New & really don't want to give up.

[xnikolax]

Hi I'm new to this site, and desperate for some advice, i searched to try and find the answer but i just feel it would be better to explain my problem..

Well I went back to collage last Sept to do L&P course and Qualified in January. For now i have only been doing friends and family some have stayed on well, how i would expect from a salon, other break off & have no nails left by just under 2weeks!(this i think is how they look after them) but still makes me think its my fault also, and it really frustrates me as they are paying me and i know i wouldn't come back to me!
My own nails are greate and last months! another problem is lifting most lift allot, an read though some posts i may have come to the conclusion that its the cuticle remover i use NSI and use vanish is this too greasy?
i have two friends whos nails are always fab!
all advice will be beautiful thanks x

 

[shedunlop]

Why not try doing a dry prep. Don't use any cuticle remover, just use your tool to gently scrape the cuticle from the surface of the nail, I then gently run a 180 board over the nail to remove shine and any existing bits, then I brush away dust and debris and then use the dehydrator and primer if your product requires it. I have no lifting at all. I personally have tried the cuticle removers from a few companies but they just don't suit me. Maybe I don't remove them well enough. The dry prep works for me so why not see if it will work for you?

 

[*sarah*]

have a wee look through the tutorials on here hun or maybe go and do a one-to-one training with the company who's product you use?
With the cuticle remover, I get clients to wash their hands thourghly after cuticle work, maybe try this?
hth xx

 

[Karen Minx]

I always do a dry prep now days aswell, then i use a padded 240 grit to remove the shine. Unless the cuticles are really bad, i only use my Cuticle Away for manicure clients.

 

[jess-ik-aa]

hey lovely dont give up .

if your having trouble getting product to stay its most likley due to the fact that the nail plate isnt being prepared and dehydrated very well , make sure all cuiticles are off and the shine is taken of the natural nail and the cleansed. i had this problem at the very start of my training so i know what you mean its very frustraighting!.
also the product may be getting onto the sidewalls which also causes majour lifting. just control of product and watching where it go's. could also be dust in the product aswell make sure u dust everything clean before starting applying any product.. hope this helped.
jess

 

[Hylidae]

Chin up hun,
I'm certain we've all been there in the beginning. Best advice would be to try everything til you find what works for you and the client. So much depends on so many factors, I have no need for dehydrator because the climate here is very dry. I have to use completely different products on one client depending on the season, and i had one client whose nails were so oily that I could not find a product or procedure that would allow her to wear extensions, even after 7 months of trying. I hope you work it out soon, for your sanity :wink2:

 

[geeg]

It really doesn't matter if you PREP wet or dry as long as the surface you are applying to is cleansed and DRY before you apply your product.

I would not recommend using 180 grit files to do prep on the nail surface ... way too harsh (even if used gently) and although sure, this will remove and rough up the nail surface and you will get no lifting ... it will also eventually thin out the nail plate of your client. Roughing the surface is the way NSS prep their clients only they use a 180 drill bit to do it .. same principal though .. rough up the nail plate and the product will stick like billy-o!! This is not how professionals who care about the health and condition of their clients' nails do PREP.

Product will stick like billy-o if you are thorough and careful too. Professionals who care about the long term health of their clients nails do a gentle prep (Wet or Dry). Takes a little longer but worth it in the end and clients appreciate the care.

 

[xnikolax]

Thanks for the quick replys and advice,I will try them and hopfully I will improve in time! x

 

[xnikolax]

I also forgot to ask, one of my clients that falls of has ski slop nails how do i prevent this!?

 

[geeg]

I also forgot to ask, one of my clients that falls of has ski slop nails how do i prevent this!?

You can't prevent ski slope nails from being a problem ... same as nail biters ... you need to be pretty expert to do these types of nails well and to make them last so I would advise you stay away from them at this early stage ... these people just take your confidence away.. learn how to do nice nails first on decent nails and then tackle the horrible shapes when you have more of an 'eye' for what to do.

 

[xnikolax]

ok cool. Sorry that come out wrong lol i meant how do i prevent them coming of ski slopes not prevent her having them! haha.

 

[geeg]

ok cool. Sorry that come out wrong lol i meant how do i prevent them coming of ski slops not prevent her having them! haha.

I know what you meant. As I say keep away from miss-shapes is my advice.

If you must do them, then shorten or remove every bit of free edge .. then apply a tip or sculpt the nail. You have to re-new sets on ski jump nails every couple of months as the nails grow. Growth pushes the product off plus pocket lifting is also a problem and green nails. You don't need the hassle at this point of your learning curve.

 

[xnikolax]

okay lovely thank you for your help

 

[jess-ik-aa]

okay lovely thank you for your help

keep the nails short as you can and buffing also helps for your ski slope nails xx