Matrix colour correction, no wonder we're confused

[tiatia22]

Matrix Now saying you need to pre pig with color sync, a few Years ago when I trained was told you could just apply over blonde hair to darken, then told when lifting out colour with bleach bath, say if you get to a level 7 orange then prepig to remove unwanted tone then if you want a 9, apply 9v with appropriate peroxide. To lift up to a 9 ??????
Then told to bleach bath on dry hair, even when slide show says on pre shampooed hair, when I asked if its always wise to use a shade lighter with there Demi's as Demi's grab, she said well you know your client and there underlying pigments etc . she then said nw good for over blonde, arnt they for extra cov I ask, yes she says, but there being discontinued now. ,........so why tell me to use them???
I give up:lick:

 

[zebra_cake]

I got told last week no need to pre pig

 

[tiatia22]

I got told last week no need to pre pig

Its crazy, I kept saying I'd come for nice formulas to apply over blonde or bleached hair without pre pigging. She said I've never heard of not pre pigging with color sync so I can't help you . what's going on?

 

[AcidPerm]

Who is your trainer?

 

[tiatia22]

Who is your trainer?

It was her first day at training, it was at Alan Howard hair & beauty warehouse, don't want her getting in bother, but think she was confused.

 

[Bri84]

I trained with matrix a few years ago and was always told no need to pre pig with colorsync aswell. X

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[KHS]

Im matrix trained snd I've never pre pigged sync, it doesn't need it

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[tiatia22]

Im matrix trained snd I've never pre pigged sync, it doesn't need it

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Do you tend to use wm, or g on there own or add n to formula, for a nice 8/9 shade its over bleach. X
And do you always use shade lighter than you want as it grabs x

 

[KHS]

Do you tend to use wm, or g on there own or add n to formula, for a nice 8/9 shade its over bleach. X
And do you always use shade lighter than you want as it grabs x

For an 8 on bleach I use a 7wn, I find the G's are a bit to Warm on bleach.

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[tiatia22]

For an 8 on bleach I use a 7wn, I find the G's are a bit to Warm on bleach.

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Yes I thought the g was very golden. So you don't need to add any n to the wn , its OK on its own? Always worried incase it goes too warm. X

 

[zebra_cake]

Wn are lovely tones

 

[tiatia22]

So wn on its own should be OK, that's great. Would you use the same level you require or go up a shade or drop lower as its over bleach
Eg required shade 8.

 

[cassies97]

So wn on its own should be OK, that's great. Would you use the same level you require or go up a shade or drop lower as its over bleach

Eg required shade 8.

You've been looking for this nice 8 shade to go over bleach for weeks now😂

 

[tiatia22]

You've been looking for this nice 8 shade to go over bleach for weeks now😂

I know lol, I was off Ill, then she can't get time off work yet to have it done. I am a stress head. X

 

[cassies97]

I know lol, I was off Ill, then she can't get time off work yet to have it done. I am a stress head. X

I'm the same don't worry about it. I think of 20 different way to get a client where they want to be then stress about which one to use.

Hope you're ok now x

 

[tiatia22]

I'm the same don't worry about it. I think of 20 different way to get a client where they want to be then stress about which one to use.

Hope you're ok now x

Thanks cams, I'm getting there, I'm so allergic to so many things and strong odours start off sinusitis, so great working in hair & beauty lol. Need to live in a bubble,:Scared: