Extremely Oily Nail Plate

[Deejay]

Hi All,

I have a new client with very oily nail plate. Last week during prep I double dehydrated the nail plate with nsi nail pure plus and applied acid-free primer prior to applying gel sculptures. The big problem is nearly all her nails have come off and she is returning to me this evening. I know the problem of the nails falling off is my fault and to due to bad prep work but what I need advice on is how to ensure the nail plate is dehydrated enough. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Deejay

 

[stoney]

Hi Deejay, great to have another Scot on the board!!:lol:

I use NSI balance, and you shouldn't need to use primer? That's for L&P, It's balance bond for the gel?

Maybe just a mis-type but thought I'd say just in case.

Hth's

 

[Deejay]

Sorry it was a typo - but meaning same thing that it's acid free. Any idea what I could do. After the first cleanse with nail pure I could see the moisture surfacing...never had a client with this amount of moisture on the nail plate. I'm really worried about doing another set of nails for her in case the same thing happens.

 

[stoney]

I would try again, prep really well, dehydrate and if your sculpting then you can dehydrate each nail individually again, just before you apply product. Make sure you really scrub the nail with the nail pure plus, to the point where you can hear it squeaking!!

Don't be too hard on yourself though, it's not necessarily your fault, not everyone can wear enhancements.

I have a client like this, who has extremely oily skin/nails/hair and she now only has enhancements for special occasions and has them removed after.

 

[magsham]

Hi All,

I have a new client with very oily nail plate. Last week during prep I double dehydrated the nail plate with nsi nail pure plus and applied acid-free primer prior to applying gel sculptures. The big problem is nearly all her nails have come off and she is returning to me this evening. I know the problem of the nails falling off is my fault and to due to bad prep work but what I need advice on is how to ensure the nail plate is dehydrated enough. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Deejay

I think i'd be inclinded to do a nail at a time ie good scrub with nail pure, dry, balance bond then gel & cure, with the first layer. May be more time consuming but you can work on the alternative hand whilst the other is in the lamp. But then you can do the other layers as normal. Give it a go and see if it works.

I can't see what else you can do with dehydrating the nail plate, although i'm sure that there are more experinenced techs who'll have some ideas.

 

[Deejay]

Thanks for your help. I will try doing individually as suggested. Fingers and toes crossed.

Deejay

 

[NSINAILS]

A couple of things to consider:

Are you removing all of the dead cuticle from the nail plate (Vanish Cuticle Dissolve is great for that).

When using Nailpure Plus, make you rub into the sidewalls and under the free edge.

Finally, are you leaving a large enough margin around the cuticle and side walls when applying the gel?

One last thing to note, Balance Bond Primer does not dehydrate the nail. It simply acts as an adhesion promoter, and yes, it should be used with the gel system. It does help.

If you have an EXTREMELY oily client, try double-dehydrating with Nailpure Plus & Nailpure.

 

[ValencianNails]

It could be that even with the best nail prep and dehydration that your client won't be able to wear enhancements.

This thread has some good info on it....... http://www.salongeek.com/nail-geek/17753-who-has-all-these-oily-nails.html

hth's a bit

 

[LoveNatural]

The way I can tell someone has oily nails is by the condition of the nail it's self. Usually, when nails are oily, they don't break or chip as easy as others. So they usually have really gorgeous nails. Not sure if that's this case, tho.

Anyway, try again is my suggestion. And if it doesn't work no matter WHAT you do, suggest she just gets manicures every two weeks and just tell her that her nails are too good for enhancements. haha jk. But it might make her laugh.

 

[LoveNatural]

I just read that thread about oily nails and lifting.

I have no idea if the mythical "oily nail" causes lifting because I do not do enhancements. BUT some people have more moisturized nails (I guess that's a better term) then others which makes their nails grow better. And usually it's the same people with oily/olive tone skin. In my experience with natural nails this is because the nail bends instead of snapping when pressure is applied to them. And they don't peel and split like dry nails do either. That's why warm lotion manicures are so beneficial because it helps replace the missing moisture in the nails.

But like the lady said in the thread, it might just be the prep. I'm not sure because I don't have experiance with that. But if she's got gorgeous nails.... why cover 'em up?

 

[daphnehoon]

Finally, after all the good work in preping... try to avoid touching on your client's nail plate with your fingers or ask her not to touch it too. When touches it, it will be as good as starting all over again... as our fingers are oily too (can't see nor feel with our visual eyes), so once prep, do not touch on it.