TPTW - Most hated marketing term!

[MissOwen]

This is my first thread but according to the geek rules i read, everyone should try and post a thoughtful thread every week!!!!!

Anyway, i've been trying to think of something and i've decided to ask......

If you had the power to remove one term, phrase or word used in the nail industry to premote services or products (such as porcelain nails to describe l&p, which i spotted on a thread the other day), what would it be and why??

xx

 

[alpina]

Definitely the one about gel letting your nails breathe

I get so many phone calls asking if I use X brand of gels. No, I use Brisa gel. They tell me they don't want 'gel' they want this other brand because it is natural and lets your nails breathe and doesn't wreck them like 'fake nails' do.

My brisa gels aren't 'fake nails'

 

[kristine74]

Definitely the one about gel letting your nails breathe

I get so many phone calls asking if I use X brand of gels. No, I use Brisa gel. They tell me they don't want 'gel' they want this other brand because it is natural and lets your nails breathe and doesn't wreck them like 'fake nails' do.

My brisa gels aren't 'fake nails'

AMEN TO THAT!! My instructor used to say to people "oh...your nails have lungs? WOW! 'Cause mine sure don't!" I giggled every time.

I'd toss the term "fake nails" altogether...I use the word enhancements instead. Sounds prettier

 

[Cutesteph]

Do I have to choose one??:lol:

Porceline!! Here they charge $10 more for "porceline" I wonder if they actually use the exact same powders as they would for the regular acrylic

I also really hate "gels are better because they are all natural and let your nails breath"

 

[skymark]

I find the word 'bio' in the nail and beauty industries to be used in a misleading manner sometimes.

I also hate when people literally advertise 'cheap nails' as if its a good thing.

 

[Kittensgotclaws]

I've read somewhere "organic Gel nails" what the hec is that!!?? Are they going to biodegrade on the ends of my fingertips?? Oh and i hate the term "fake nails" i had a woman call me a few weeks ago asking if i "do fake nails" i told her that yes i provide nail enhancements, she asked the price, i told her and she said "thats way to expensive" and hung up! Well all i can say is good luck to her, if people want nails that cost £20 down the chop shop......you get what you pay for!:irked:

 

[Unique Nails09]

Sparitual do a range of 'Vegan' nail polishes which totally stumps me, do normal nail polishes contain meat, eggs and cheese then!!?? Bonkers x:lol:

 

[The Geek]

Ye, the use of 'organic' gets my goat. Its only organic because it contains some trace amount of carbon - hmmm just like every other nail product.

Porcelain is moronic - if the products were porcelain they would shatter if they were ever knocked. They would also need to be baked at a mega high temperature to cure.

I also roll my eyes at any of the lingo designed to prey on the ignorance of the uneducated; "Safer, healthier, natural", yadayadayada.

As bad as the nails needing to breathe: products claiming that they "Feed your nails!". So not only do I have to periodically give mouth to nail resuscitation, I have to spoon feed the damn things too?!?

 

[ellewopter]

What bugs me aside from all the ridiculous marketing along the lines of your nails needing to eat and breathe (my particular fave was the organic thing......hell im organic!!!), is some of the images that accompany said nonsense, some of the images of nails are so bad i have to think if thats the best you can produce why the hell would i buy the product ????!!!!

(cant agree with the vegan thing, i use them as im vegetarian and agree with the concept and dont want any animal derived products on me thank you very much! lol )

 

[Unique Nails09]

Well i suppose we learn something new everyday - I never knew some nail varnish products weren't suitable for vegetarians/vegans. i disagree with products being tested on animals, its horrible, but I dont understand these vegan products, do normal polishes contain animal derivatives?:cry:

 

[Doorie]

Sparitual do a range of 'Vegan' nail polishes which totally stumps me, do normal nail polishes contain meat, eggs and cheese then!!?? Bonkers x:lol:

you made me LMAO

I'd also go with the *natural* gel, acrylic (l&P) leads to cancer, etc etc etc

 

[ellewopter]

Well i suppose we learn something new everyday - I never knew some nail varnish products weren't suitable for vegetarians/vegans. i disagree with products being tested on animals, its horrible, but I dont understand these vegan products, do normal polishes contain animal derivatives?


There is a massive list of ingredients that can be animal derived, so i just prefer to stick to a brand thank i know does not contain any animal derived ingredients, a lot of ingredients may or may not be animal derived but it is usually not stated on packaging where it is derived from.

An example is acetate which can be from either animal or plant sources. As far as i know any ingredient must have been tested on animals before use on humans, even though the product it is in may not have.

 

[Kaynine]

Mine would have to be Acrylic, its very misleading to clients and techs alike. Before I started to learn about nails I thought that acrylic were only L+P and would of beveled that gel was better for your nails because of that. I would love to see salons using L+P or Gel listed as two separate things, but its so hard to do now that the word acrylic is so well known and people will always ask for them.

 

[Annie23]

Well i suppose we learn something new everyday - I never knew some nail varnish products weren't suitable for vegetarians/vegans. i disagree with products being tested on animals, its horrible, but I dont understand these vegan products, do normal polishes contain animal derivatives?:cry:

Apparently the ingredient that makes tooth paste shiny is an animal derivative. So does this mean anything that has shiny, glossy effects is animal derivative such as polish, shampoo, conditioner, face cream etc? The list could go on and drive you mad if you wanted to be a true vegetarian. Thats why I stopped being a vegetarian its impossible to know for sure. The sad fact is animal derivatives are used in many different ways in life.

anne xx

 

[ellewopter]

The only way you can be sure is to use products that are marked and approved for vegetarians

 

[Annie23]

The only way you can be sure is to use products that are marked and approved for vegetarians

I totally agree, however in my case I found out that camera film roll contained animal derivatives. As a keen photographer I just couldnt give it up. For me that was asking too much. For me it seemed hypocritical to use the products but not eat them if that makes sense.

anne xx

 

[ellewopter]

I totally agree, however in my case I found out that camera film roll contained animal derivatives. As a keen photographer I just couldnt give it up. For me that was asking too much. For me it seemed hypocritical to use the products but not eat them if that makes sense.

anne xx

Totally, it is a total nightmare at times but i cant bring myself to do it ( i wasn't criticizing tho i no how hard it is ) x

 

[Annie23]

Oh I didnt think for a minute you was criticising, I know how hard it is and anyone that fully commits to it have my admiration. It was a very hard choice for me to make, it was made worse as at the time I found out photography was one of my degree majors and I had just been accepted to do a masters in photography (although I never did it in the end, but I didnt know that at the time). I still have major issues and still have certain principles that I conform to.

anne xx

 

[persianista]

Mine are "vegetable dye" We gave that up back in the dark ages when the chemists whipped up decent hair dyes that actually worked.
"hair dye gives you cancer" 95% of women with bladder cancer dye their hair. 95% of women dye their hair full stop. There is no epidemic of bladder cancer among us hairdressers, who are up to the elbows in the stuff every day.
"you can brush on perfect highlights using a mascara wand box kit" No ya can't, you come out lookin like a tabby cat. I'm gonna charge you a small fortune to sort it.
I hear rubbish spouted by clients every day, each bit of crap adds a fiver to the bill heh heh.

 

[VHunter]

Hmm ok, if you're vegan/vegetarian and don't want anything that is derived from animals...
Then, I wonder if using a 'sable hair' brush to apply the acrylics is ok?
I'm pretty sure the animal wasn't asked if it's ok to yank hairs out of his backside.
And while some 'chemicals/ingredients' are no longer tested on animals, they were at some point.... so then are those off the list, or on the list of no-no's?
Just an honest question, not looking for an argument, just curious?
Where's the line?


As for terms that aggravate me? LMFAO oh my gosh, there are so many. But yes, "bio" and "organic" are on the top of my list because they are VERY misleading to consumers, and budding technicians alike.

Other terms that aggravate me:

• "Gel-resine" (quebec term for tip-n-dip)
• "Resine-tisser" (another quebec term which translated means "woven resin" but in fact refers to L&P)
• Porcelain (where's the burn marks?)
• Silk-powder nails
• Natural Resin (it's acrylates... what's natural about it?)
• Diamond dust (for diamond nails )
• "Poudre organic" (means Organic powder, but still just L&P)
• etc etc etc.........

I would LOOOOOOOOOOOOVVVVVVVVE to see the business bureau crack down on misleading terms in general and force companies to stick to the TRUTH!