Nails just pinging off? HELP!

[hello_kitty]

hi

a lady has been coming to the salon i work infor about a months now she has had me and another girl do her nails there every time after 3 or 4 days she comes in they are all off! we have just changed products but everyone loves it and thinks amazing! she was sure it was the products! she has the smallest nail plate ever which we though it could ahve been this! but when i was redoing them on friday she told me she was on atleast 12 differnt medication for all differnt things and takes up 2 7 differnt pain killer a day! could this be why they come so badly and qickly? we are puzzled in the salon. had words with trainers and other nail techs but they dont have a clue! it is the first time it has happened to any of us in the salon! can anyone help!

 

[lelaah]

our trainer was explaining alot of different drugs and illness can cause nails to fall off within days. so i would say yes it was her meds.

 

[geeg]

Many products' adhesion is affected by illness not necessarily the meds but they can also contribute too of course.

Thankfully if you use CND Retention+ it is only rarely affected by anything and that is because of the BOND that is created between the product and the nail plate (the reason it is called Retention + funnily enough :lol is so strong.

Retention+ covalently bonds to the keratin of the nail plate while other products bond with the less strong Hydrogen bond, which is more susceptable to changes on the nail plate surface disrupting the adhesion of the product.

Little science lesson for ya!!

 

[hello_kitty]

Hi ya! thanks! sadly cnd does the same to her nails dont know what it is with them they just all pining off! thank you! xoxox

 

[Bev Rose]

I would suspect it's her meds too.

I have a long term client that has never had any problems with her enhancements. She recently fell off her bike & hurt her back, quite badly & was put on strong painkillers. Her nails came off over a period of a few days - I use CND Retention+.
I did a new set for her, the same thing happened.
She is now off her meds, a new set applied & her nails are back to normal - no problems at all.

 

[ris]

I had a similar problem with my index finger once.
You can say that the enhancement just pinged off. Actually I took off because I saw it separating from the nail-plate when I was washing something: I saw how water was coming under the artificial nail.

Didn’t happen to any other nail – just the index on the left hand.
Honestly, I still haven’t figured out the reason.. As you understand the prep and the product and the application methods were the same for all my nails. :| And it’s the same body – so any changes in my organism would affect other nails as well.

The only possible cause that I could think off was maybe that the index and its nail-plate are slightly differently built – I still struggle with it sometimes because it’s somehow flatter on the top... Maybe the enhancement was not quite correctly sculpted and that made it ‘weaker’ in some way, more prone to lift?
:?:
Don’t know. What would you think?

 

[geeg]

I had a similar problem with my index finger once.
You can say that the enhancement just pinged off. Actually I took off because I saw it separating from the nail-plate when I was washing something: I saw how water was coming under the artificial nail.

Didn’t happen to any other nail – just the index on the left hand.
Honestly, I still haven’t figured out the reason.. As you understand the prep and the product and the application methods were the same for all my nails. :| And it’s the same body – so any changes in my organism would affect other nails as well.

The only possible cause that I could think off was maybe that the index and its nail-plate are slightly differently built – I still struggle with it sometimes because it’s somehow flatter on the top... Maybe the enhancement was not quite correctly sculpted and that made it ‘weaker’ in some way, more prone to lift?
:?:
Don’t know. What would you think?

Actually I think that weird shaped nails do play a part in enhancements lifting and here is my reasoning.

When we create a nail enhancement we structure it for balance and beauty ... the key word being balance. We build it in proportion and we structure it with a strong arch for strength ... its physics really I suppose ... and we build it to last, usually on a foundation that is also structured for balance and to take the stresses and strains (our natural nails).

My reasoning is that if the foundation of the natural nail is unbalanced ... meaning, lumpy or bumpy, flat when it should be arched, damaged so that it has thinner and thicker areas .. ie a nail biter etc, then this 'rocky foundation' can put different strains and pressures on different areas and this unbalance can 'fight' with the bond of the enhancement and with pressure cause different areas to lift; if it goes unnoticed for any length of time, then the enhancement slowly de-bonds over time and by the time we notice it, it's ready to come off.

I have a damaged thumbnail (caught it in a machine when I was a child and nearly lost my thumb) which is very thick and lumpy on one side and very thin on the other ... the enhancement on that nail needs replacing much more frequently as the thin side lifts after 2 weeks or it cracks there ... it has done for 20 years of wearing enhancements (I just live with it but have lived with it long enough to know that it is the shape and unevenness of this nail that puts the pressure on the bond and causes that nail to lift or crack). I have also seen it in many clients who have had injury or just plain 'oddly' shaped nails.

hth