Client eye complaint

[stoney]

I have had three clients in the last 6 months who have developed a problems after having their nails done. The symptoms seem to start several hours after they have left the salon, often during the night.

Sore/painful eyes
eyes streaming
bloodshot

Then after 24 hrs or so it just goes away??

What on earth could it be? I'm really worried.

I called NSI and they said they haven't changed anything in their products, and my salon is well ventilated.

2 of these clients have been coming to me for along time, so I dont understand why this has happened out of the blue.

 

[del3]

hiya,
not saying that it is but it does sound like they may have delelovep a sensitivity due to possible overeposure over a period of time.
Only saying this because i have these symptoms(and more lol) alsmost every working day now ( down to my ignorence of corect/safe working procedures)
:hug:

 

[marioned]

Do all these clients have tips? It could be the fumes (or is it fumes I mean? Keep getting my knickers in a twist about the terminology after that thread! LOL) from the adhesive. It sometimes stings my eyes, and I've heard on this site quite a few people saying this is what sets off their overexposure symptoms. x

 

[*Ang*]

This might sound silly but they're not contact lens wearers are they?? I'm just wondering because if my husband doesn't wash his hands before he takes his out (at night) he suffers the same with his eyes being sore etc. Just a thought :hug:

 

[1999judy]

Try getting them to wear some of the eye protection from Mundo and see if it makes a difference??
Could it be dust?
protective eye wear

 

[xAnnaBannAx]

This might sound silly but they're not contact lens wearers are they?? I'm just wondering because if my husband doesn't wash his hands before he takes his out (at night) he suffers the same with his eyes being sore etc. Just a thought :hug:

Thats not silly...contact lenses shouldnt be worn in a salon or during a service due to the potential of fine dust and VAPOURS (marioned lol) being trapped behind the contact lense and sitting on the eye x

 

[stoney]

I will check about contact lenses again, but I ask that at the consultation, so no I don't think so.

I am always really careful about dust/vapours, I have vents in the desks and another one near at floor level. My desks are cleaned inbetween with Mundo wipes and new towel for each client etc.

Maybe just have to pay extra attention and get some protective eyewear as Judy said.

Thanks guys

 

[marioned]

VAPOURS!!! Now I remember! If I can remember the two words at the same time I'm OK, I know which is which. If I can only remember one word, I'm lost! LOL I'm a Granny now you know, we are allowed to be a bit forgetful. LOL

P.S. Did I tell you I am a Granny now?

 

[xAnnaBannAx]

congratulations granny lol x you need to think of a stupid song to help you remember!

 

[geeg]

Do these clients wear enamel polish colour??

Many people are allergic to formaldehyde in some polishes and on touching their eyes in the first few hours after having their nails polished can have a reaction like the one you describe.

Do your clients always wash their hands after the service you give them? They should. If there is any residue of monomer on their fingers or the nail surface this could also be another possible cause of irritation.

Unless you are making heaps and heaps of dust, I doubt very much that any contact lens wearing CLIENTS need to wear safety glasses.

Unless you are working WAY over the safe levels with your monomer, I doubt that the VAPOURS lol: Marioned) would affect them at all. If you are working at normal pace, not wiping your brush on your table towel, and covering your dappen dish when finished using it (no pumps) the amount of vapour you produce should be minimal.

 

[stoney]

Do these clients wear enamel polish colour??

Many people are allergic to formaldehyde in some polishes and on touching their eyes in the first few hours after having their nails polished can have a reaction like the one you describe.

Do your clients always wash their hands after the service you give them? They should. If there is any residue of monomer on their fingers or the nail surface this could also be another possible cause of irritation.

Unless you are making heaps and heaps of dust, I doubt very much that any contact lens wearing CLIENTS need to wear safety glasses.

Unless you are working WAY over the safe levels with your monomer, I doubt that the VAPOURS lol: Marioned) would affect them at all. If you are working at normal pace, not wiping your brush on your table towel, and covering your dappen dish when finished using it (no pumps) the amount of vapour you produce should be minimal.

No, none of these clients wear nail polish, and I have recently had a conversation with Fiona Wallace re formaldehyde as I have a client who is allergic, so it's not that.

The only other connection is coloured l&P, but could there be anything in that??

I must admit though, I do not get my clients to wash their hands after a treatment. I have never even thought about it. Do you do this with manicure/file & polish clients aswell??

I am careful wth dust/vapours as I said, so maybe it is the residue.

 

[geeg]

No I don't ask clients to wash after a manicure !! :lol: Their hands would already be clean wouldn't they?

But I always ask a client to wash after they have had a rebalance or full set! Of course I do. Then I apply a small amount of Solar Butter or Solar Silk and massage it into the hands. After that we polish or not as the case may be.

Everyone should also always wash their hands between clients and then use Cool Blue. It seems absolutely basic hygiene as well as basic good manners to me.

 

[stoney]

No I don't ask clients to wash after a manicure !! :lol: Their hands would already be clean wouldn't they?

But I always ask a client to wash after they have had a rebalance or full set! Of course I do. Then I apply a small amount of Solar Butter or Solar Silk and massage it into the hands. After that we polish or not as the case may be.

Everyone should also always wash their hands between clients and then use Cool Blue. It seems absolutely basic hygiene as well as basic good manners to me.

No, I didn't think you did thats why I asked , you were talking about polish and then went on to ask if my clients washed their hands after 'the service'. So..YES my clients wash their hands after enhancements but before polish/glaze and go or oil.

And I wash my hands, sanitise my table and change my towel BEFORE each client! and I think my manners are fine.

 

[stoney]

Just wanted to update as think its something to watch out for:

After much investigation and confirmation from my educator we discovered that the problem was with my gel lamp. The doctors were saying my clients had 'Arc or welders eye'.

My husband is an electrician and I asked him to see if his wholesalers sold the correct lamp, which they did. 9 watt bulb for gel lamp...however we have since discovered that as the lamp is clear and not frosted, it was the brightness of the lamp burning the surface of my clients eyes when they looked at their nails under the lamp. It also happened to me when I was curing some nail art tips. Another client received a minor burn to her foot getting gel toes done.

This is very scary and I have learned a very valuable lesson. I have explained the situation to the affected clients and luckily they are happy. I also promptly disposed of the bulb!!

Thanks for all your help, just glad I got it sorted before anyone else was affected!

 

[minky]

Hi I have been following this thread
and wow , that really is shocking , I would never have thought that would ever have been the problem , good job you and your hubby found out,

just goes to show us all that we can never be too careful with lamps and bulbs

golly you never know when an a possible insurance claim can crop up

I am so glad you found out , :hug:
thank you for udating us all