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Kkmorley28

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Dear geeks,
I'm currently using affinage onyx on a clients hair . Which has to pre lighted first! I was wondering if any one has achieved a dark grey/silver with out prelighting first. The client has about 40% natural grey mainly round front and is a base 5.
She lovelys the colour , but has really sensitive skin due to meds.
So would like to avoid the prelighting part , she don't mind if the grey colour is a darker base, as I can pop foils thought, but need the coverage too !! Help! Suggests would be great !!
 

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Do you have a pic of what it looks like? I've not seen that shade before
 

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I don't use that line but your are working on less than 50% white hair so the natural base will dominate your outcome. Permanent grey and metallic shades will have a neutralizing effect when lifting natural levels due to the the warmth that you will create. To achieve a true ash tone the undertone needs to be at least a level or two than your target otherwise it will brown-out! :p
 

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I don't use that line but your are working on less than 50% white hair so the natural base will dominate your outcome. Permanent grey and metallic shades will have a neutralizing effect when lifting natural levels due to the the warmth that you will create. To achieve a true ash tone the undertone needs to be at least a level or two than your target otherwise it will brown-out! :p
Thanks for yr reply, I didn't think there was a way round it ! For id thought I'd ask anyway! Will have to try and use something milder to prelightne with .
 

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do you know what level that shade sits on?
 

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Roughly 9 ,10 , is doesn't have to be too pale , the onyx is 6.1117 , so it covers fine .
 

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Could you double process by using it twice? 1'st time would probably give a neutral tone but 2nd go would go very grey, only thing is you won't get that nice translucency you would on pre lightened, framesi do a new grey range too their nice but Demi's rather than permanant
 

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I believe the gothic range requires prelightening to level 10, does it not?
 

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To get the best results from the gothic range make sure you are at a level 10 and pre tone to take out any warmth. Apply desired shade onto dry clean hair with two parts converter. Process for the full amount of time of 20mins.
 

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