rottweilers, are they dangerous??

[vicky]

In 1991 i had my dog put to sleep because of a knee jerk reaction from the goverment. My dogs name was Sally and she was an american pit bull terrior, there had been a bad attack on a man and i fully agree that there needed to be laws made but the only people to comply to these laws were good dog owners. All the fighting dogs were take underground and the ones that should have been put down were'nt.

I couldnt put my dog through never being able to run free or being muzzaled (sp) at all times when on a lead. I know what happend is very sad and it should never have happend but this law should cover ALL dogs. But once again its the good ones that will comply to the law and others will carry on as they do.

 

[VHunter]

i will in no way take the blame for animals actions i now have a lovely staff soft as anything too i tell hime off when he nips the kids and myself and my partner, i toilet trained him within a few days so i now how to bring dogs up as i do kids !! this was a very sad and hard thing for us to do as a family and i will not have the blame put on me ! wether i was right or wrong !

If you read my whole post, you will see that I am NOT blaming you at all.
I am simply saying we can't generalize and blame a particular breed.
I feel your pain and am sorry for what happened. And I'm very sorry that you took my words to mean that. That's not what I mean at all.

I also said: "And you can have the 'odd' animal that's a bit unstable SAME as with people (maybe due to inbreeding? bad rearing, imbalance, previous abuse, who knows..)"
And
"My Nana's best friend had a golden lab. Sweetest thing. Played great with kids, we pulled his tail and everything. Never so much as a snap.
When I was 4yrs old, he was asleep on the floor. I tripped and fell on him and startled him..
Next thing we all knew, my face was in his mouth. (thankfully, no scarring)
Hardly his fault, I scared the crap outta him and had probably hurt him when I landed on him."

I should have clarified and added that sometimes odd situations cause odd things to happen that aren't expected. Dogs can get confused just as people,and lash out.

I'm very sorry that I offended you, I should have clarified. I was just responding to a generalization that the breed itself might be a bad breed, which I'm sure you know isn't true.

:hug: :Love:

 

[Tars]

Any breed of dog can turn/bite a human however soppy and affectionate they are.
It is up to us dog owners to be responsible and keep that thought in the back of our minds. I own a Bulldog, a big soppy lump and she is much loved by us all however I NEVER leave her alone with my young children and I'm lucky she follows me just about everywhere anyway. Dogs must be put in there place, yes my dog is very much part of our family but she now knows she is at the bottom of the pecking order so to speak plus dogs need and liked to be mastered even stubborn old Bulldogs!

 

[Sherbit]

i will in no way take the blame for animals actions i now have a lovely staff soft as anything too i tell hime off when he nips the kids and myself and my partner, i toilet trained him within a few days so i now how to bring dogs up as i do kids !! this was a very sad and hard thing for us to do as a family and i will not have the blame put on me ! wether i was right or wrong !

But why is he nipping the family?? Yeah its just a nip now, but what about when the kids do something he doesnt like and hes a bit older and bigger?? How do you tell him off?? Smacking or shouting?? Hes trying to be the alpha dog, I would 'nip' that in butt now!! Ive never had an animal put down, but I can imagine its the hardest thing ever, Im not blaming you for being a bad animal owner, I dont think you are, maybe like 99% of the population of dog owners, maybe just a bit naieve?? Have you thought of puppy class?? Perfect way of socialising your dogs and sorting any little problems he might have.

 

[Jewsey]

I,m glad you spoke out cos i feel the same.. it may not be the dog situation but the kids one... i have a child who punches kicks throws things at me swares at me and he has never been brought up any different from my 2nd child... he has a mental problem IS THAT MY FAULT....

i know liz what are they trying to say im bringing my children up like animals sorry guys but the comments are well out of order and people can take this personally so im shutting up on this now obviously i tried to bring up a topic that was close to my heart and still raw and yes i did ask for opinions but when so calleds are blaming us the owners for something we have no control over i think thats bad ! if happens to them one day there see where im coming from and yes angie thats what puppies do and i appreciate that you would not have this in your home but some of us love the companionship dogs cats etc give and its all part of their growing up i have toys for it to curb this habit but thats what puppies do!

jules

jules

 

[vicky]

My neighbour has a pitbull terrier, and its a scary dog. I hate it.

Quite recently the dog got out of the house (usually its kept in doors in a locked room) and it was running wildly in the street.

It tried to attack my other neighbours cat, but my mam managed to stop the dog.

Its owner and her boyfriend came out saundering down the street to where we were and didn't give a damn about the dog, they didn't even bother to get the lead. Her response was "dogs chase cats". Fair enough they do. But this was going to kill it!

In my opinion dogs like this and rottweilers should be put down regardless. I love animals but not these type of dogs.

With these types of dogs there teeth lock and they tug at the skin and can break through to the bone.

About 15 years ago 4 jack russels killed a 7 year old girl....! any dog can inflicked serious injury, i can't beleive a comment like that !!

 

[Sherbit]

My neighbour has a pitbull terrier, and its a scary dog. I hate it.

Quite recently the dog got out of the house (usually its kept in doors in a locked room) and it was running wildly in the street.

It tried to attack my other neighbours cat, but my mam managed to stop the dog.

Its owner and her boyfriend came out saundering down the street to where we were and didn't give a damn about the dog, they didn't even bother to get the lead. Her response was "dogs chase cats". Fair enough they do. But this was going to kill it!

In my opinion dogs like this and rottweilers should be put down regardless. I love animals but not these type of dogs.

With these types of dogs there teeth lock and they tug at the skin and can break through to the bone.

Its sad to hear that people can be so small minded, what about dobemins? there quite big, or german shephards, or lurchers all quite big dogs, I suppose they can tug at the skin and break through to the bone too, lets put them all down eh??

 

[HappyHands]

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Its sad to hear that people can be so small minded, what about dobemins? there quite big, or german shephards, or lurchers all quite big dogs, I suppose they can tug at the skin and break through to the bone too, lets put them all down eh??

you leave my baby girl (german shepard ) alone... she is the softest thing in this house compard to my son...lol she has never even growled at him when he has lost his temper and she has been in the way.. she just gets up and moves to her bed looking at him as if to say "what did i do"

 

[Sherbit]

you leave my baby girl (german shepard ) alone... she is the softest thing in this house compard to my son...lol she has never even growled at him when he has lost his temper and she has been in the way.. she just gets up and moves to her bed looking at him as if to say "what did i do"

Hey dont jump on my back!! Have a word with Beaute!! I lurrrvvvve all doggies (its humans I have problems with LOL )

 

[Jewsey]

What I'm getting at is these dogs should have 1 owner who can handle the dog, I don't see police having two handlers to one dog.

I thought this was a forum about nails and not matters like this.

it a salon forum and yes its all about nails, so why are you reading things in the chitchat forum?sorry but if you dont like it dont read it just my opinion

 

[HappyHands]

Hey dont jump on my back!! Have a word with Beaute!! I lurrrvvvve all doggies (its humans I have problems with LOL )

ok forgiven

 

[Good Skin Day]

In 1991 i had my dog put to sleep because of a knee jerk reaction from the goverment. My dogs name was Sally and she was an american pit bull terrior, there had been a bad attack on a man and i fully agree that there needed to be laws made but the only people to comply to these laws were good dog owners. All the fighting dogs were take underground and the ones that should have been put down were'nt.

I couldnt put my dog through never being able to run free or being muzzaled (sp) at all times when on a lead. I know what happend is very sad and it should never have happend but this law should cover ALL dogs. But once again its the good ones that will comply to the law and others will carry on as they do.

Oh my God, I feel for you hun, I love my dogs and if this sort of thing ever happened to me, I would break down :hug:

I know someone who had an oldish King Charles Spaniel whose back legs were going and her 8 year old daughter tried to pick him up whilst he was asleep, using his back end as a pivot. He woke up startled and instinctively bit the hand that was pivotting him, not even breaking the skin but giving the little brat a good sharp shock! My friend decided the dog ought to be put down No chance was I letting her play God with this little dog's life, I kicked up the hugest fuss, pointing out that the spaniel had been a faithful, loving little dog and because he reacted instinctively because he is an animal like us, then his life gets ended?? What?! Bravo for humankind and it's total intolerance for anything that doesn't conform to our warped views

Obviously when it comes to serious injury and death caused by a dog, although it greatly saddens me, then humane destruction can be the best way.

If you walk behind a horse and startle it, what do you get...kicked. If you walk through a field where a bull is protecting his cows, what do you get....charged. If you accidentally stand on your cat, what do you get....scratched. So expect a dog to act in a similar way if you tease it or startle it. Dogs aren't numb to pain, you know, they are living breathing creatures and require respect.

 

[Tars]

What I'm getting at is these dogs should have 1 owner who can handle the dog, I don't see police having two handlers to one dog.

I thought this was a forum about nails and not matters like this.

This is a Nail Forum but your reading and POSTING in Chit Chat. If you want to stick to nails, only reply to the Nail threads and not these matters!

 

[Tsia]

My neighbor has a poodle? I would GLADLY drop-kick that nasty thing. .

This made me laugh out loud! :lol:

....Granted, there are also different personalities in animals such as with people.
BUT if an animal shows an aggressive side as a puppy then it's the owners responsibility to train him appropriately. (just as kids are corrected not to hit other kids)...

To an extent yes, but some dogs (and kids) just cant be helped if it wasnt nipped in the bud early enough!! xxx

 

[KATIE XXXX]

My mum has a rottweiler cross old time english bull dog. She has had him since being a puppy.

He has biten my cousin (11) but not hard enough to pierce the skin and he did pull his tail while he was eating (probably scared him to death).

Her boyfriend seems to believe there is always a bad dog in a litter think it may be just a myth myself. He tends to growl a lot at men, not my mums boyfriend though because he is his master if you will, but any other men he hates them. This is probably because he has been brought up with me, my 2 sisters (15& 9) my mums boyfriends daughter 1 and his little boy 4. He is not aloud out of his kennel if my mums boyfriend is not there but when he is he plays with the kids as if he is one himself. but we are always wary i think it is because of his size.

xxxxxxxxx

 

[beaute]

For those of you I have offended I'm sorry.

I am only having my say and everyone is entitled to their opinion.

If a dog is brought up correctly then there shouldn't be a problem. But somtimes you can't change the breed.

 

[VHunter]

If you walk behind a horse and startle it, what do you get...kicked. If you walk through a field where a bull is protecting his cows, what do you get....charged. If you accidentally stand on your cat, what do you get....scratched. So expect a dog to act in a similar way if you tease it or startle it. Dogs aren't numb to pain, you know, they are living breathing creatures and require respect.

WELL SAID!

Again, I apologize for not emphasizing that in some cases, it's NOT the owner's fault.

Also, like someone else said.. sometimes we are naive (I'm guilty as charged) and give the animals too much credit and credit them with more intelligence than they actually have.
They don't "reason". So if someone startles them, hurts them etc; they don't stop and think "she did it by accident, so I won't do anything". They retaliate/react to what has occurred.

I have had to put several animals to sleep over the years for a variety of reasons...once for aggression.
I personally take responsibility for her agression as her habits weren't nipped in the bud when she was younger as I was working full time and just didn't devote enough time to training her. I still feel bad and guilty etc.
By the same token, it's not always our fault.
When I got my next dog, and he started nipping, I 'nipped' that right in the bud and gave him a solid whack anytime he tried. I hated doing it. BUT I had a terrible fear of repeating the same scenario. I did NOT want another person nipped, NOR did I want to destroy another animal. I couldn't bear the thought.

We do everything we can, everything we should, and sometimes, "odd" things happen despite our efforts. Life's funny like that. Accidents, whatever. We'll never know 'why', only the end result.

It's unfortunate.

Now if only we could use the death penalty a bit more often with the truely dangerous on this planet (human), the world might be a better place. lol j/k:wink2:

 

[Sassy Hassy]

At the end of the day dogs are animals and the only way it can defend itself is to bite or growl. The trouble is that people , and especially children, see them as cute fluffy things and don't treat them with the respect they deserve. they are pack animals and they have to know that at all times they are at the bottom of the pack. Therefore if my dogs ever growled at my children, it wouldn't be me telling them off but my children so that the dog knows that it is lower than them in the rank of the pack. This is where most people go wrong and the dog sees itself in the rank below the adults and above the children.

I watch Dog Borstel on a Tuesday night (I think on BBC3) and they can turn totally unmanageable dogs around within days by teaching the people how to handle dogs. Most people haven't got a clue and treat them as humans and not as a pack animal.

I just think that if you have a dog tht you should always assume that it will attack and be on your guard. Whenever we pass small children I always keep my dogs on a short lead. I would just hate for a child to come running over and overwhelm them and even a bark would frighten them, never mind being bitten.

Also they do say that when you buy a puppy ask to see its parents because a dog's temperament CAN be inbred and it would take a very experienced handler to correct this, if at all.

 

[HappyHands]

This made me laugh out loud! :lol:


To an extent yes, but some dogs (and kids) just cant be helped if it wasnt nipped in the bud early enough!! xxx

no affence but can we stay off the subject of kids in this topic.. cos at the mo my soap box is getting rather big and is liable to explode any minute.. I could not have NIPPED my sons condition in the bud cos it never came to light till he was 6yrs.. although i told teachers and medical peeps that i thought there was a problem. to be told it was my imagination. low and behold i now have a unruley disturbed child who can be really aggressive and dangerous... and this thread is making me feel more and more like it was my own fault and i didnt do all i could... my life is now even more hell cos i have to fight hell and high water to get him any help..

 

[Martigirl]

Oh my God, I feel for you hun, I love my dogs and if this sort of thing ever happened to me, I would break down :hug:

I know someone who had an oldish King Charles Spaniel whose back legs were going and her 8 year old daughter tried to pick him up whilst he was asleep, using his back end as a pivot. He woke up startled and instinctively bit the hand that was pivotting him, not even breaking the skin but giving the little brat a good sharp shock! My friend decided the dog ought to be put down No chance was I letting her play God with this little dog's life, I kicked up the hugest fuss, pointing out that the spaniel had been a faithful, loving little dog and because he reacted instinctively because he is an animal like us, then his life gets ended?? What?! Bravo for humankind and it's total intolerance for anything that doesn't conform to our warped views

Obviously when it comes to serious injury and death caused by a dog, although it greatly saddens me, then humane destruction can be the best way.

If you walk behind a horse and startle it, what do you get...kicked. If you walk through a field where a bull is protecting his cows, what do you get....charged. If you accidentally stand on your cat, what do you get....scratched. So expect a dog to act in a similar way if you tease it or startle it. Dogs aren't numb to pain, you know, they are living breathing creatures and require respect.

Totally agree Amy.

I have had a Springer Spaniel, Cocker Spaniel, Doberman and an Alsatian Cross I still have my Alsatian the others have died of old age.

I have never experienced any of my dogs biting except the Springer Spaniel and this was only as a reaction to me accidently hurting him.

A dog NORMALLY only reacts to provocation just as nearly all humans do.

There are of course ROGUE animlas as well as a great many MORE ROGUE humans.

Give me animals any time