Hair Extension training Costs

[Liv]

Hi,

I need advice here from anyone who has completed a training course.
I want to learn extensions so I can specialise in this so really want good training. I have enquired about the Balmain and Racoon courses and have received two very difference quotes.
Balmain course is £200 which is just for training. Hair etc costs extra. This is a one day course.
Racoon course is £2000 which is training, tools, salon literature, promotions, some retail aftercare etc. This is a three day course.

Has anyone attended these courses and can advise if the Racoon is much better, hence worth the extra money?

I don't know what to do!!!

Please help!

Liv

 

[minky]

Hi,

I need advice here from anyone who has completed a training course.
I want to learn extensions so I can specialise in this so really want good training. I have enquired about the Balmain and Racoon courses and have received two very difference quotes.
Balmain course is £200 which is just for training. Hair etc costs extra. This is a one day course.
Racoon course is £2000 which is training, tools, salon literature, promotions, some retail aftercare etc. This is a three day course.

Has anyone attended these courses and can advise if the Racoon is much better, hence worth the extra money?

I don't know what to do!!!


Please help!

Liv

Hi , I think Racoon use the glue gun method ,
(which I personally find too messy for me) as I have noticed you tend to get more shedding with it than fusion , but some people love it ,

I trained with Balmain many years ago ,
Balmains training is excellent and they use a few different methods, I chose to do the fusion bonds course,
which is called the Colour and Design course
It was really a high quality course ,

the Balmain micro plus bonds are great, they last very well and dont cause any damage to the natural hair, the balmain connector is fab too it is slightly different from others on the market ,
it has a top part which remains cool , this keeps the bond from sticking to the connector and allows you to close the bond easier

with any of the above training companys you can apply certain aspects of your training to other types of hair extension and bonding systems if they are of the same method ,


The Balmaine training and technique is fab , but I dont really care much for their singles fusion pre bonded hair (but thats just my preference) it may have changed now , and others may like it ,

I now buy unprocessed hair ,
and I use my all my skills that my training provided me with,
so my training was still well worth it ,

I have a lot of unused hair left from my training kit ,
but you will need all the other stuff in the Balmain kit though ,
thats if you decide to go ahead with them
good luck with your choice :hug: minky x

perhaps someone who is Racoon trained can help more too ,
you could pm Carl from remy hair | Hair Extensions Supplier
he is also highly qualified and racoon trained :hug:

 

[Liv]

Thanks for your advice Minky. I think Racoon is just tooo expensive and give you lots of equipment, literatire I don't think I actually need.

Have you or anyone heard about the K M Extension Training or Michelle Griffin?
As they seem quite expensive, I really don't want to make a costly mistake in choosing the wrong course.

Thanks in advance!

 

[minky]

Thanks for your advice Minky. I think Racoon is just tooo expensive and give you lots of equipment, literatire I don't think I actually need.

Have you or anyone heard about the K M Extension Training or Michelle Griffin?
As they seem quite expensive, I really don't want to make a costly mistake in choosing the wrong course.

Thanks in advance!

I have heard good things about Michelle Griffin
and I have heard she sells really good hair too
but I don't really know from personal experience ,
here is a link that may help you ,
http://www.salongeek.com/hair-geek/46404-hair-extension-training.html?highlight=Km+hair+extensions
perhaps a few others on here may know some more from personal experience
good luck :hug: x

 

[lancashirelass]

You could try Cinderella Hair Extension Training.
Cinderella Hair - What's Your Dream?

 

[flickandflutter]

Hi there,

I too am looking at KM hair extensions, I thought they were pretty good value compared to other companies I looked at. £499 for micro link, micro link weft and pre bonded methods plus kits.

I think with racoon you would be paying for the name.

Im not a trained hairdresser so need a course where this does not matter and KM assure me that by doing the 3 methods above I shouldnt have any trouble.

I just looked at cinderella hair but there are no prices on the website.

Looked at LUSH US and u can train in all methods for £495 plus kits , has anybody trained with them?
also looked at Home - Academy of Vocational & Professional Training Ltd but think they are quite pricey x
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[persianista]

Being a hairdresser DOES matter. A lot. If a training provider tells you it is fine to cut peoples hair with no training or qualifications then quite frankly they are fleecing you of your money.
Hair Ext DO need to be cut after application WHATEVER these companies say.

A hair ext course should include cutting.

Basic application of ext is easy and repetitive, making them look great is slightly more skilled.

 

[lucelasticx]

Hi there,

I too am looking at KM hair extensions, I thought they were pretty good value compared to other companies I looked at. £499 for micro link, micro link weft and pre bonded methods plus kits.

I think with racoon you would be paying for the name.

Im not a trained hairdresser so need a course where this does not matter and KM assure me that by doing the 3 methods above I shouldnt have any trouble.

I just looked at cinderella hair but there are no prices on the website.

Looked at LUSH US and u can train in all methods for £495 plus kits , has anybody trained with them?
also looked at Home - Academy of Vocational & Professional Training Ltd but think they are quite pricey x
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With Racoon you HAVE to be a qualified hairdresser to be trained by them. So yes you are paying for the name but anyone who is provided with Genuine Raccon Hair Extensions will know they are being dealt with by a proffesional.

You need to be a competant hairdresser to provide extensions of exitinction.

 

[sarahjane13]

I can vouch for Lush Us. Their training is good, their hair is lovely and their customer service is amazing!
Sarah

 

[minky]

Im not a trained hairdresser so need a course where this does not matter and KM assure me that by doing the 3 methods above I shouldnt have any trouble.
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Hi Sorry, but I totally disagree with this too :sad: !.....
if your not a hairdresser ...... then you will struggle and worry about the cutting .... and you will always have trouble cutting and blending your extensions ,
you may be able to place them in to make them look ok or put colours together to make them look kinda blended
but that's all they will be ...... they will always just look kinda ok !

and no matter how hard you try they will never quite look professional, because you will always be scared to cut them properly ...... plus your own clients and others will notice they lack a certain natural swish and movement to them .... which only a professional hairdresser can achieve .... and believe me it needs a trained eye
to cut and blend hair extensions so the client can have versatility to style and re style it ....

Hair extensions are so much harder to cut than a clients normal head of hair .... every little step in the cut will show up if you don't know what you are doing .... also you will not learn anywhere near enough cutting techniques to be be able to understand them let alone master them .

Cutting is an art, and no two heads of extensions are ever the same mostly it has to be done by eye which takes training and
experience .... cutting hair extensions requires so much more attention to detail and there is no way you can afford to make a mistake with hair they have just paid a lot of money for .....

All would be hair extensionists should take persianista luclelastix and hopefully my advice too and go get trained up as a professional hairdresser first .... hth minky

 

[jotommo]

answer to your question balmain course is worth every penny, it'll teach you everything you need to know about fitting the extensions, they do teach you how to blend with a razor and shape the front but seriously if you want to do well you need a cutting course too.

this is not to anyone in particular....... but i cannot beleive that anyone that does not have the first clue into hairdressing would like to do a specialist field in this proffession????
of course we (hair pro's) can learn it in a day because we know the whole struture of the hair, the way things need to be cut to sit right ect...
i have 9 years exp in hair and i have seen some really shoddy work by these one day course cowboys and it p**ses me off!!
if your going to learn trade go and learn one COMPLETLY!!
ok rant over

be gentle with me i'm hormonal lol

xxx

 

[angel fingers]

i can see why someone wouldnt realise how important the cutting skills are. its the way the courses are often advertised, same as nail courses that say they can teach you in a day too.
until you are already in the profession courses like these appear to be excellent value for money, it seems like you willl learn more faster and for less expense but its not until you have experience that you understand they are not all they seem to be.

i do agree that you need the cutting skills to produce excellent results, just playing devils advocate here, i can see why people wouldnt realise its neccessary.

 

[flickandflutter]

i agree with you angel fingers I think if companies want you to be hairdresser qualified they should say rather than leading you on.


I did manicures, pedicures and nail extensions in my NVQ beauty but there are still soo many courses out there where you don't need 2 b beauty trained to do these courses and they are over 1 day and have accreditation like companys such as carlton so I just assumed it was the same for hair extensions. There are nail techs popping up all over the place too.

i understand where people are coming from (although i think they could have had more tact) and i am now looking into a hair course, would a diploma or nvq (both level 2) be better?

 

[leonnib]

i agree with you angel fingers I think if companies want you to be hairdresser qualified they should say rather than leading you on.


I did manicures, pedicures and nail extensions in my NVQ beauty but there are still soo many courses out there where you don't need 2 b beauty trained to do these courses and they are over 1 day and have accreditation like companys such as carlton so I just assumed it was the same for hair extensions. There are nail techs popping up all over the place too.

i understand where people are coming from (although i think they could have had more tact) and i am now looking into a hair course, would a diploma or nvq (both level 2) be better?

i guess its true that if companies are offering it people will do it as the company are telling them thats its fine.. so not really there fault imo
there are places that wont do it unless you have an nvq 1 or 2 though maybe this should be a general rule.. so at least the person has some knowledge in cutting as you dont learn much cutting in these courses and ive done quite a few..
if i was going to get into training i would defintely make this a criteria.

good luck with it anyway

 

[persianista]

i agree with you angel fingers I think if companies want you to be hairdresser qualified they should say rather than leading you on.


I did manicures, pedicures and nail extensions in my NVQ beauty but there are still soo many courses out there where you don't need 2 b beauty trained to do these courses and they are over 1 day and have accreditation like companys such as carlton so I just assumed it was the same for hair extensions. There are nail techs popping up all over the place too.

i understand where people are coming from (although i think they could have had more tact) and i am now looking into a hair course, would a diploma or nvq (both level 2) be better?

Your profile says you are a hair pro! Now you are saying that you fancy taking a qualification in hair?
Please tell us straight, are you a qualified hairdresser or not?

 

[flickandflutter]

Does it? I hadnt realised that my apologies, I will change it now! No i am not a trained hairdresser but was looking for advice, but seem to have made alot of you angry, which I get, as you are saying that it should be a level 3 qualification.

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[persianista]

I think that maybe because you dismiss a few years of training as irrelevent, and after 2 days you can do what we do!
We are ALL saying it is not possible, however you still appear to know better.

 

[flickandflutter]

I think that maybe because you dismiss a few years of training as irrelevent, and after 2 days you can do what we do!
We are ALL saying it is not possible, however you still appear to know better.

Thats not true and I dont mean to come across that way I am just saying that its not just me you should be telling this to, its the companys, the accreditors and the government for not having legislation in place.
Im not saying that hairdressing is irrelevant, I was just saying that the courses do say that you don't have to be a trained hairdresser which is misleading to a "lay" person so to speak.

 

[persianista]

Ok, a company which is in business to make money has a girl wanting to think she can be an extensionist after one of their courses. There is currently no UK legislation to say you cannot set yourself up as a hairdresser right this minute, and cut and colour people's hair.

The company knows it can take £500-600 off you for training, then buy some rubbish Indian hair for thruppence, call it Remy or temple and flog it to you with a 1000% markup.
The great thing? you wouldnt have a clue! They have children picking over rubbish dumps looking for combings out of peoples brushes, dunk it in acid and silicone and sell it to somebody like you.

When your "easy money" clients start ringing you with complaints, because believe me they will, you will give up.

I have seen it time upon time.
Minky and Lucelastic are giving you great advice, if you want to do this as a career then be a hairdresser, invest in training (raccoon for me) and do it properly. It is really the only way you will make ANY kind of money at it.

To go into this as a dopey dabbler, you are gonna get totally ripped off, and get no end of problems.

 

[flickandflutter]

Ok, a company which is in business to make money has a girl wanting to think she can be an extensionist after one of their courses. There is currently no UK legislation to say you cannot set yourself up as a hairdresser right this minute, and cut and colour people's hair.

The company knows it can take £500-600 off you for training, then buy some rubbish Indian hair for thruppence, call it Remy or temple and flog it to you with a 1000% markup.
The great thing? you wouldnt have a clue! They have children picking over rubbish dumps looking for combings out of peoples brushes, dunk it in acid and silicone and sell it to somebody like you.

When your "easy money" clients start ringing you with complaints, because believe me they will, you will give up.

I have seen it time upon time.
Minky and Lucelastic are giving you great advice, if you want to do this as a career then be a hairdresser, invest in training (raccoon for me) and do it properly. It is really the only way you will make ANY kind of money at it.

To go into this as a dopey dabbler, you are gonna get totally ripped off, and get no end of problems.

well i havent done a course, and thats y a couple of posts ago I said I was now looking into a hairdressing course after all of your comments. My local college does an NVQ level 2 and 3 or a city and guilds diploma level 2 and 3, would you suggest the nvq over the diploma? they are very similar units involved. Im not looking to make easy money, Im just looking for a career that I think I will enjoy as I would rather be happy in my work than bored. Im still going to do my eyelash extension course and the spray tanning that I looked into and then find the funds to do the hairdressing at college.
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