Any advice on applying Brisa gels for the perfect c curve

[nenee]

Hi ya

I am trained in acrylics but I am allergic to them! so looking for an alternative, iv got my brisa kit but havent had much practice/training in gels so just looking for advice and tips on how to get the perfect look

I love Creative and want to do the gels justice, I will be looking to train in them of course, but want to see if I am allergic to them first before spending my hard earned pennies lol:lol:

So any advice/pointers or techniques when applying gel, I want to use tips and I have white glitter and I am thinking of white glitter tips (as in college, so cant have colours but want a little va va voom so to speak) could i paint on the white gel then dip in the glitter??? any other ideas.

Also what are your thoughts on SQUARE OR ROUNDED?? what is the popular thing at the mo??

cheers

nenee:hug:

 

[Bagpuss]

Thats alot of questions hun....

Do you mean c curve or Apex...??

I like square, love glitter but as for the application of Brisa I really think thats best left for your training.....its really not something that can be taught on here.

I would have had a set done first to see if you are allergic...not brought the kit.

 

[nenee]

Hi ya

C curve and apex tips would be appreciated. I know where you are coming from about training and I will be booking that in when Iv seen if allergic or not, but want to do a set of gels on myself and dont want a shabby job, I have done gels of course but just wanted some advice until I do the course.

Will stick with square I reckon as they always look good!

cheers Hun

nenee:hug:

 

[sarahmarie]

Hi ya

I am trained in acrylics but I am allergic to them! so looking for an alternative, iv got my brisa kit but havent had much practice/training in gels so just looking for advice and tips on how to get the perfect look

Hi Nenee.. I am also allergic to ALL gels and L&P's!! (Well, all that I have tried, so I know how you feel)...

UNTIL I tried Brisa last week, and I am now doing the conversion day and getting my kit. Can't wait to be doing nails again!!

How did you get your Brisa kit if you have not done the training?

What area are you from?

xx

 

[nenee]

Hi ya

I purchased my brisa trial kit a long while ago, got it from creative, before they changed hands, I didnt have to do the training as already trained by creative in their acrylics, and a member, not sure if you have to do training now as changed hands but didnt have to then.

I havent used it much as had a baby etc but want to use it more as I know it can take a few goes before the allergy kicks in, so dont want to pay for the training until Im 100 % sure I have no reaction, as been there done that and lost hundreds of pounds previously with my allergy:irked:

Im doing a set of nails on myself today so will see how it goes? Im from north wales hun

cheers

nenee

 

[sarahmarie]

Yes, me too- I have spent so much on enhancement products that I can no longer use due to my allergy!

Really Hope you get on ok though!!

xx

 

[Bagpuss]

Thing that worries me with this is that often people have a go....and it goes wrong...then its the product that gets questioned.

Remember Brisa does not soak off....so if it goes wrong are you ok with removing gels by file...???

Do you have the Brisa lamp....?

Are you aware of the cure times and how to apply the first layer....? The brush technique is completely different with gel to that of L&P

Its really something you need a class in.

 

[nenee]

Thing that worries me with this is that often people have a go....and it goes wrong...then its the product that gets questioned.

Remember Brisa does not soak off....so if it goes wrong are you ok with removing gels by file...???

Do you have the Brisa lamp....?

Are you aware of the cure times and how to apply the first layer....? The brush technique is completely different with gel to that of L&P

Its really something you need a class in.

Hi ya

I see where you are coming from hun, but Im no novice or learner here, whos never done gels before or nail enhancements, I am a fully qualified Creative nail tech, who trained in college, with a couple of years experience who unfortunately has an allergy:cry: I do know you have to file them off etc etc. as for the lamp I know they may not cure correctly etc if I use my lamp, but its all about the allergy at the mo, and If I am not allergice to brisa I will buy a lamp and do the training.

I have a creative brisa tutorial video, and just wanted any tips on application from you guys. I know Brisa is a top notch product and I am very aware if it lifts etc its my own fault due to my prep or application method.

I will be doing the training once I am 100 % sure I am not allergic to Brisa, I only wanted tips or things to watch out for on application as different gels have different needs, its not about how they last etc at the mo its how or if I have an allergy, but I wanted to make sure I did them justice by applying them the best way I can at the mo, do you get where Im coming from now bagpuss. Im no novice looking to pick up the kit and start applying on clients its just for me to see if im allergic and being a perfectionist I want them looking as best as possible, until I can do the training

Cheers:hug:

 

[nenee]

Yes, me too- I have spent so much on enhancement products that I can no longer use due to my allergy!

Really Hope you get on ok though!!

xx

Hi ya

Yeh I totally understand where you are coming from, thats why I now buy the trial kits, then I have a go on me and see if I have a reaction the next day or so, otherwise I would be paying hundreds of pounds on each system to do training in them Id never use, its pointless isnt it!

I am crossing everything with Brisa due to them being hypoallergenic etc, then if Im ok Il be like you booking the training, I will be so excited if I can do them as Creative is such a good products, heres hoping

cheers

nenee

 

[nenee]

Thats alot of questions hun....

Do you mean c curve or Apex...??

I like square, love glitter but as for the application of Brisa I really think thats best left for your training.....its really not something that can be taught on here.

I would have had a set done first to see if you are allergic...not brought the kit.

Hi ya

Just wanted to say I have tried to have a set of brisa gels done on myself, BUT a big BUT the salons have acrylic and other chemicals in their environment and this would not be a great way for me to see which chemical caused me to wheeze, sneeze etc as sooooo many products in their shop and I cannot control what products are being used can I??

When I do brisa at home I know there is not Acrylic in my house and I know excatly what I have used, also with my type of allergy I need to be around the product a few times not once, to see if I build up an allergy to that product, this would mean having to go to a salon many times to do this and a trial kit is so much cheaper and an easier way for me, a qualified nail tech to try on myself, in an environment I know there is no acrylic around etc

cheers

nenee

 

[Bagpuss]

Brisa is acrylic....as are all the systems.

 

[adelekeegan1]

If you are not using the Brisa lamp the product will not be properly cured.

I am pretty sure that if product is not fully cured it represents an overexposure hazard (correct me if I'm wrong) and would not help you in establishing a suitability.

 

[nenee]

Hi Nenee.. I am also allergic to ALL gels and L&P's!! (Well, all that I have tried, so I know how you feel)...

UNTIL I tried Brisa last week, and I am now doing the conversion day and getting my kit. Can't wait to be doing nails again!!

How did you get your Brisa kit if you have not done the training?

What area are you from?

xx

Hi Bagpuss

As you can see from sarahmarie, she had the same issue as me being allergic to acrylic and other gels, BUT is ok with Brisa, as hypoallergenic and acrylate, formaldehyde, acid free etc etc.

I Posted my issues for help and advice on the best application, and NOT to be contradicted or questioned on why I am using a trial kit, the incorrect lamp etc. I do think other nail techs need to be a little more understanding and not be ready to jump in and be negative with other nail techs who are having a tough time with allergies, and just trying to get back on board.

I am not applying Brisa gel enhancements on clients, only on myself for ALLERGY reasons and WHY would I pay out and buy a brisa lamp, when I have a 9 amp lamp myself which has been curing my brisa gels perfectly fine, and just to see how I get on? If Im allergic to brisa then lamp or not it will show.:cry: Would you buy a lamp just for 2 applications, I dont think so, especially if like me I have lost hundreds of pounds in stock, training etc because I cant do acrylics now, Im sure you would be very un willing in buying lamps or training at this early stage if you had lost so much money previously:cry:

Like I said before, I WILL buy a lamp and do the training when I have applied the gels a few times to see if the fumes cause an allergy.

So can my post get back on track, which was about application, and not why I want to apply gels! so please can I have other nail techs out there who dont want to pick fault with another tech whos trying her hardest to get back into nail enhancements without costing me financial difficulties

Thanks


nenee

 

[Bagpuss]

Sorry you feel that way nenee. I can assure you am not picking fault at all....why would I....???

I was asking questions because thats what people do in a discussion.

I totally understand why you want to try Brisa...but your question was about how to achieve the perfect c curve....and make them look good....this just isn't something that can be taught on here....which is why I advised a course.

I also only mentioned the Brisa lamp as its a very important factor.

Please do as you feel best.

Sorry to have offended you.

 

[nenee]

Hi Bagpuss

You havent offended me, I just wanted to get back on track as I felt the post was focusing on the lamp and my intentions instead of the issue in the first place.

I understand it is difficult to help with the C curve issue and maybe a silly post to have done!

On looking on the posts, I can see you were trying to advise me on doing the gels the correct way and I appreciate that, and of course I should be using the lamp and have correct creative training, I fully agree but im in a difficult situation and just trying to sort it without losing more money.

Sorry if Im defensive its been a long day and I know you are trying to advise, but I do reckon sometimes words can be misread the wrong way like texts!


Il see how I get on

cheers

nenee

 

[makova06]

I think you are all being a little harsh on this poor woman....

I do Brisa gels on my nails and 1 friend without training and without a Brisa lamp. Nothing has gone wrong with my nails or my friends and they never fall of. So I believe you can have a lamp that can cure Brisa Gels. I want to train with Creative, but waiting untill college.

I trained with a sh.t company and not with a brand. I didn't learn how to sculpt or even how to do a rebalance. Everything I know, I have learned myself (and of course you here at salongeek).

as for your post Nenee.....

If you have the video just give it a try. do all the layers as they say. For apex building I put on a good layer of gel where I want my apex and spread the gel out from there, then I flip the hand upside down for a while. This (I think) is the easiest way to make thin sidelines and build a nice apex.

I can see you want to tip....if you put on white tips and just want a little glitter on the white, I would do the base layer and the builder layer (pink if wanted), whipe of sticky layer, refine with a file, put on a thin smooth layer of gel ontop of the white tip and then dip into the glitter. Cure and do the gloss...finish.

I never dip my glitter. I always put the glitter into the gel, as I think you have more controle this way.

Hope you get on with your Brisa...it is fab to work with

 

[Bagpuss]

I think you are all being a little harsh on this poor woman....

I do Brisa gels on my nails and 1 friend without training and without a Brisa lamp. Nothing has gone wrong with my nails or my friends and they never fall of. So I believe you can have a lamp that can cure Brisa Gels. I want to train with Creative, but waiting untill college.

Why is giving facts and advise considered harsh ? :irked:

You do what you want to do....and I will stick to the facts that I have been taught...Brisa needs the Brisa Lamp....Brisa should be brought from the authorised distributors, to do so requires the training....Brisa needs to be taught in a class to get the best benefits and understanding of how the gel works.

 

[nailartist]

Just as a suggestion: Why not just do one or two overlays in clear, without worrying about apexes or c-curves right now? If you're just testing to see if you're allergic or not, you don't need to do a whole set. A couple of nails will be enough exposure to elicit an allergic reaction, if there's going to be one.

 

[nenee]

Hi ya

Because I wanted to have a nice full set of nails whilst I am seeing if I have an allergy to them also, as not had/or done nail enhancements for such a long time, and wanted to have a go, no other reason or motive !

nenee

 

[lotus blossom]

I think you are all being a little harsh on this poor woman....

I do Brisa gels on my nails and 1 friend without training and without a Brisa lamp. Nothing has gone wrong with my nails

YET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!