Probem with my French Shellac application

[MaisyMouse]

Hello,

I have always found french polish hard and thought it would be easier with Shellac, but last week I had a nightmare doing it.

I found it really runny and after applying the base coat and curing for 10 seconds I applied the white but found it just ran into the base, I also found it hard to get the coat thin but still giving enough coverage. Should I be applying two thin coats of white or one, then the colour?

Please help!

 

[mizzy_dizzy]

Strange that it is that runny! are you shaking it ?
I do 2 coats of white when I need to,

 

[MaisyMouse]

I have been shaking it but have been finding that there are bubbles in it when I do so have been trying rolling it in hands like i do polish.

I found that the smile line of my white is running intop the base coat.

 

[Martigirl]

Needs to be shaken really well Debbie xxx

you should only really get bubbles if it's too thick an application xxx

the application is way easier than polish I paint on thinly and if it needs "patching" bald spots I do.

One thing I have found is I liked to apply the white for french with polish from the free edge and "butt up" if that makes sense, but with Shellac it doesn't work well but painting from each side works much better iykwim xxxx

hth's xxx

 

[georgie127]

Hi Maisymouse,
I do my french by applying base coat cure for 10 secs then apply first coat of negligee and cure 2mins then apply your white creme puff and cure 2 mins and then 2nd coat of negligee cure 2mins then top coat and cure 2mins.
I have not tried to put white on after base coat so can't comment but in doing it this way it does not bleed and goes on very smoothly give it a go.
hth

 

[MaisyMouse]

Needs to be shaken really well Debbie xxx

you should only really get bubbles if it's too thick an application xxx

the application is way easier than polish I paint on thinly and if it needs "patching" bald spots I do.

One thing I have found is I liked to apply the white for french with polish from the free edge and "butt up" if that makes sense, but with Shellac it doesn't work well but painting from each side works much better iykwim xxxx

hth's xxx

Thank you. Do you patch the bald spots with a second coat once you have cured the first or just after your first application before curing? Have you not found the white running slightly into the base?

xxx

 

[Deena]

I spent ages trying to do a french with the white shellac and just couldn't get to grips with it. I can only get good coverage by making it too thick and then it puckers badly under the lamp. :o

 

[MaisyMouse]

I spent ages trying to do a french with the white shellac and just couldn't get to grips with it. I can only get good coverage by making it too thick and then it puckers badly under the lamp. :o

Im glad im not the only one who is struggling

 

[mizzy_dizzy]

One thing that is worth knowing about shellac is that the inhibition layer is not necessary !
This means that your can play about with that smile line as much as you want to get it where you want it to go and then cure it!
its not a gel,

 

[Martigirl]

Thank you. Do you patch the bald spots with a second coat once you have cured the first or just after your first application before curing? Have you not found the white running slightly into the base?

xxx

before I cure it xxx

I do base, negligee and then white xxx

 

[mizzy_dizzy]

You are using the right light right? And the bulbs are ok ?
I'm not finding any bleeding of color ,

This is what I do
P.E.P then :
Base...10 seconds
Negligee 120 seconds

Creampuff , thin to win (don't worry if it is patchy or thin they all are on the first coat.(tidy with clean gel brush dry or dipped in a little D-sperse if you need to ...120 seconds

2nd thin coat creampuff , fills the gaps and patches, .........120

More negligee if you want to dull the creampuff a little , ..... 120 seconds

Then top coat.... 120 seconds.
And clean off the inhibition layer oil; ... Done

 

[ScotsChica]

Have you tried the Dashing Diva Wrap system? It's no substitute for a good French technique but does look fab & can use it with polish/Shellac/gel etc so it's very versatile.

For Shellac application, VERY thin coats of white, I always do 2 thin coats as opposed to a thicker coat that puckers on curing. I apply it using side - centre motions on either side, taking care to cap the free edge THINLY & tidy up any product on skin with end of gel brush & any mess on nail plate with gel brush wiped with D.Sperse.

Hope you dont get put off this fab product...it just takes time to get technique right xxx

 

[deanosnana]

I do my french by applying base coat cure for 10 secs then apply first coat of negligee and cure 2mins then apply your white creme puff and cure 2 mins and then 2nd coat of negligee cure 2mins then top coat and cure 2mins.

I do basically the same except I am using Romantique in place of Negligee. I've had no problems doing it this way. Best of luck!

 

[MaisyMouse]

Hi Maisymouse,
I do my french by applying base coat cure for 10 secs then apply first coat of negligee and cure 2mins then apply your white creme puff and cure 2 mins and then 2nd coat of negligee cure 2mins then top coat and cure 2mins.
I have not tried to put white on after base coat so can't comment but in doing it this way it does not bleed and goes on very smoothly give it a go.
hth

I will try it this way thank you

 

[MaisyMouse]

You are using the right light right? And the bulbs are ok ?
I'm not finding any bleeding of color ,

This is what I do
P.E.P then :
Base...10 seconds
Negligee 120 seconds

Creampuff , thin to win (don't worry if it is patchy or thin they all are on the first coat.(tidy with clean gel brush dry or dipped in a little D-sperse if you need to ...120 seconds

2nd thin coat creampuff , fills the gaps and patches, .........120

More negligee if you want to dull the creampuff a little , ..... 120 seconds

Then top coat.... 120 seconds.
And clean off the inhibition layer oil; ... Done

I am using the new CND lamp.

I am doing it differently (probably the wrong way) Base, cure 10 secs, Cream puff, cure 120, negligee, 120 secs, top, cure 120.

I was worried if I did two coats of negligee and two coats of cream puff it would be too thick?

I tried wiping of the inhibition layer after the base before the cream puff and it was better but wasnt sure if this was ok to do.

Thanks for the tip with the gel brush and d-sperse

 

[MaisyMouse]

Have you tried the Dashing Diva Wrap system? It's no substitute for a good French technique but does look fab & can use it with polish/Shellac/gel etc so it's very versatile.

For Shellac application, VERY thin coats of white, I always do 2 thin coats as opposed to a thicker coat that puckers on curing. I apply it using side - centre motions on either side, taking care to cap the free edge THINLY & tidy up any product on skin with end of gel brush & any mess on nail plate with gel brush wiped with D.Sperse.

Hope you dont get put off this fab product...it just takes time to get technique right xxx

I know its certainly not the product, its my poor application (I am not a nail technician) and am already slow at painting nails so I think I just need to have a bit more practise and take on board all these tips

Thank you

 

[mizzy_dizzy]

I am using the new CND lamp.

I am doing it differently (probably the wrong way) Base, cure 10 secs, Cream puff, cure 120, negligee, 120 secs, top, cure 120.

I was worried if I did two coats of negligee and two coats of cream puff it would be too thick?

I tried wiping of the inhibition layer after the base before the cream puff and it was better but wasnt sure if this was ok to do.

Thanks for the tip with the gel brush and d-sperse

OK maybe your over curing the 10 second base coat that is exposed when your curing the cream puff part (I'm not sure if it can be over cured just a thought)
One client I had wanted French but no other color so the white tips and her natal pink nail bed , (this is by no means an official way just something that I did)
I wondered if the base would be over cured so
I did my base ..cured
Then a layer of top coat cured
Then the cream puff ..cured
Then another top coat cure ,
finish it off

Now the only problem I could think of from this was that the removal might take longer ..... But it didn't ...