do depending on client) CND cuticle remover I LOVE THIS PRODUCT,
But since converting to EZFLOW I also now dry prep,

Now I would say neither cause lifting ...
Many many techs have used cuticle remover with NO lifting whatsoever,
and many techs have used the dry prep method,

Now my way of explaining why to use the dry prep method,
(this is what I have been taught lol I havent just come up with it myself,
but these are MY words)

Is ...you apply your wet cuticle remover leave to soak....then you use a wet product to remove the remover,

The nail plate is exposed to "wetness ?" for some time,
slightly swelling the keratin cells....
This CAN lead to product breakdown...as the cells dry and shrink back together,
Now I presume this would only happen if product was applyed so quickly that the nail plate hadnt had time to dry out again,

But it obviously doesnt make a difference
as long as all product is removed the nail plates are dry, and dehydrated again, and prep work is correct,
There is no reason for lifting using any technique,

I suppose its down to personal preference,
I assess client then decide what method is appropriate

Hth
and I am happy to be corrected with anything I have said that is incorrect x

OOOOH must just mention, a GOOD quality cuticle tool is essential for dry prep (essential for any prep but more so dry I would imagine x)

 

[sodabubble]

I have done both,
I used (and still do depending on client) CND cuticle remover I LOVE THIS PRODUCT,
But since converting to EZFLOW I also now dry prep,

Now I would say neither cause lifting ...
Many many techs have used cuticle remover with NO lifting whatsoever,
and many techs have used the dry prep method,

Now my way of explaining why to use the dry prep method,
(this is what I have been taught lol I havent just come up with it myself,
but these are MY words)

Is ...you apply your wet cuticle remover leave to soak....then you use a wet product to remove the remover,

The nail plate is exposed to "wetness ?" for some time,
slightly swelling the keratin cells....
This CAN lead to product breakdown...as the cells dry and shrink back together,
Now I presume this would only happen if product was applyed so quickly that the nail plate hadnt had time to dry out again,

But it obviously doesnt make a difference
as long as all product is removed the nail plates are dry, and dehydrated again, and prep work is correct,
There is no reason for lifting using any technique,

I suppose its down to personal preference,
I assess client then decide what method is appropriate

Hth
and I am happy to be corrected with anything I have said that is incorrect x

OOOOH must just mention, a GOOD quality cuticle tool is essential for dry prep (essential for any prep but more so dry I would imagine x)

when I use creative eraser I don't use any water, is that what you all mean by 'dry'? Or do you mean use no product whatsoever?

 

[Hope]

A dry prep is when you use no product, just your tools

 

[Bagpuss]

I do both depends on the client....if they are coming regular and have no build up i find a dry prep suficiant...if they are new and haven't had any cuticle work done then i use Creative remover.

I don't get lifting either way...although with 1 client who always got lifting (no matter what i did) after a dry prep the lifting stopped.

 

[angel fingers]

wet prep when doing a new set, but dry prep for a rebalance.
i find dry prep to be sufficient when done regularly but new clients invariably have quite a build up of cuticle and this is easier to remove with a liquid to soften it first.

 

[Vanneb]

I do both depends on the client....if they are coming regular and have no build up i find a dry prep suficiant...if they are new and haven't had any cuticle work done then i use Creative remover.

Me too.....No problems so far

 

[NAIL FRENZY]

I do both too, depending on the client.

 

['chelle]

Would dry prep not scratch the nail plate and cause damage?

 

[Bagpuss]

Would dry prep not scratch the nail plate and cause damage?

You are still using the same implement so dry or wet, without care both could scratch the nail plate. You could argue that doing a wet prep prevents you from seeing if you are scratching the nail or not...with a dry prep it would be visable....??

 

['chelle]

You are still using the same implement so dry or wet, without care both could scratch the nail plate. You could argue that doing a wet prep prevents you from seeing if you are scratching the nail or not...with a dry prep it would be visable....??

I would have thought that when the cuticle is dry you would need to use more pressure to remove it thereby increasing the chances of nailplate damage, whereas with cuticle remover it softens the cuticle so that it can be removed more gently and thus less chance of causing damage???

I'm not saying whether this is or isnt the case, I'm just thinking out loud.

 

[Bagpuss]

I would have thought that when the cuticle is dry you would need to use more pressure to remove it thereby increasing the chances of nailplate damage, whereas with cuticle remover it softens the cuticle so that it can be removed more gently and thus less chance of causing damage???

I'm not saying whether this is or isnt the case, I'm just thinking out loud.

I agree it does help to soften and therefore remove the cuticle but for clients who are regular there is very little to remove, that why i tend to only use it on new clients.

 

[Sparklepink]

i dry prep
if a reg client is following your home care advice, oiling daily etc... then their cuticles should be easier to push back

I always think if you are using remover do you really remove it all before carrying on with your nail prep??
If any is left behind unknown to you... it could cause lifting problems

Jess
xox

 

[The Geek]

Dry removal of the cuticle from the plate will greatly increase the risk of leaving small bits of cuticle behind. The best way to think of this is by itching dry skin. The loose skin doesn't just 'come off', it flakes off leaving small bits of skin behind.

These small bits of skin do not always cause immediate lifting, rather more often they get between the product and the plate and cause adhesion weakness later on. Your product will generally stick to the cuticle left behind (especially Retention+ as it bonds to keratin) however the 'left behind' cuticle is only semi stuck to the plate.
If enough is left behind, you will see marginal lifting along zone 3 after about 10 days. If only a little is left behind, you may not see lifting for weeks later, or Even until the product grows out to the free edge. In essence, it doesn't cause lifting, but it greatly contributes to it.

As far as removing Cuticle Removers with water, the amount of water absorbed is really no more negligible than a client washing their hands with soap and water. This doesn't cause lifting because it is only a small amount of moisture that should be removed by your subsequent prep routine anyway.

In the end, remember that cuticle removers exist for a reason - they remove the cuticle. I have never seen one that is remotely expensive and if using one saves you 1 minute at a rebalance, it will have paid for itself 10 fold.

Just remember that your manufacturer not making one doesn't mean it isn't important

Anyhoo - HTHs!

 

[Missy G]

Hi could someone tell me the difference between the cuticle remover and the cuticle eraser,i am using ezflow doing dry removal,i am thinking of getting some removal incase someones got really bad cuticles as im getting new clients coming in at the moment,just wanted to know the difference between the two as id like to get either.
xx

 

[Bagpuss]

Hi could someone tell me the difference between the cuticle remover and the cuticle eraser,i am using ezflow doing dry removal,i am thinking of getting some removal incase someones got really bad cuticles as im getting new clients coming in at the moment,just wanted to know the difference between the two as id like to get either.
xx

Hope wrote a good piece on this....


Cuticle Eraser is a micro exfoliating cuticle cream which also hydrates the nails folds, and is a retail item. This doesn't need washing off, you can remove with Scrubfresh.

Cuticle remover is a professional strength cuticle remover and callus softener specifically designed to help efficiently remove the cuticle from the surface of the natural nail. This needs to be removed by a Citrusoak/water mix, or soap and water. It is not a retail item.