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Hi,
Can anyone enlighten me on this one please. I have just been told by the guy who runs the local beauty suppliers that sometimes you do not need to put primer on nails ready for enhancements. You only have to put primer on dry nails. Well we were never told this at college. We were told to always apply primer. He says that if you have oily nails, you do not need to use primer, you just etch the nail tip and apply the tip with glue & apply product. This is why enhancements will stay on longer because nails only have primer on when needed.
Is this true or should you always apply primer. if so, how do you tell the difference between dry and oily nails. We were never taught this at college.
I am now puzzled.
Flo.
 

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I think you should always stick to your manufacturers recommendations. If the product you use says to use primer then you should use it.

Hope that helps.
 

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If your products recommend primer then prime.. just dont over prime.. ((I learnt the hard way!) it can cause lifting.. ((and risk over-exposure)).
 

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If this is a beauty suppliers rather that a professionl supplier no wonder they are telling you basic Crap!!!!! if they are not nail specialists - if they are specialist they should be sacked.......
Speak to the technical people at the product company - i dispair*********************
 

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Hi,
Can anyone enlighten me on this one please. I have just been told by the guy who runs the local beauty suppliers that sometimes you do not need to put primer on nails ready for enhancements. You only have to put primer on dry nails. Well we were never told this at college. We were told to always apply primer. He says that if you have oily nails, you do not need to use primer, you just etch the nail tip and apply the tip with glue & apply product. This is why enhancements will stay on longer because nails only have primer on when needed.
Is this true or should you always apply primer. if so, how do you tell the difference between dry and oily nails. We were never taught this at college.
I am now puzzled.
Flo.
Sounds like this guy has a full nappy :)
 

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Sounds to me like they'd run out of primer and he was trying to fob you off! If you were taught to prime, then prime.
x
 

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I think you should always stick to your manufacturers recommendations. If the product you use says to use primer then you should use it.

Hope that helps.
I agree always stick to manufacturers instructions some products such a retention needs no primer. And other products such as Young Nails use a protine bond which is much kinder to the natural nails rather than an acid base primer.

:hug:Hope this helps
 

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i agree follow the manufactures directions some are keratin acrylic bonding agents, some primers acid or no acid. some you do two thin layers some just one. If you over use it, it can have reverse effects and cause lifting and overexposure like already stated.
 

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Thanks girls. I think i will stick to what i was taught. Prime every time. He hasn`t been to college but obviously running a beauty suppliers, he has to know something about what he is selling. They have a professional nail tech from CND come in once a month and tell them all about the products, so obviously the products that do not need a primer are as one of you say, are expensive products that do not need a primer. But yeh, i will continue to prime.
flo. x.:eek:
 

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I agree always stick to manufacturers instructions some products such a retention needs no primer. And other products such as Young Nails use a protine bond which is much kinder to the natural nails rather than an acid base primer.

:hug:Hope this helps
Acid primers aren't detramental or harsh on the natural nail when used correctly. :)

so obviously the products that do not need a primer are as one of you say, are expensive products that do not need a primer. But yeh, i will continue to prime.
flo. x.:eek:
Not necessarily the case, cost of higher end products aren't really that much different set per set, just a matter of pence. If your system requires primer, prime away!
 

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If your products recommend primer then prime.. just dont over prime.. ((I learnt the hard way!) it can cause lifting.. ((and risk over-exposure)).
I just started usinf ezflow q moomer which requires a primer...never used one before, am really nervous using it anyway as it is new territory but didn't know you could CAUSE lifting by over priming...how do you know how much to apply?
i drain the brush then dab it on a paper towel then apply to the nail. for some lift prone clients i have doing a second coat of primer...as the exflow instructions say to do anyway...will this CAUSE lifting now?

changing product is scary!!!
 

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I agree that you should follow the instructions as every system is different, but I would be more likely to apply primer to OILY nails (that are more likely to lift) than to dry nails?!
 

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I just started usinf ezflow q moomer which requires a primer...never used one before, am really nervous using it anyway as it is new territory but didn't know you could CAUSE lifting by over priming...how do you know how much to apply?
i drain the brush then dab it on a paper towel then apply to the nail. for some lift prone clients i have doing a second coat of primer...as the exflow instructions say to do anyway...will this CAUSE lifting now?

changing product is scary!!!
Over Priming with an acid primer will thin the nail plate gradually, so the product has little chance of adhering so increasing lifting . Remember that priming shold only happen on new nail, so if you remove lifted product during rebalance only prime new growth
 

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I just started usinf ezflow q moomer which requires a primer...never used one before, am really nervous using it anyway as it is new territory but didn't know you could CAUSE lifting by over priming...how do you know how much to apply?
i drain the brush then dab it on a paper towel then apply to the nail. for some lift prone clients i have doing a second coat of primer...as the exflow instructions say to do anyway...will this CAUSE lifting now?

changing product is scary!!!
You're doing everything right hun and as KS said only prime the new nail growth on rebalance, well there wouldn't be any old nail anyways!.....apart from any thinning of the nail plate from over priming it will likely break down your existing product and cause it to yellow!
 

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I just started usinf ezflow q moomer which requires a primer...never used one before, am really nervous using it anyway as it is new territory but didn't know you could CAUSE lifting by over priming...how do you know how much to apply?
i drain the brush then dab it on a paper towel then apply to the nail. for some lift prone clients i have doing a second coat of primer...as the exflow instructions say to do anyway...will this CAUSE lifting now?

changing product is scary!!!
I havn't used Eziflow.. but i do know that once i have applied primer sparingly and it has dried sort of chalky.. im good to go. I always try and get a feel for my products.. so just keep going.. if you drain the brush well you shouldnt have to dab it on a towel.. I am learning that the less product you have lurking on surfaces the less likely you will have smell/exposure hazards..
The better your prep the less primer you need.. IMO!:green:
 

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