Mini engraver vs e-file

[Led]

Hi guys,

I am relatively new to the nail industry so bear with me a little if i ask strange questions. I've started to work professionally as a nail tech last year and i use hand files to file acrylic. I was advised by a coleague that i should buy a mini engraver (it looks just like the e file and works similar) as opposed to an e file. What do y'all think about this?

Is there really a skill to the use of the e file/mini engraver or as long as i take my time and am very cautious there is nothing to it???????????? In other words, should i practice on myself and friends and family before i introduce it to my clients???????

 

[sknight]

I would advise you never to use anything other than your hand files until you have received training on an efile. I personally prefer my hand files and have no reason to change to an efile.

If you are sure that this is what you want to use then you need to spend some time looking for the right tools & training. This means RESEARCH which most hate but it's imperative i'm afraid. HTH x

 

[NoLimitNails]

I had an opportunity to try out the Young Nails e-file vs a miniengraver (my hubby had one) and actually compared to a cheap e-file off ebay aswell and NO NO NO don't even think it can replace it.

The cheap efile was sort of shaking in the end so that the bit wasn't going around evenly if that makes sense, which lead to no kontrol over how much or little was filed of. It kind of banged the material (because of the bit not rotating right) so leading to service breakdown. It could go down in speed though and that was the nicest thing to say about that.

The mini engraver was no better, infact worse, and seemed a lot harsher on the material, and not the least on the hand holding it. It shook so much that I got tired of filing just 3 nails... (I did not use this one on people just nailtrainer)

When I eventually bought the YN efile it was like comming home, no shaking in my hand, and totally control of how much product filed of.

But the key to it all was and is training. If I hadn't had training I wouldn't have known how it should feel.

And to add I didn't buy an efile until my application was really good, and I continue to compete with myself on every set, trying to reach the point of sculpting with the brush, where filing is minimal or just need to buff. In oher words my goal is to just using the file when de-bulking for a rebalance...

 

[Led]

I would advise you never to use anything other than your hand files until you have received training on an efile. I personally prefer my hand files and have no reason to change to an efile.

If you are sure that this is what you want to use then you need to spend some time looking for the right tools & training. This means RESEARCH which most hate but it's imperative i'm afraid. HTH x

Thanks a lot. Question though, how do u back fill a permanent french without an efile?
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[Led]

I had an opportunity to try out the Young Nails e-file vs a miniengraver (my hubby had one) and actually compared to a cheap e-file off ebay aswell and NO NO NO don't even think it can replace it.

The cheap efile was sort of shaking in the end so that the bit wasn't going around evenly if that makes sense, which lead to no kontrol over how much or little was filed of. It kind of banged the material (because of the bit not rotating right) so leading to service breakdown. It could go down in speed though and that was the nicest thing to say about that.

The mini engraver was no better, infact worse, and seemed a lot harsher on the material, and not the least on the hand holding it. It shook so much that I got tired of filing just 3 nails... (I did not use this one on people just nailtrainer)

When I eventually bought the YN efile it was like comming home, no shaking in my hand, and totally control of how much product filed of.

But the key to it all was and is training. If I hadn't had training I wouldn't have known how it should feel.

And to add I didn't buy an efile until my application was really good, and I continue to compete with myself on every set, trying to reach the point of sculpting with the brush, where filing is minimal or just need to buff. In oher words my goal is to just using the file when de-bulking for a rebalance...

Sounds good 2 me.thanks 4 d advice.
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[Lou-Lorena]

File off about 80% of the old product making sure you using the same fileing tecnique as you used to shape the original acrylic nail ,so that you keep the nails all the same shape, file down any lifting and blend the old product line untill invisible and apply dehydrator and primer to natural nail only ,and start to apply product again
Hope this helps!

 

[Led]

File off about 80% of the old product making sure you using the same fileing tecnique as you used to s acrylic nail ,so that you keep the nails all the same shape, file down any lifting and blend the old product line untill invisible and apply dehydrator and primer to natural nail only ,and start to apply product again
Hope this helps!

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[Led]

I was talking about back filling for french tips.when the person's nails grow out and there is like a space between the white and d pink.how would u use d hand file 2 back fill this space? Wouldn't an efile b better?
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[Carmen]

I personally use an e-file but I strongly believe that you can do the same quality and accuracy of work with a hand file. My handpiece was getting repairs for the past 4 months (agh!!!) so I worked with only my hand file and found I'm just as fast.

When I do my french fills, I shorten the f/e, thin out the product in the appropriate areas (f/e, reshape apex, etc.) and then use my product to recreate the smile line in the appropriate place. I don't think it makes a difference whether or not you have an e-file to do this.

And please don't ever use anything that is not intended for nails (mini-engraver) on nails. It's quite common for people to use a dremel but the speed is not controlled and major damage can be done to your clients.

HTH

 

[Led]

Thanks A LOT Carmen!!!!
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[akaza]

I use an e file and prefer this to a hand file, especially when it comes to a french tip refill!

The e file I find is much quicker and I get a even crisp smile line, every time! They are not that hard to use, but I do recommend doing a course, to learn how to use it properly, and what drill piece is used for what etc.

I recommend a Kupa drill if your looking at buying one in the future. They are easy to use, affordable, they dont vibrate as much as other drills and you can adjust your drill working speed to what suits you.

 

[neshma]

Theres a nail drill that looks just llike an engraver....its a 3 pc rotary tool for nails....if u cant find one there......i could see how much it costs to post one there!? THey are cheaper than the other drills, And better I think!