Nails keep lifting!!

[vikki b]

hi all i need some advice i have been a qualified nail tech for a while now and use "the edge" products for tip and dip and acrylic nails but i seem to get my clients ringing me after 7 days at the most saying a few of their nails have fallen of and when i look they are noticably lifting too, i work from home at the min but have been invited to work in a salon next month but am a little bit worried about this. can anyone suggest why this may be happening i am doing all the correct nail prep etc?? all suggestions appreciated as i really would like to work in the salon, so i need to correct this situation
thanks x:irked:

 

[katiebbaby]

It could be a number of things hun, mix ratio, are you sure you are not working too wet or dry? Are you sure you are removing all the cuticle? are you dehydreating the nail plate properly and removing shine? Are you getting lifting in all zones or just zone 3,? ARe you pressing your product enough? Do you use primer? these are just a few things that would contribute towards lifting if not done properly, go through step by step your application, There are lots of techs on here with more exp than me and im sure they too will have some advise, have you tried contacting your educator? xxxc

 

[sarahpoppy24]

Have you tried using a different product. From what I know the edge is more of a training product. All I am saying is it may not be your fault as I find that the edge products I have tried do not compare to the likes of CND, NSI etc hope this helps xxxxx

 

[jodie_glo]

hi vikki,

i have done the same training and experienced the same problem. the reason it happened to me was i was going to close to the cuticle with the acrylic - in our training we were advised to leave a 1mm gap and since i have done this it seems to have stopped 95% of the lifting!

if i can help anymore let me know


jodie x

 

[junction]

Vikki I was having the same problem. I started putting my monomer into the fridge and keeping it really cold and it has stopped a huge amount of this happening.

Give it a shot... Cant hurt to try! Other than that, all I can say is practice practice practice. Make sure you do thorough prep, and then dehydrate the nails thoroughly.

hths

xx

 

[ando4ka]

make sure you carefull and properly remove cuticles, don't touch the nails (because skin contains natural nails and nothing sticks to oily or shiny nails). Make sure you clean off the dust with the brush and when you start doing the overlay avoid acrylic touching the skin as it may cause lifting because the air gets stuck under acrylic as it has nowhere else to go.

 

[vikki b]

thanks all for your answers i will use ur info. i just want to list now the whole procedure i am going through from nail prep to finish to see if anyone can see where i am going wrong if i am at all:

firstly the lifting is mostly at the sides and the nail is coming off whole!

1. i spray mine and clients hands and nails with sanitizer spray
2. i push back cuticle
3. i block buff with a white buffer
4. i dehydrate the nails then, with acetone and a cotton bud
5. then i size and apply tip with resin usually. sometimes i use a nail glue.
6. then i prime with a primer pen
7. i use a kolinsky no18 brush to then apply acrylic...
8. then i file all ridges making sure there is no product on or near the sides of nail or cuticle and make sure it isn't too thick around the sides, etc
9. i use the the white block buffer, then a blue buffer type thing
10. then i shine up with a normal shine buffer
11. i apply a small amount of cuticle oil and ask the client to wash hands
12. then i apply a top coat twice

please let me know if anything sounds wrong or let me know if i amnot doing it in the right order and so on?!!

all feedback welcome,
thankyou

 

[glitz and glam]

do you use a cuticle remover? i use vanish as im an nsi girl. also dont forget to remove cuticle of the nail in zone 3 and down side walls because this is one of the main reason for lifting its no good just pushing it back make sure theres nothing on the nail.
also another difference (obviously different systems do things differently so might not mean anything) but when i dehydrate the nail i use nail pure plus i think the cnd alternative is scrub fresh, do you use anything like that?
hth

 

[Ashiya]

i looked at your steps, i dehydrate after i apply the tip just before i apply the product

 

[Bagpuss]

i looked at your steps, i dehydrate after i apply the tip just before i apply the product

just be careful not to get on the tip though...some dehydrators make the tips crack...only put it on the natural nail. x

 

[moosey]

hi hun after you have removed the cuticle and shine it is really important to dehydrate the whole nail properly. a lint free wipe with scrubfresh or equivilant , and give it a good rub. upto the cuticle and pull them lateral folds back to making sure there is no residue left and then do not touch the nail plate as this transfers oils so if you do touch it just wipe again hths hun x

 

[grafxgal]

.................. avoid acrylic touching the skin as it may cause lifting because the air gets stuck under acrylic as it has nowhere else to go.

Who taught you this?
The reason you get lifting if the product touches the skin is because the product will NOT adhere to skin not because "air gets stuck under it and has nowhere else to go"

 

[Envy]

1. i spray mine and clients hands and nails with sanitizer spray
2. i push back cuticle
3. i block buff with a white buffer
4. i dehydrate the nails then, with acetone and a cotton bud
5. then i size and apply tip with resin usually. sometimes i use a nail glue.
6. then i prime with a primer pen
7. i use a kolinsky no18 brush to then apply acrylic...
8. then i file all ridges making sure there is no product on or near the sides of nail or cuticle and make sure it isn't too thick around the sides, etc
9. i use the the white block buffer, then a blue buffer type thing
10. then i shine up with a normal shine buffer
11. i apply a small amount of cuticle oil and ask the client to wash hands
12. then i apply a top coat twice

Hey chick,

your trouble most likely lies with the highlighted line...

A buff block is generally incapable of removing the shine effectively around zone 3 and down into the sidewalls on the nail plate - this is a common mistake and easy to miss...

You need to get a good 240 grit thin board and use it thin edge to ensure you have actually removed the shine right from edge to edge of the nail plate. Turn the nail under a light to see if there are any shiny bits left - Nail product WILL NOT adhere to these patches!!

Hopefully that will help

 

[diamond 77]

hi all i need some advice i have been a qualified nail tech for a while now and use "the edge" products for tip and dip and acrylic nails but i seem to get my clients ringing me after 7 days at the most saying a few of their nails have fallen of and when i look they are noticably lifting too, i work from home at the min but have been invited to work in a salon next month but am a little bit worried about this. can anyone suggest why this may be happening i am doing all the correct nail prep etc?? all suggestions appreciated as i really would like to work in the salon, so i need to correct this situation
thanks x:irked:

hi hunni, tip n dip is not a very good system, thats prob why your having problems. try using the edge standard acrylic system if you like the product , unfortunatly there is no quick and easy way to do nails.go back to basics and use a good primmer- i use ibd grip primer and grip monomer and have never had ne probs, hope this helps xx

 

[vikki b]

thank you all for the advice it has really helped i have now purchased the NSI attraction and i must say it is the way forward i have done my own and using all the feedback from you all there is no lifting and i have had the set on for 9 days... thanks all again im sure i couldnt have done it without ur comments xx:green: