Has anybody trained with at the ellisons accademy

[sharron]

Hi Alll, just a quick question, Im soon to finish my night course in VTCT Manicure/Pedicure, we were told that there would be follow up courses availible but with only 4 weeks left we,ve not heard anything yet, I know ellisons accademy do courses as I would like to go on and do nail extension and I have relatives in Birmingham that I could stay with if I decided on doing a course with them, My question is ....Has anybody done any courses with ellisons accademy and were they worth the money....Also does anybody recomend what nail extension course would be good to start with..I dont want to go and choose the wrong or even the hardest course first.....Id like to start at the basic then go on to more skilled...thanks for reading all your advice atips would be great.....

Thanks Shazz:biggrin:

 

[angel fingers]

i did my waxing training there, and i found the standard of teaching to be very high.all equipment was excellent and there was no 'just have to make do'
the class room was light and spacious and imaculately clean.

they run creative courses and star nails course there. i cant recomend those coz i havent been on them, but if my experience is anything to go by, youre on to a winner.

 

[glittergirl]

Hi ya!

When i first started training i called companies like Ellisons and Aston & Fincher and i know that Ellisons courses are all systems taught in 4 days
(how anyone can learn all systems in 4 days is a mystery to me)
and you don't get a kit included in your course so aswell as paying for your training (or lack of it) you also have to fork out patment for your kit as well i was interested in learning Gel at the time and i think it all worked out at about £500.00 which isn't cheap.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do your reasearch on training because so many companies will take you (and your money) for a mug and beleive me i know i've been taken for one in the past.

HTH

 

[sharron]

Thanks Jodie, I will look around, can anybody recomend which system would be the best to start off with, as for price im lucky ive just started working in a foot clinic where I can do manicure/pedicures and the owner has offered to pay some of the cost of my courses...

Hi ya!

When i first started training i called companies like Ellisons and Aston & Fincher and i know that Ellisons courses are all systems taught in 4 days
(how anyone can learn all systems in 4 days is a mystery to me)
and you don't get a kit included in your course so aswell as paying for your training (or lack of it) you also have to fork out patment for your kit as well i was interested in learning Gel at the time and i think it all worked out at about £500.00 which isn't cheap.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do your reasearch on training because so many companies will take you (and your money) for a mug and beleive me i know i've been taken for one in the past.

HTH

 

[angel fingers]

i'd start with liquid and powder as that tends to be the one in most demand.

 

[Glorsclaws]

I did my Foundation with Creative (Jane Cook) at Ellisons in Birmingham, I dont know if theyre still held there.
Theres also Marco Benito (Creative again) just outside the train station in Birmingham city centre.
Both excellent trainers.
To be honest, I think if youre new to enhancements, no one system will seem easier than the other, theyll all seem tricky at first.
Some people are misinformed and reckon that gel is easier than l&p... its only easier if you 'paint' it on... if you want to learn properly...personally, I dont think its any easier than l&p.
Hth a little x.

 

[sharron]

Thankyou guy's for all your advice, we.re waiting for the new ellisons catalogue to arrive at work , so hopefully will try to get a course sorted very soon, I quite like the idea of L&P, as I watched a video demonstrating it and was really taken...oooh I cant wait now lol...

 

[glittergirl]

I think L&P is the most in demand so i would start with that and move on from there.

 

[absolutly fab!]

good luck in your search

 

[emmad]

Hi,
Never taken a course at Ellisons but I did a waxing course last week at Capital and the trainer told me that she loved working there and that their training room is great. I was considering taking a phd waxing course there later this year.
IHO I dont think there is anything wrong with 4 day nail courses. I did a total of 6 days (including 2 workshops) last year, I decided from that which systems I wanted to specialise in and took a year to complete the remaining 2 workshops, a conversion course and practiced loads. I then got my NVQ 2 & 3 based on this. The quality of the training is vital though and some places are much better at it than others.
Its the same as everything else, practice, practice, practice is what enables you to learn a system not the length of the course. Once youve been shown the basics, you really need a period of time to go away and find your feet before returning to perfect your skills. Although I would draw the line at a 1 day course covering all systems which I think is not enough time.

I decided to concentrate on gel as the NSS's in my area have really put people off l & p. No one ever asks me for it so I've taken it off my price list and really concentrated on getting my gel application right.

Let us know how you get on.

 

[sharron]

Thanks again for all your kind advice, Ive just been thinking and it turns out that the college course im doing at the moment (evening course) is for 15 weeks but each lesson is only about 3hours a lesson , even less than that with setting up and breaks ....and the tutor hasnt really gone over half of the things we should have, Ive got my exam in 2 weeks and dreading it...Ive always had an interest in nails, but was hopless at filing so thought id join a course to try a learn how to do it properly and hopefully try and change my career, at the start of the course she showed us the basic technic of oval nails and said she'd show us other shapes a bit later on....10 weeks down the line we.ve still not been shown...I can sort of do it but like any filing surely theres a good technic, But I suppose im lucky as the job ive just started is with a lady who is a chiropodist, but also a nail tech and is qualified to tutor so if im not sure of anything she,ll show me, but thats besides the point I paid for a college course to learn how to perform proper manicures and pedicures..

The only worry for me about going on a different course is that really I dont know that much, yes I can perform a manicure / pedicure but I would hate to be sat in a class with other girls and look like ive never even been on a manicure course...I like to do things right and there is only one other nail tech in the town and well, ive seen her work and it is awfall, the nails she does are really thick and look false , I always thought they should look like natural nails...so my aim is to be good at what I do..
sorry to ramble on once i get going theres no stopping me....
Sharron

 

[dawn74pink]

I did a body brushing course at Ellisons in Conventry the head office, and found the course was very good, I have taught it to my own people since. They gave me a kit with the price i paid for the training. The room was well planned and the staff were nice, all refreshments all day was provided.


Dawn

 

[sharron]

I cant wait for the new catalogue to come now, with all the good reveiws ,
Ive had the ok from hubby as he doesnt mind me being away for a few days, all ive got to do now is get the right course sorted...:biggrin: :biggrin:

 

[River]

Hi Sharron,

I'm doing the VTCT Manicure & Pedicure course as well, and I'm NOT impressed as you can see from the attached link....

http://www.thenailgeek.com/showthread.php?t=14532&highlight=VTCT

Our tutor is also wasting a lot of time and a lot of the information she dishes out to the class is incorrect and everyone just believes her. Thanks to this site and all the wonderful qualified, experienced nail techs on here, I know that half the time she is talking through her bum !

If you want my honest opinion, I would not bother doing the VTCT Advanced Nail Techniques course as I really feel that you will not get the quality training that you need.

I will be doing the Creative Foundation Course myself later in the year, as I honestly feel that their products, training and ongoing support is the best ! But, as previously mentioned, do your own research and make up your mind what's best for you.

If you do decided to train with Ellisons, Creative or Star Nails (?) will be running the course (so their tutors, products etc) using the premises of Ellisons only. So it will not actually be Ellisons who are training you. Ellisons do have their own courses though, like the PhD Waxing System.

I think a 4 day course is enough to learn the basics of a single system, i.e. L & P, Gel etc. Also, Creative strongly stress that their Foundation course which is now run over 5 days is just that, a Foundation and that you should continue to keep building your skills and doing the advanced courses. You never stop learning in this industry as things keep changing and you need to keep up !

If you do some basic maths, the VTCT course is run over 15 weeks at 3 hrs each week = 45hrs. Take off 1 hr for each week (breaks, setting up, theory etc) leaves you with 30 hrs in total. In those 30 hrs you will be expected to learn 3 systems if I'm not mistaken, so you only get to spend 10 hrs on each system. That to me personally is no good and if the quality of the training is the same as the Mani & Pedi course, you would be doing well to stay clear !

Sorry, a bit of a rant, but I've really not been impressed with the VTCT courses.

River

 

[sharron]

Hi River,

our course startted off ok, but as times gone on, everybody feels the same, at the start of the course we were told we,d get a checklist of what weeks we,d be doing differents things, it turns out our lesson starts at 5pm and at 5.15pm the tutor strolls in with a few hand outs that she's just photo coppied she does her lesson plan at 5pm...from inside information lol...I have found out that she has been worded as we,ve all paid good money for a course that our times runnung out..
She showed us paraffin wax, salt scrub and hot oil treatments the other night, only to be told a 2 weekw later that she shouldnt have showed us.....so it just goes to show she doesnt really know what she's doing.
Id like to get into uising creative spa as ive heard so many good things here about it..so im going to look into some courses, but whatever I choose im sure they,ll be much better than the one im doing now,
Another thing we were supposed to have a sort of mack exam but with half term it doesnt look like it, if any of us girls fail , I know it wont go down smoothly !!

 

[River]

I tell you, the more I hear about what goes on in these Colleges, the more worried I get.

We've done the paraffin wax, haven't done a hot oil yet, but will be doing it "later on". As far as I know, this is part of the curriculum for this course, so I find it quite surprising that you were told that you shouldn't have been shown how to do this. It just seems like there is no structure to the course and that no two students doing the same course at different Colleges are actually doing the same thing !!

We were also given a "lesson plan" which covers the whole of the course, but like you, our tutor hardly follows it. She also takes up about an hour of the time on theory (no problem with that), but then spends the rest of the time faffing around and we only get to spend 1 hour doing practical. Now as you know, doing the full routine takes between 45 min - 1 hour, which means only one of us actually gets to practise !
I would strongly recommend you doing the Creative Spa day. You cover both the manicure & pedicure, plus you get all the products ! It would but rude not to

River