Karen_SCV said:
Ive sat & watched this thread and gone through every range of emotions from interest to indignation.
Geeg:
Most of us on the site only use one type of gel, some have tried a few and we give our feedback on a question like the one Heather asked but as often happens on the site we finish up being shot down by you. I know you are passionate about all Creative products but this site is supposed to be non product related and non biased. Why, when this sort of question comes up, can you not give answers which cover the broad spectrum of knowledge you have?
To say Brisa is absolutely different from other gels in its chemical make up, also the way it looks (beautiful) and it is strong. reads that all other gels are ugly and weak. This is not true and was a very misleading statement. Yes, I agree, that there are gels at the lower end of the market that are not so nice, but that is true of anything, buy cheap & nasty, get cheap & nasty in my book. There are many nice gels on the market and requests for help in deciding how do chose between them when you are trying them out for the first time should not always have to boil down to a speech on Brisa.
Several times in the thread you refer to your vast experience with many different gels (which we do not dispute) but you never give any generic comments on choosing between them you just go straight into a sales pitch on Brisa, and not until much later in the thread did you mention any other brand than Brisa.
With all you experience why can you not explain to people when these questions come up how gels differ in type, consistency, methods of use and explain the things they need to consider and ask at shows to help them make a decision?
Heather:
I cannot comment on many gels as I have only worked with BioSculpture. I wore Bio as a client for 5 years & fell in love with it then so when I became a nail technician it was naturally one of the top contenders on my list of gel options. Its a lovely gel to work with although some do not like its runny consistency but getting to grips with that is very quickly mastered. One of the biggest things I loved about it was that it involves no buffing of the nail plate before application and if needing removing for any reason it can be soaked off. It looks lovely & I have never experienced yellowing of the product. I sculpt with it & the sculpting gel looks so natural that after I recently had to sculpt a couple of nails for a friend as she had broken them (still not got the hang of the filing cabinet WITH longer nails yet :lol: ) she looked down at her hands with just the clear overlay on and was amazed that she could not tell which 2 were the sculpts. It is quite an expensive gel, comparable in price only to Calgel but I feel it is well worth its cost. If you are going to the show at Excel or G-Mex there will be a whole bunch of people on the Bio stand demonstrating the gel and they are always very helpful if you have questions. Why not go to one of the shows with natural nails & get a trial nail done at each of the gel demos going on? It will certainly give you a good comparison & 1-2-1 time with a technician skilled in each gel so you can ask lots of questions.
Well that was a long post from me & now I will either got shot down in flames (again) or this thread will die as after the earlier days when I managed to get flamed in a couple of threads I seem to have got cut out of the loop by it & most threads I post on dont go very far after I have spoken, hense I dont comment on much any more :lol:. But now I am broaching onto another subject & should really visit the other hot topic thread of the moment & get myself potentially flamed in there as well.
I would like to ask one simple question. Why can everyone else talk and rave about the products they use and they are NOT biased, but I can not talk or rave about the products I use because I AM biased?
Now I am not going to shoot you down or flame you or any of the other choice phrases that you like to use for any comments I may make, but not others.
I cannot in every post explain my background and experience in order to give credibility to my remarks. I have filled in my profile and people can lookif they want to see my credentials.
I have posted turorials and articles that explain in
minute detail why and how Brisa Gels differ from others and why they are in many ways superior technology. There muist be over 50-60 questions about Brisa Gels answered in those tutorials that are there for everyone to read if they are sufficiently interested. It would be quite boring for every post I make to justify every remark by giving out all the same old information.
Just because I think that Brisa is incredibly beautiful and strong etc etc does not mean that I am saying that all other gels are weak and ugly ... I am sorry but that is the way YOU choose to read it and you do not speak for all of the members on this site.
You could have pm'd me with this diatribe as the Geek has asked (only yesterday) or you can make another thread turn ugly on the site by trying to make me look like the bad guy ...
If my remarks are such a problem to everyone then perhaps you can all pm the geek and ask for me to be banned from posting. If this is what the majority want, then I will stop putting the hours in that I do to hopefully help and encourage and instruct the many who ask for help (and I have had hundreds of pm's thanking me just for doing this). But I do not think that I am doing anything any differently to anyone else by mentioning and praising the products I use. If you don't like me doing this ... if somehow it offends you, then don't bother to read my posts at all. Just like the nasty films on TV ... you don't have to watch them.
Pm me if you want to have a go ... that would really be more polite and more constructive all around.
Ok, well I must admit had always felt I was the only one not using Brisa or CNd trained but feel ok now having been following the thread. Well I use IBD mainly and I love it, my clients are converting like crazy people. I have had very little to no problem with soaking off (I use individual soakers). Very little if any lifting too ( some tips are better than others tho). But do agree get along to excel or similar and try the products. I intend to try more when I get there on 6th. Have a bash and see what you think, You will pay the outlay for the ones you think your customers will love and benefit from and provide a good service with.
