Wella Illumina-why are the ash tones so warm?

[funtimefranko]

I think half of it is tucked into her jumper, I haven't seen it in person yet!! lol xxx

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Oh thank god lol. What was her hair like before?

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[cassies97]

That looks like a car crash!

What does she want?

 

[bubblegumsoap]

It was box dyed a dark brown I would say about a 4 or a 5!! I'm just stumped what to do... She did 2 lots of bleach left the first lot on for 20 mins second on for 30 mins..... Shall I do a couple bleach baths and perhaps put an ash brown maybe a 7 on top to cover it with a nourishing conditioning treatment??? It definitely looks like a car crash lol!!! Xxx

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[bubblegumsoap]

She wanted a light brown, about a 7 base. I did say to her I could do it in the week but she was inpatient....

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[cassies97]

It was box dyed a dark brown I would say about a 4 or a 5!! I'm just stumped what to do... She did 2 lots of bleach left the first lot on for 20 mins second on for 30 mins..... Shall I do a couple bleach baths and perhaps put an ash brown maybe a 7 on top to cover it with a nourishing conditioning treatment??? It definitely looks like a car crash lol!!! Xxx

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Looks in very bad condition. Definitely get strand testing. Id recommend doing blondor and pastel in a 1:4 ratio, if the condition allows you can apply 3 times in one sitting. Can be left on for up to 50 minutes. Then i'd be looking at illumina, depending what you get it to, as a gloss as i find this locks it in much better and stops fading. Definitely some conditioning treatments!

 

[cassies97]

Is she looking for a warm 7 or like a ashy mousy level 7?

 

[bubblegumsoap]

So mix blondor with pastel developer, leave it for 50 mins repeat if nessessary then With illumina I'll use an ash 7 and mix in a little 7/81 like you sugested with my mums hair to loose the orangey tones ?? This is not what I was planning to do with my Sunday afternoon lol why do people do it? Whhhhhyyyyyyyyyyy! Xxx

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[bubblegumsoap]

Sorry I meant use 7 with a bit of 7/81. Xxx

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[cassies97]

Sorry I meant use 7 with a bit of 7/81. Xxx

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I wouldn't even use the 7/. I'd stick with just the 7/81, it'll more than likely be VERY warm. Yeah 1 part blondor to 4 parts pastel. Then once lifted to the correct undertone use 7/81 with pastel and service conditioner in a 1:1:1 ratio. Strand test is essential though because the condition looks very bad, it may just be because its unstyled but i'd still do one.

 

[bubblegumsoap]

Deffinately gonna get strand testing lol xxx

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[bubblegumsoap]

1:1:1 ratio??? So one part color one part pastel developer and one part conditioner all mixed together? There is so much that I am learning here lol! I'm gonna book myself in for a well a illumia course I think this is so interesting lol xxx
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[cassies97]

1:1:1 ratio??? So one part color one part pastel developer and one part conditioner all mixed together? There is so much that I am learning here lol! I'm gonna book myself in for a well a illumia course I think this is so interesting lol xxx
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Yes the black post service conditioner though. There is a lot to learn haha hope it goes well! Take a before and after and show us xxx

 

[bubblegumsoap]

I went to Sallys and couldn't find any of the conditioner but my friend said you can use any colour save conditioner? But she might have some at home I can have so she's gonna let me know. Will take before and afters!!! Xxx

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[tsparker78]

I went to Sallys and couldn't find any of the conditioner but my friend said you can use any colour save conditioner? But she might have some at home I can have so she's gonna let me know. Will take before and afters!!! Xxx

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In the US the illumina instuction booklet says you can use the sp color save for glossing, but i never have. I did use generic anti oxy once when doing a gloss on my own hair. It worked just fine. Wouldn't do that on a client though.

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[cassies97]

In the US the illumina instuction booklet says you can use the sp color save for glossing, but i never have. I did use generic anti oxy once when doing a gloss on my own hair. It worked just fine. Wouldn't do that on a client though.

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Yes you can use that also! OP you can use just pastel in a 1:2 but be aware it'll fade faster than the gloss, ive found anyway.

 

[bubblegumsoap]

Here's the end result..... Gorgeous ash brown hair..... Thank you all so much for your support!! I bleached it all so it wasn't patchy and it wasn't a dark orange..... Such a beautiful color. Just had a good couple inches cut off. Its in relatively good condition suprisingly!!! Xxx
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[bubblegumsoap]

This was the before what I was sent this morning xxx
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[cassies97]

Such an improvement! X

 

[funtimefranko]

Lovely what did you use in the end?x

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[bubblegumsoap]

Exactly what cam said, apart from the bleaching process.... I did use bleach with 3 % on most of the hair and in some areas which were still quite dark from the clients poor application I used bleach with 6 % to make it all even, then used the 1:1:1 ratio illumina color 7/81 xxx

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