ASP - Can anyone recommend?

[snowwhite13]

Hi there everyone,

I am looking to enrol on a course via Sally's. It's a 2 Day Beginner Course followed by a 2 Day Intermediate Course. It will cover all I need to know as I only want to be able to apply my own gel nails.

The system they use is ASP (All season professional). Does anyone have any experience of this system and can they recommend it etc?

I will be able to do my first two day course in June so would really like some advice from some professionals.

Many thanks

Laura

 

[Deena]

Hi. If I were you, I'd hang onto my money until I'd done some research on here. Do a search on training and see what people have to say before commiting yourself to anything you may come to regret. Good luck!

 

[Nail Delights]

ALS are part of star nails international, cuccio ect it was an american only brand till recently, good quality products x

 

[jodie_glo]

Not tried it - but was told by someone who works for star nails that it is the same as the cuccio products!

IMO i would train with one of the big brand - ezflow, cnd, nsi etc

I did a wholesalers course when i started in the industry and straight away i felt that i wasnt taught throughly enough because everything was such a rush. Since then i trained with Ezflow and the difference in the quality if training is out if this world and i know wish i started my journey with them! lesson learnt on my part - cheap doesnt always pay off and you certainly get what you pay for!

hth,

Jodie x x

 

[wendy malley]

I'd compare the price of this course with the price of one of the good nail companies and if you can afford the difference go with a good course.You will get much more out of it, 4 days isn't much time to learn enough even if they say it is x

 

[snowwhite13]

Hey there,

Thanks everyone, the only worry is I don't really have time to commit to a longer course during the day as I can't get time off work (I work full time, long hours in HR), so I really need something short and sweet.

As I will only ever be applying my own nails, do you think this would be enough? I don't ever plan on making this a business, only to do my own nails.

Laura xxx

 

[wendy malley]

In that case,yes.x

 

[snowwhite13]

Thanks Wendy,

If I ever become good at it I would do a proper course with a well known course provider, but I don't see me ever want to turn it into a business, I don't have the confidence,

Thanks for your help everyone,

Laura

 

[Exquisite Touch]

I happen to think that nails are a skill and are hard to master whether you do a 4 day course or more, its down to the amount of practice you are prepared to put in! The ASP courses are structured to give you the best training possible in 4 days with a product that is finally finding its feet in the industry, good luck!

 

[Belle Beauty]

I did the ASP training in June. At the time I thought it was quite thorough, but I'm starting to think it omitted some vital points!

My biggest complaint is that, whilst there was a small group of just five people, I was the only one learning Gels. All the others were learning acrylics. Because of this, there was not enough emphasis on the application techniques specific to the Gel system. 6 months down the line, I am still having the same problems with nails coming off and I have no way of properly learning the correct application method without paying to do the training again. I was also not correctly trained in the removal and only found the correct method in my training notes!

I have spoken to the staff in my local Sallys where I did the training and to ASP staff at the Olympia Show, and both told me that I will get it with practice and experience. I am not naive enough to think I would be an expert after just 4 days training. But I still don't feel as if any of them have listened to the point I was making. I would like to think I'm a fairly intellegent woman, so did not like they way they spoke to me as if I was completely stupid.

My other annoyance is that you are trained using the T3 gels, but they aren't the only type of gels available. Yet there was nothing said about the differences between that product and any of the others. I didn't expect them to waste precious time during the training to cover all of these points, but it would have been nice to have some info in the training manual.

Having now spoken to other friends who have gone on to learn gels, I am looking to retrain with Bio Sculture as I fel they have a much thorough training programme and (very importantly) customer service staff.

So would I recommend this training programme? I would have to say no!

 

[Little-em]

I did the ASP training in June. At the time I thought it was quite thorough, but I'm starting to think it omitted some vital points!

My biggest complaint is that, whilst there was a small group of just five people, I was the only one learning Gels. All the others were learning acrylics. Because of this, there was not enough emphasis on the application techniques specific to the Gel system. 6 months down the line, I am still having the same problems with nails coming off and I have no way of properly learning the correct application method without paying to do the training again. I was also not correctly trained in the removal and only found the correct method in my training notes!

I have spoken to the staff in my local Sallys where I did the training and to ASP staff at the Olympia Show, and both told me that I will get it with practice and experience. I am not naive enough to think I would be an expert after just 4 days training. But I still don't feel as if any of them have listened to the point I was making. I would like to think I'm a fairly intellegent woman, so did not like they way they spoke to me as if I was completely stupid.

My other annoyance is that you are trained using the T3 gels, but they aren't the only type of gels available. Yet there was nothing said about the differences between that product and any of the others. I didn't expect them to waste precious time during the training to cover all of these points, but it would have been nice to have some info in the training manual.

Having now spoken to other friends who have gone on to learn gels, I am looking to retrain with Bio Sculture as I fel they have a much thorough training programme and (very importantly) customer service staff.

So would I recommend this training programme? I would have to say no!

I have to agree, I saved up for ages then did the sally's course, we learnt 3 techniques in 2 days!! L&P gel and silk, I still dont know how to infill or remove correctly, I felt it was really rushed and the ASP products are a bit of a let down. I now have to wait to save up more money then will go on a 'proper' course.
However if its just to do your own nails then yes it will be fine, just be warned, I have been practising for over a month and my nails still ping off, not sure if thats technique or product!
Its not as cheap as you may think either as after paying for the course, you need to buy the kit, lamp, brushes, tips as the ones in the kit are pants, clippers, the list is endless!

 

[Saddlesore]

Bought some brushes to play with as I like to do a lot of art and glitter work etc....took them back over and over again as they were really bad quality,hairs shedding left right and center,paint off the handle coming off on to my hands and staining.

My way of thinking is you get what you pay for and training is no different.

If you make the wrong choice its all money wasted...pay more for a longer/different course and you wont be sorry.

If you get rubbish training you will have that handicap and that puts may off nails forever.

Do thorough research and look at all your options and ensure your equipped with knowledge...afterall knowledge is power right?

hth xx

 

[Envy]

My way of thinking is you get what you pay for and training is no different.

If you make the wrong choice its all money wasted...pay more for a longer/different course and you wont be sorry.

If you get rubbish training you will have that handicap and that puts may off nails forever.

Do thorough research and look at all your options and ensure your equipped with knowledge...afterall knowledge is power right?

This is spot on !!!! Wise words indeeed

 

[angel fingers]

I did the ASP training in June. At the time I thought it was quite thorough, but I'm starting to think it omitted some vital points!

My biggest complaint is that, whilst there was a small group of just five people, I was the only one learning Gels. All the others were learning acrylics. Because of this, there was not enough emphasis on the application techniques specific to the Gel system. 6 months down the line, I am still having the same problems with nails coming off and I have no way of properly learning the correct application method without paying to do the training again. I was also not correctly trained in the removal and only found the correct method in my training notes!

I have spoken to the staff in my local Sallys where I did the training and to ASP staff at the Olympia Show, and both told me that I will get it with practice and experience. I am not naive enough to think I would be an expert after just 4 days training. But I still don't feel as if any of them have listened to the point I was making. I would like to think I'm a fairly intellegent woman, so did not like they way they spoke to me as if I was completely stupid.

My other annoyance is that you are trained using the T3 gels, but they aren't the only type of gels available. Yet there was nothing said about the differences between that product and any of the others. I didn't expect them to waste precious time during the training to cover all of these points, but it would have been nice to have some info in the training manual.

Having now spoken to other friends who have gone on to learn gels, I am looking to retrain with Bio Sculture as I fel they have a much thorough training programme and (very importantly) customer service staff.

So would I recommend this training programme? I would have to say no!

i think you got a rough deal. as a trainer i would never put gel students in the same class as l/p acrylic students.
obviously a lot of information is pertainent to both products, but the application is so totally different.
i think it would be very confusing for the students and no mean feat for the teacher.

as you were the minority in the class i can undersatand how you drew the short straw in terms of demos and attention.

 

[Belle Beauty]

i think you got a rough deal. as a trainer i would never put gel students in the same class as l/p acrylic students.
obviously a lot of information is pertainent to both products, but the application is so totally different.
i think it would be very confusing for the students and no mean feat for the teacher.

as you were the minority in the class i can undersatand how you drew the short straw in terms of demos and attention.

Thanks for those words, the staff in Sallys (well, one lady in particular) has made me feel like I either didn't listen or chose to ignore some of the training. I am seriously considering stopping offering any extensions until I've retrained.

I constantly have exactly the same problem and I think I know what I'm doing wrong (thanks to advice I've found on here), but I don't know the correct way to apply the gel, so practice will make no difference!