I'm not sure, but I think you will struggle to get insured in the UK for this service unless you are either a dental nurse or a dentist.
Not sure though, but I'm sure others will be able to help you xx
It never ceases to amaze me how some can be so irresponsible. If you want to undertake medical cosmetic procedures go to any university faculty of health and undertake the appropriate medical training. Nothing less is acceptable. The public deserve better. The number of threads on this forum from BT's who clearly think otherwise is really alarming. I know many will disagree - but at least I have a wealth of experience in this area. Please be more professional.
all teeth whitening should be carried out by a dentist!! They go to university for 5 years to learn about treating the teeth yet there are companies out there who think they can sell a machine and offer a days training to undertake this form of dentistry. The general dental council frown on non dental personnell undertaking dental work.
I am amazed that so many who should know better pass off ill infomed opinion as fact. This is not a sign of education or intelligence.
For all those who have alleged teeth whitening/bleaching is illegal - it is not. Rather than simply make this comment I will now support it with evidence so you can see for yourselves:-
Tooth whitening products were confirmed as being cosmetics on 28 June 2001 by the House of Lords ruling in the case of Optident Limited V The Secretary of State for Trade and Industry. This means that they fall under the EU Cosmetics Directive (implemented in the UK by the UK Cosmetic Products (Safety) Regulations 1996).
The legal definition of a cosmetic product is:-
any substance or preparation intended for placing in contact with the various external part of the human body or with the teeth and mucous membranes of the oral cavity with a view exclusively or principally to cleaning them, perfuming them or protecting them in order to keep them in good condition, change their appearance or correct body odours
Tooth whitening is therefore a cosmetic procedure and not a dental one.
The phrase teeth whitening and teeth bleaching is a slightly misleading term. The teeth are not bleached. The surface of the tooth under a microscope appears as a closely bunched group of hexagonal rods (imagine holding a bundle of pencils). A chemical is applied to the surface of the tooth which enters the gaps and breaks down the molecules that cause the staining eg tobacco, red wine, food etc. When the staining is gone the teeth are whiter. Its quite simple really.
The teeth whitening proceedure is no more difficult to learn that any other cosmetic treatment.
Tooth whitening has been practised by dentists for over 100 years. The history of modern day tooth bleaching, however, began in 1989 and is credited to Haywood and Heymann who introduced the nightguard method of vital tooth bleaching. At the same time, Omnii International (USA), working with a dentist named John Munro, developed and marketed the first commercially available home-bleaching product. Interestingly enough, this system was initially discovered quite by accident by an orthodontist named William Klusmier. He instructed a patient to use an oral antiseptic containing 10% carbamide peroxide in an orthodontic positioner, which the patient wore at night, in an effort to facilitate tissue healing. The patient returned with improved tissue health and, after using the product for an extended period of time, his teeth were significantly lighter in colour. He began using this technique to lighten teeth. From 1970 to 1975, Klusmier presented his findings at several dental meetings. Haywood and Haymann attended one of these meetings and initiated their clinical and laboratory investigations on the technique as a result.
If anyone has any questions please ask. If anyone has any comments please, please be intelligent about it and suppport what you say with evidence.
This is an excellent revenue generating business but only for those who are better informed over and above "my dentist told me".
If you are suggesting that only a dentist can do anything to teeth. then your train of logic (what little is there) would suggest that only a dermatologist can deal with or apply substances to skin. Is everyone who rubs creams on skin in a salon a dermatologist. Of course not.
I have no doubt that the GDC as a representative body of a particular profession has a view on this and many other things.
It is important that you understand that the GDC does not make the law in this country. The House of Lords (now called the Supreme Court) is the highest court in this land and its decisions are binding on all of us - even dentists and their representative bodies.
Please do not be shocked at this. The legal structure in the UK has been this way for hundreds of years.
I repeat that teeth whitening/bleaching or the application of a substance to the teeth with a view to cleaning them of staining is not the practise of dentistry. It is a cosmetic treatment.
This is not my view it is a statement of the law as it stands today.
Read the case at Optident Limited V The Secretary of State for Trade and Industry. Please ask me if you have any questions on this.
I can assure you that dentists do not take 5 years to learn teeth whitening or tooth structure. I would worry about the general intelligence of a person who takes this long to learn so little.
Teeth whitening and tooth structure can quite easily be taught in one day. I learnt it and I know many others who have learnt it in that time. OK so some people are a bit slower than others in the learning new information department.
Teeth whitening is teeth cleaning. Please read the information I provided as i thought it was clear. To repeat - over time staining enters the tooth structure. The whitening/bleaching chemical breaks down the stains bringing the tooth back to the colour it was before staining occured. This means the teeth are cleaner and whiter (or more ivory if that was the natutal colour). This how teeth whitening/bleaching works. This is thew way it has always worked. As previously explained nothing is actually bleached.
I'm not sure how you arrive at the conclusion that the removal of staining is not the same as cleaning. As an simple analogy try putting stained white clothes into a washing machine. Look at what happens when the stains are removed.
You say that 'some even remove the surface layer of the teeth'. As requested in my previous email it would be better if you could support any claims with evidence. Please let us know the medical journal in which you read the claim. I would like to read it also.
I am happy to answer any questions you have but please try to avoid the Sun reader mentality by making unsubstantiated claims and untruths.
I look forward to seeing evidence of the intelligence you speak of that you wish to demonstrate. In the absence of this your email reply is looking rather like an ill informed rant.
Actually, I have been looking at other posts from geeks that do not have an agenda that you clearly do. 8 posts all to do with teeth whitening? Oh and whilst we are on the subject of intelligence, you may wish to stop questioning others intellect when you cannot spell the most simple words in the dictionary.
'the amount of amateurs who undertake teeth whitening and causing damage to the teeth is unbelievable'
I did ask that comments be supported by evidence p please present objective evidence that would support this statement. If you cannot please retract it or make it clear that it is your view and you are unable to support it.
You can easily find this yourself if you are capable of searching journals, dental journals as yes they are specialty and expert in their fields. You would not expect doctors to write about dental procedures unless they are max fax qualified (in case you do not know this is dental and doctor qualification)
'so yes you, as an amateur and not qualified to do dentistry, will be in this category'
I'm not entirely sure about what is being communicated here. If you are telling us that dentists are qualified to carry out dentistry and those who are not dentists are qualified to carry out dentistry then you would be correct although really this is a statement of obvious.
So why question what is being written in the first place?
'I know about the teeth, we did health promotion'
Wow, I'm impressed. Gosh you must know so much about the teeth then. Sadly your comments do tend to suggest that you are confusing what is known, provable fact with your opinion.
You do not need to be impressed, I did more than a day of training in health promotion pertaining to the oral cavity. I worked in healthcare for 7 years, I personally do not know as much as a dentist but I bet everything I own that they know more about teeth than you. There is no confusion here, you are not a dentist you do not know about teeth, fact!!
'but am I qualified to do anything that actually touches the teeth, no and neither are you! FACT'
I feel like you have not read or not understood my previous posts about the legal decision made on teeth whitening in the case of Optident. I offered to explain it to anyone who was not sure. To repeat from numerous previous posts - you are qualified to do things that touch the teeth. And so am I. In fact we all are. I repeat that teeth whitening/bleaching or the application of a substance to the teeth with a view to cleaning them of staining is not the practise of dentistry. It is a cosmetic treatment. This is not my view it is a statement of the law as it stands today. Read the case at Optident Limited V The Secretary of State for Trade and Industry. Please ask me if you have any questions on this.
You do like copying and pasting don't you? Anyway, what I have previously said is fact, bleaching is not deep cleaning otherwise dentists would themselves advertise it as this. GDC would not also be campaigning against non qualifed people i.e. you, doing dental procedures again i.e. anything pertaining to teeth. You can quote anything and be as derogatory as you like, fact is you are trying to justify your actions and protecting a business on line and will do and say anything to do so. How low!
'Even doctors cannot do anything that has anything to do with the teeth or gums for the same reason'
Do you have evidence to support this claim. I rather suspect this is not true. While doctors may prefer to send a patient to a dentist for denatl treatment I doubt that a doctor 'cannot do anything al all' as you claim.
Wow, you really are not living in the real world are you? Do you know dentists and doctors at all? Dentists deal with the oral cavity, doctors deal with the body except the oral cavity unless they are dual qualified. FACT!!! How do I know, my colleagues are a dentist, a doctor and a max fax professional. I have mentored doctors, dentists and dual qualified professionals and have worked in the NHS both medically and dental related positions. How much experience do you possess? Doctors are not qualified to deal with teeth, this extends beyond their expertise as a general rule of thumb again unless they are qualified as a dentist and a doctor (9 years incidentally).
'Teeth whitening does not clean the teeth'
What an odd statement to make. I'm beginning to think you definately did not read or understand my previous posts. As previously explained - over time staining enters the tooth structure. The whitening/bleaching chemical breaks down the stains bringing the tooth back to the colour it was before staining occured. This means the teeth are cleaner and whiter (or more ivory if that was the natutal colour). This how teeth whitening/bleaching works. This is the way it has always worked.
See previous point, no misunderstanding on my behalf either.
'I don't know how many times I see people like you advertising this treatment and before you know it they are gone to avoid come back.'
Here at last you are correct - you do not know how many times you see people like me advertising this treatment. If you do not know something then either do not say it or ask. For the record I have not advertised 'this treatment' on this forum. My salon has been running successfully for over 5 years and I have many satisfied clients.
You have clearly been wrong on many levels so do not state that I am correct here finally. In promoting non dental professionals operate teeth whitening procedures you are advertising it by default, should I make it simpler for you? To your last comment, should I whoop for joy here, how many people have you ruined teeth and they have not come back to complain?
This does happen, I don't know how many clients I see on a weekly basis who have had treatments undertaken by others and have not gone back to complain, many just put it down to experience and do not go back.
'Also, you mention medical journals, well I think you mean dental journals don't you?'
Definition of medical and dental indicated above, so yes you do.
'please feel to find information from dentists on how the likes of unqualified people who have damaged people's teeth by undertaking these procedures'
If you are presenting something as fact then it is really you that should be presenting the evidence that woulds suuport that fact. Let us all know the name of the journal (medical or dental) where you read this information that you presenting.
Dental! As i said previous, you don't need to look far to find this information yourself, it is readily available. Or better still why not carry out a survey at dentists and get it from the voice of the experts?
'the GDC have such strict rules on who can carry out dentistry.'
Actually the rules about who can carry out the practise of dentistry is contained within the Dentists Act. Although I'm not sure how this is relevant as the House of Lords decided in the Optident case that teeth whitening is not the practise of dentistry it is a cosmetic procedure.
So why are they promoting the prosecution of people undertaking dental procedures when they are not qualified dentists?
'so what other dental procedure could you be reported for, erm teeth whitening perhaps?'
I'm not sure how this is relevant as the House of Lords decided in the Optident case that teeth whitening is not the practise of dentistry it is a cosmetic procedure. I feel like I have siad this to many times to count and still it struggles to enter your thinking processes what few you have demonstrated.
You really do need to get a new line of thinking, I am not goaded by your attempted put down. I can see by your self projection that you are not as clued up as you think and in some ways I really do pity you. Other ways I just think you are not worth the time of day. either way you really do need to go back and revisit basic English!
'I did not mean that they take 5 years learning about teeth'
Actually you implied that dentists spend 5 years learning about teeth whitening.
Ok, no I didn't. Look at previous posts and read it properly.
Look, I'm happy to help answer any questions you or anyone has but you really must stop ranting ill informed comment and trying to pass it off as fact. You may of an age or character where this would be difficult but with perseverance I am sure you would be able to listen and take on board the evidence. Good luck.
I don't have any questions for you, if I have any questions relating to any dental procedures I will speak to an appropriate qualified expert... a dentist. You may be certified by a company selling teeth whitening products to carry out this treatment, but does that mean you are qualified? No it doesn't. Can you identify if a tooth that is not suitable for whitening, again I will say no because you went on a ONE day course to learn to use the equipment and with maybe an hour of theory? Please do not bother to reply, we have a difference of opinion, mine is PROFESSIONAL, yours in FINANCIAL
Good luck with the health promotion. I think it must be something I help to pay for via my taxes as it doesn't really sound like a viable business model.