express lashes - help

[leemac]

Evening geeks
I am puzzled. I am about to book an express lash course with Ah francis and was under the impression that the concept was the same or very similar to blink & go. I as far as I have read in previous post blink & go still involves isolating and attaching to a single lash. Can someone please clarify this for me? Its just I am doing a bit of research and the express lashes involves attaching to more than one lash. Can anyone shed some light on to either treatment please. Many thanks,
Lee-Anne

 

[Chelliesnails]

Hi,

I've trained with AH Francis for 3D lashes (Lash on Lash) and recently Express Lashes. They are not the same. 3D are for clients who wish to wear extensions long term. Express Lashes are not individual, they are designed for a client going out for the evening or on holiday etc. Can only be worn for appx 2 weeks. Yes lashes can be attached to more than one natural lash. They are a fab why into introducing your clients to lash extensions. Express lashes can also give clients fuller more glam look then they could get with individuals. Hope this helps.

 

[TweezerHappy]

Hi,

I've trained with AH Francis for 3D lashes (Lash on Lash) and recently Express Lashes. They are not the same. 3D are for clients who wish to wear extensions long term. Express Lashes are not individual, they are designed for a client going out for the evening or on holiday etc. Can only be worn for appx 2 weeks. Yes lashes can be attached to more than one natural lash. They are a fab why into introducing your clients to lash extensions. Express lashes can also give clients fuller more glam look then they could get with individuals. Hope this helps.

Would you say express lashes from AH Francis are similar to the tehnique used in Blink and Go?

Do you have any before and after pics you wouldn't mind sharing.

I'm quite interested in doing this. I agree with you it could be a way to get people to try lashes then convert them to eyelash extensions.

 

[cabinkel]

I have recently done some "express lash" training, and although I can see the benefits of using it WITHIN a set of "traditional" lash extensions, I would still shy away from doing this method as a whole set. That is just my personal opinion, and what I feel comfortable doing within my own business. I do feel that if lash extensions are your main business, as they are mine, then you should have knowledge and training on all methods of application. This will also allow you to make decisions if they are for you and your business. This method still worries me, I have to be honest:Scared:

 

[TweezerHappy]

I have recently done some "express lash" training, and although I can see the benefits of using it WITHIN a set of "traditional" lash extensions, I would still shy away from doing this method as a whole set. That is just my personal opinion, and what I feel comfortable doing within my own business. I do feel that if lash extensions are your main business, as they are mine, then you should have knowledge and training on all methods of application. This will also allow you to make decisions if they are for you and your business. This method still worries me, I have to be honest:Scared:

Great feedback. Who did you train with?

 

[Chelliesnails]

Hi, I'm a a Nail Tech, Beauty and Holistic Therapist. Lashes aren't my main business but they are an important part. I do lots indivdual lashes but Express are for the people who have a limited budget or want a fuller look for a special occassion. I know people are concerned about Express Lashes, I remember how I was before I did the course, as you go against the way you was taught before but with correct advice and proper professional removal they are fab. If you have a client who wants really full stand out lashes but doesnt have the amount of natural lashes to get that look, express will give it to them, but not for long term wear. Evenings out, Prom nights etc. They are not promoted the same as individuals. But in my experience once they start with express they come back and have individuals from then on, with the exception of clients with sparce lashes, where sometimes indivduals can show how little lashes they have got.

I don't know Blink and go method so can't comment.
But like all things new it takes time to get used to the idea.

 

[TweezerHappy]

Hi, I'm a a Nail Tech, Beauty and Holistic Therapist. Lashes aren't my main business but they are an important part. I do lots indivdual lashes but Express are for the people who have a limited budget or want a fuller look for a special occassion. I know people are concerned about Express Lashes, I remember how I was before I did the course, as you go against the way you was taught before but with correct advice and proper professional removal they are fab. If you have a client who wants really full stand out lashes but doesnt have the amount of natural lashes to get that look, express will give it to them, but not for long term wear. Evenings out, Prom nights etc. They are not promoted the same as individuals. But in my experience once they start with express they come back and have individuals from then on, with the exception of clients with sparce lashes, where sometimes indivduals can show how little lashes they have got.

I don't know Blink and go method so can't comment.
But like all things new it takes time to get used to the idea.

Do your clients come back for removal?

I always find naturally sparse lashes a difficult one so if it helps there then that's good.

 

[cabinkel]

Out of curiosity, Im hoping anyone who offers this system could answer a question:green:
I get that you charge say, £30/£40 for the express lashes, that take min of 30 mins with application and consultation. It has also been suggested that this price would include the pricing for the full removal at 2 weeks. Now, I have done full removals once or twice, and they can take 10-15 mins, maybe even 20 if I condition the lashes and give aftercare. So, total service time is an hour approx. I dont see these as any shorter in clients time, and def not greatly profitable (more costs involved in express lash as more products used ie remover, microbrushes, lash conditioner etc)! Am i looking at this too simply? Im a great believer in knowing costs and unit price, so my curious brain would love to hear any "express lash" providers experience of this. Many thanks in advance xxxx

 

[lulubell]

Sorry to butt in but what do the express lashes look like? I was wondering if the are like the w lashes? Thanks XX

 

[cabinkel]

Hi lulubell, the w lash is something else altogether
the "express lash" is the generic term for the new, non-isolating methods coming out at the mo, ie blink and go etc. hth x

 

[leemac]

Hi again and thankyou to everyone for the replies.
Sassylashes thanks for making those points about the cost, time, removal etc ....... these are things that I have been thinking about. I also have really struggled to find pictures of these lashes either pictures of what the actual lashes look like or a completed set on a client. What do the actual lashes look like?
Lee-Anne xx

 

[TweezerHappy]

I think people that do express lashes use either Mink lashes that come on a strip or just normal eyelash extensions. I don't think they have special lashes.

The only pics I have seen are pics if Blink & Go lashes. They looked pretty good.

 

[cabinkel]

There was a geek who put a pic in the gallery of express lashes. I will attempt to locate it to reference. Generaly, lashes applied in this way do look great, I admit, but so do nss nails.................

(Not that Im suggesting in any way that they do damage, just making a point, as also tradditionaly applied lashes applied wrongly can cause damage/premature lash loss. Im not slating them before I get jumped on, phew!)

 

[cabinkel]

ok guys, found it. Its fellow geek "oddball" who posted the lovely pics of blink and go. definately an example of how nice the blink and go's can look

 

[TweezerHappy]

ok guys, found it. Its fellow geek "oddball" who posted the lovely pics of blink and go. definately an example of how nice the blink and go's can look

Yeh, they were lovely.

 

[leemac]

Thanks Sassylashes will take a look. xx

 

[Chelliesnails]

If I could figure out how to put pictures on I would. My prices for Express start at £40 including removal. The fuller and thicker the lashes are of course go up in price but will always include removal. The reason for this is that the lashes are done for a special occasion and unlike the individs they must be removed due to the non-isolation. It takes me around 30 - 40 mins for natural mascra looking lashes and around 40 - 50mins for the complete full on glam look which I charge £47. This may sound like its not worth it, but it is the look of these lashes that can't always be achieved with individs. Plus each client I have done express for have come back and moved on to individs which my prices start at £45 (for a completely natural no-makeup look) to £68.00 for full on lush lashes (providing client has enough natural lashes). Going back to express removal it takes me around 20 mins to remove them carefully, but I find then the client can't wait to get extension back on so this is where you introduce them to individs. You earn your money on return visits as they then want to carry on wearing them, maintenance and a charge for removal can then make up your revenue as I would charge for removing individs.

Going back to clients with sparce lashes just make sure that the length, thickness and curl you use aren't too heavy for them - they will be ok for a few days but will need to be taken off sooner to avoid droopy eyes!