Orly, do I change?

[realisticbeauty]

Hi i am new to salon geek and was looking for some advice. I opened my own beauty room 6 months ago and the one thing i found hard was choosing a nail polish brand that had a good variety of colours good consistancy and was mid range price. In the end i chose to go with orly i am happy with the selection of colours available but have noticed that the consistancy of the polishes have gone really thick and gloppy. Does anyone else find this with the orly polishes. I use all the orly range f products and use the clean prep on the nails before using the polish so no oil is sticking to the brush and going into the bottle. I am considering changing to creative nail design polishes does anyone know if they will be available at the beauty show?

 

[essentia]

Hi All polishes will go thick over time. Orly is a good make - how do you store them - I have a cool store cupboard for products that need it but my own nail polish (Spa Ritual) seems to be OK on display in my room.

Also buy some thinners from Orly and make sure there is no old polish around the neck of the bottle and is airtight. I also rub my polish between my hands occasionally when not used to keep them from separating too much. It is up to you whether you go for another brand but I would not throw my investment away just yet.:hug:

 

[RedAdmiral]

Good advice!
I love Orly as its what I used in the beginning and didnt really have any problems with it, over the years I changed to Creative as over here we dont get the new colours and I wanted to stay on trend. I still stock Orly in my salon (mini's and manicure items) and it goes very well next to my CND stock so maybe if your wanting to change start slowly.

 

[realisticbeauty]

will try the thinners see how that goes as dont really want to be changing products this soon if i can help it thank you for your help

 

[geeg]

It is a bit misleading to say ALL polishes go thick over time .... How much time is the question???

CND polishes do not go thick in the bottle for years. Some brands of polish go thick in a matter of weeks or months. One thing is for certain, once you start using thinners you start to ruin the polish. It is never the same again.

CND do not even sell thinners because their polishes do not need them; You will have used them up before they go thick as they last for years.

For all polishes:

Keep lids on tight
Keep out of the heat and sun
Do not have bottles open for excessive amounts of time
Store in a moderate temperature

 

[DnD]

hiya hun
i use peggy sage creative and china glaze what i have noticed is creative after some tie DOES go thick in some of their colours :cry: i have put very very small qty of thinner in there just that i can use there polishes peggy sage after a while also goes a little thick in some of there colours also, what i have noticed is the companies i use there whites and naturals tend to go a little more thick china glaze so far nothing but time can only show n tell just use a few drops of thinner try 1 polishe to see

 

[1999judy]

It's a good idea to have many different brands of enamel but make sure they are kept in the correct conditions as this may cause problems. Never had a problem with Orly though I must admit. Look after your products and they will last forever. x

 

[RedAdmiral]

I have a HUGE selection of CND enamels and Orly polishes and I dont have a problem........... I store them all out of the sunlight and know this helps as my tops & bases that are on the desks have gone a little thicker. I now keep them behind the nail art display when the sun is out. I have had my testers since I opened last April, some from previous salons 3 yrs ago and I really do not have the problems some of you talk about!

 

[geeg]

The thing you have to understand about the chemistry of polish is that different colours do have different characteristics and formulations.

Some are heavily pigmented ... some are translucent .. some (like white) has titanium in it which does cause all whites to thicken more quickly than other colours such as a translucent.

With CND you do not need to use thinners . It will ruin the polish.

Here is how you resuscitate a white CND polish.
Either get a 2nd bottle and add a few drops of the new to the old to loosen OR add a few drops of Stickey base coat to the white or the colour.

Both these methods work and no need to buy another product (thinners) to do the job.

 

[realisticbeauty]

i must admit it is mainly the white that i am having trouble with. my newest one i have only had 2 months and has already gone thick! yet naughty which is the most popular in my salon is still a good consistancy it is stored in the same way. may try the cnd white rather than change my whole polish range

 

[geeg]

i must admit it is mainly the white that i am having trouble with. my newest one i have only had 2 months and has already gone thick! yet naughty which is the most popular in my salon is still a good consistancy it is stored in the same way. may try the cnd white rather than change my whole polish range

As I explained, ALL white polishes go thick because of the titanium in them which is what makes them white! Titanium is like chalk in the polish .. it provides the pigment. All white polishes are made with it.

It is precisely because you use it so much that it goes off the quickest. You open it, the solvents evaporate, it goes thick. It is not the fault of the polish but because of its formulation.

By all means get a few different whites and try them out for longevity. CND lasts a long time because the polish is thixotropic. If these terms mean nothing to you, then KNOW YOUR PRODUCTS and how they WORK and get a copy of 'Nail Structure and Product chemistry' by Douglas Schoon. It will explain the 'whys' and the 'wherefores' in a way you will be able to understand.