HELP!Mix too wet

[rachy86]

Hi all! I have been practising with salon system acrylic and have tried EVERYTHING I can think off and it still seems far too wet.I have read the tutorials lots and have hit a brick wall.Any ideas greatly appreciated!
Rachel xx

 

[geeg]

Hi all! I have been practising with salon system acrylic and have tried EVERYTHING I can think off and it still seems far too wet.I have read the tutorials lots and have hit a brick wall.Any ideas greatly appreciated!
Rachel xx

What do you mean exactly .. you have tried everything?? Less liquid in your brush means a drier mix; it really is as simple as that. Use less liquid or maybe a smaller brush?

I'm confused by your profile information. You say you are trained in acrylic nails ... but you don't list yourself as a nail geeK? So now I'm not sure if have or haven¡t had training .. you say you are doing hair ... so a tad confused here.

 

[rachy86]

What do you mean exactly .. you have tried everything?? Less liquid in your brush means a drier mix; it really is as simple as that. Use less liquid or maybe a smaller brush?

By everything I mean everything that I can think of,removing more monomer off my brush,picking up more powder,but it just seems to be wet,when i brush over it to blend in the zones it literally wipes it all off its so wet

 

[geeg]

By everything I mean everything that I can think of,removing more monomer off my brush,picking up more powder,but it just seems to be wet,when i brush over it to blend in the zones it literally wipes it all off its so wet

Are you sure you are not just being a bit heavy handed with the brush? Really only a light touch is generally needed.

Something has to change, either less liquid and longer in the powder or both to create a drier mix. Have you actually trained and qualified in acrylic nails and who with?

 

[rachy86]

What do you mean exactly .. you have tried everything?? Less liquid in your brush means a drier mix; it really is as simple as that. Use less liquid or maybe a smaller brush?

I'm confused by your profile information. You say you are trained in acrylic nails ... but you don't list yourself as a nail geeK? So now I'm not sure if have or haven¡t had training .. you say you are doing hair ... so a tad confused here.

Trained in nails,had a break to concentrate on my hairdressing which I am training in(due to complete in a few months yay!) Now that I am near the end of my hairdressing I want to take up nails again

 

[rachy86]

Are you sure you are not just being a bit heavy handed with the brush? Really only a light touch is generally needed.

Something has to change, either less liquid and longer in the powder or both to create a drier mix. Have you actually trained and qualified in acrylic nails and who with?

Trained with my college nvq2 nails

 

[geeg]

Trained with my college nvq2 nails

I was only interested because you profile doesn't say (I think you should up date it) :hug:

Maybe you need a higher end product to work with. I don't know what hairdressing products you are learning with, but I bet they are not low end from the wholesaler.

I don't like to 'blame the tools' if you know what I mean, but sometimes genuinely, inferior products can hold ones development back. I have done an article on Getting the right Mix in the articles section . why not have a read of that and then see if it helps you. then a bit more training and refreshing might not go amiss! :hug:

 

[wendy malley]

i'm afraid its true using salon system will make things much more difficult ,their brushes dont pick up the acrylic well either,i used them when i was at college coz i didn't know any better. dont know if cnd do a training pack if not there are other good nail companies who do and you will be amazed at the difference, give it a go and good luck

 

[sachi]

i'm afraid its true using salon system will make things much more difficult ,their brushes dont pick up the acrylic well either,i used them when i was at college coz i didn't know any better. dont know if cnd do a training pack if not there are other good nail companies who do and you will be amazed at the difference, give it a go and good luck

Yes CND does great Training. Ask geeg how to find a class in your area

 

[rachy86]

Hi all! I have been practising with salon system acrylic and have tried EVERYTHING I can think off and it still seems far too wet.I have read the tutorials lots and have hit a brick wall.Any ideas greatly appreciated!
Rachel xx

Ok I have ditched practising with salon sytems and tonight received my NSI sample pack,I have had a little play and STILL it seems to wet I am going by the book doing the 2:2 ratio and playing around a bit changing a bit of this and that and no such luck. Now I know were not supposed to blame our tools but could it be that my brush just picks up to much liquid?P.s its not an overly expensive one,I got it in the salon system kit I bought.
Thank you in advance...A very fed up Rachel xx

 

[Lellipop]

Ok I have ditched practising with salon sytems and tonight received my NSI sample pack,I have had a little play and STILL it seems to wet I am going by the book doing the 2:2 ratio and playing around a bit changing a bit of this and that and no such luck. Now I know were not supposed to blame our tools but could it be that my brush just picks up to much liquid?P.s its not an overly expensive one,I got it in the salon system kit I bought.
Thank you in advance...A very fed up Rachel xx

If you want to get this right, Ditch the brush you have and invest in a decent one then if you are still having problems perhaps you need to invest in some more training.

 

[J555_SXY]

hi i use salon system acrylic are you making sure that you are getting rid of the excess liquid in your brush try dabbing the brush on tisue before into the powder hope that helps give it a try x

 

[shelleymclapo]

Ok I have ditched practising with salon sytems and tonight received my NSI sample pack,I have had a little play and STILL it seems to wet I am going by the book doing the 2:2 ratio and playing around a bit changing a bit of this and that and no such luck. Now I know were not supposed to blame our tools but could it be that my brush just picks up to much liquid?P.s its not an overly expensive one,I got it in the salon system kit I bought.
Thank you in advance...A very fed up Rachel xx

Hey Rachel,
Im training in the level 2 COllege nail course too xxx We use all NSI products, I found getting the right mix a pain at first.....The NSI size 8 brush is fab its £20-£25 but well worth it xxx
Also, our tutor gave us a laminated card with different size circles on it, so that we could practice our mix-ratio and bead size, sounds simple, but its a really useful tool xxx If you cant access a laminator, put it in a plastic wallet, thats what some of the girls in my class did and it works just as well xxx
Our tutor just told us to practice practice practice lol x I got through nearly a whole 7g tub of powder on that card doing it over and over again to get it right lol x And im still not there lol xxx

Hope this helps xxx Best of luck xxx

Shell x

 

[geeg]

hi i use salon system acrylic are you making sure that you are getting rid of the excess liquid in your brush try dabbing the brush on tisue before into the powder hope that helps give it a try x

You know, I read posts like this and I CRINGE.

Dabbing liquid out of your brush on paper is not only stupidly wasteful of an expensive product but it also presents an over exposure risk to you and creates tremendous amounts of vapour and therefore smell. Any college tutor teaching you this way of working is just plain ignorant.

If you need to lessen the amount of liquid in your brush then you do it by squeezing the liquid out of your brush against the side of your dappen dish .. therefore not wasting your expensive product, causing no potential hazard and much less vapour and odour.

If you need to wipe your brush at all, then dry tissue is not the thing to use (it just spreads the vapour even more). Use a lint free pad that is just slightly damp with sanitiser and you will find that it traps the vapour in the pad and reduces the smell by a large percentage.

 

[J555_SXY]

You know, I read posts like this and I CRINGE.

Dabbing liquid out of your brush on paper is not only stupidly wasteful of an expensive product but it also presents an over exposure risk to you and creates tremendous amounts of vapour and therefore smell. Any college tutor teaching you this way of working is just plain ignorant.

If you need to lessen the amount of liquid in your brush then you do it by squeezing the liquid out of your brush against the side of your dappen dish .. therefore not wasting your expensive product, causing no potential hazard and much less vapour and odour.

If you need to wipe your brush at all, then dry tissue is not the thing to use (it just spreads the vapour even more). Use a lint free pad that is just slightly damp with sanitiser and you will find that it traps the vapour in the pad and reduces the smell by a large percentage.

i do brush mine against the side of the dappen dish i was just suggesting to dab the brush after on a tisue (lint free wipe) only because she is having trouble with her acrylic being to wet and you should obviously put the tisue straight into a bin with a lid on so that it traps vapours

 

[geeg]

i do brush mine against the side of the dappen dish i was just suggesting to dab the brush after on a tisue (lint free wipe) only because she is having trouble with her acrylic being to wet and you should obviously put the tisue straight into a bin with a lid on so that it traps vapours

It is just silly to think that she would wipe on a tissue and then throw it away between every bead! And wasteful and expensive and inefficient.

All anyone needs to do is to wipe against the side of the dappen dish MORE times than she is doing to get rid of more liquid. If she wiping twice and there is still too much liquid in the brush then she should wipe 4 times, if wiping 4 times and there is still too much liquid in the brush then she should wipe 6 times etc until she gets the right mix.

This site is for teaching people how to work safe and efficiently and if what you are telling someone to do is neither then it is better not to suggest it. There are many good teachers here on the site to respond to questions from those who need help with the right answers.

 

[sachi]

It is just silly to think that she would wipe on a tissue and then throw it away between every bead! And wasteful and expensive and inefficient.

All anyone needs to do is to wipe against the side of the dappen dish MORE times than she is doing to get rid of more liquid. If she wiping twice and there is still too much liquid in the brush then she should wipe 4 times, if wiping 4 times and there is still too much liquid in the brush then she should wipe 6 times etc until she gets the right mix.

This site is for teaching people how to work safe and efficiently and if what you are telling someone to do is neither then it is better not to suggest it. There are many good teachers here on the site to respond to questions from those who need help with the right answers.

At $50 bucks a bottle I don't waste a BIT!!!! I even save the stuff I have left over from doing someones hands in another MARKED bottle for making Nails on a stick... yes I am that cheap.... Waste not want not!

 

[NoLimitNails]

Now that's an idea, I always make display nails, and always cringe when I have to use new rentention, I don't pollute my monomer much anymore so this is a perfect idea!!!:hug:

At $50 bucks a bottle I don't waste a BIT!!!! I even save the stuff I have left over from doing someones hands in another MARKED bottle for making Nails on a stick... yes I am that cheap.... Waste not want not!

 

[sachi]

Now that's an idea, I always make display nails, and always cringe when I have to use new rentention, I don't pollute my monomer much anymore so this is a perfect idea!!!:hug:

I even save the powder, and I have a spare brush I use just for that. :hug: