vietnamese nail bars!!! the solution we should bring in!

[jackbrooks]

ok for the past couple of months ive been asking people there veiws on vietnamese nail bars and why they do or used to go to them!
the 2 main reasons are;
cheap prices
fast service

but saying that i had alot of negetive feedback from there loyal customers.!
they hate the fact they use drills for everything and they hurt!
the salons arnt clean.
you get what your given
and they dont care!

ok well apart from that, has anyone looked at there finished nails?

fan shape!
no apex
no upper arch
no lower arch
just a mess!!!

they look like slabs of concrete on the nail!!!

these nail bars give us nail techs bad names!

i feel the solution would to be what the americans do!
i belive every nail tech in the uk should have a licence!
this licence would mean a certain amount of hours in nail school to understand the whole nail enchancment and natural nail care! along with health and safty e.g sanitization

what do you guys think??

 

[satinbaby]

Defo if you ever saw the idea of safe salons in England that went under unfortunatly last year that was helpign cut down the good from the bad x

 

[3 WISHES]

completely agree but how are we going to do that? I am sick and tired of these people ruining good techs reputaion.......

 

[ValencianNails]

Let's not forget that there are many fantastic Vietnamese nail technicians and being a Vietnamese technician or salon does not equal "slabs of concrete" or ruined natural nails!

Do you mean NSS salons, quick in and out, reduced sanitation, conveyor belt service type salons?

 

[GemmaBear]

im not a nail tech but one of my good friends is vietnamese and owns a nail bar and her salon is far from dirty!!!!! they do use drills but i understand she only uses them if neccessary. i dont think its fair to paint them all with the same brush. and in my area there not cheap - full set for £30 and this normally takes about 30 mins.

 

[brittone05]

Our local Vietnamese nail bar charges the same Gemma - £30 for a full set and they offer the most amazing and detailed airbrush work. WE have English salons here that are dirty, use no hygeine codes and are nothing short of chop shops sadly

 

[jackbrooks]

Ok what i mean is, it doesnt matter what colour you are. Im fed up with seing this kind of work that puts negativity to use nail techs that have spent alot of time and engergy in perfecting our skills! Then these people come along and tell people there a nail professional and produce sumthing that looks nothing like a nail lol
i think we should start a petition? What do you guys think

 

[Angelaznailz]

Good idea.
But it would cost us (legit techs) to get licensed as the council would have to employ people to inspect us regularly.
I'm all for the plan, but fear that legalising businesses will drive the NSS underground (operating from backrooms etc)
I think there was talk years ago about licensing salons. Does anyone know if it got much support ???

 

[brittone05]

Unfortunately, I doubt that would do any good whatsoever. There will always be a tech that isn't as great as the next be they using a drill, a hand file or a piece of sandpaper. Licensing doesn't mean a great deal sadly as a piece of paper does not necessarily mean that the person whose name is on it will remain to the level they were for the "test". The idea in itself is wonderful ( as it was when pet shop licensing was brought in and a lot of other licensing issues on another field I take an interest in, exotic and dangerous animals and reptiles ) but carrying it through is often not plausible for those funding the license, feasable for the manpower ( or womanpower! ) it takes to uphold the standard and financially crippling should it not go as planned

 

[jackbrooks]

I think we should educate the people then. Big style. With the media???????

 

[brittone05]

Education is always the best way forward with things like this. The media is not always a tech's best friend as previous press articles have possibly shown?

The best form of education is done through your clients I beleive - educate them and they will educate those around them who, in turn, will come back to your salon for a professional service with no chopping or anything involved

 

[Yurionfire]

Let's not forget that there are many fantastic Vietnamese nail technicians and being a Vietnamese technician or salon does not equal "slabs of concrete" or ruined natural nails!

Do you mean NSS salons, quick in and out, reduced sanitation, conveyor belt service type salons?

I agree with the above idea...

How can you say like that because you shouldn't blame that every Vietnamese Nail Tech work like what you said.

Do you know 'Trang Nguyen', he's Vietnamese and he's a championship as well ONS Educators. He could probably has more talent than ordinary nail tech.

Sometime we should look back at ourselves in another point of view. Why the other nail salon does a good job or you are not making as much as you used to make.

If you are such a great nail tech so why your customer turn away?

 

[bandit]

hairdressers have had this problem for years, you need no training to open a salon and start doing hair. Same with tattoo studios. You will never eradicate this problem. The public suss it out for themselves, they will give them try, compare, then choose. You just have to offer the best, do a good service and not pull the client to pieces when they have been somewhere else that was rubbish.

 

[Seraphine]

these nail bars give us nail techs bad names!

i feel the solution would to be what the americans do!
i belive every nail tech in the uk should have a licence!
this licence would mean a certain amount of hours in nail school to understand the whole nail enchancment and natural nail care! along with health and safty e.g sanitization

what do you guys think??

If I'm not mistaken, the US has problems with NSS salons too. The licencing hasn't put a complete stop to this - people always find their way around the "rules".

The media has been resistant to help our cause - they spread more inaccuracies than anything, despite our trying to get the truth out about the work we do.

I feel that by doing my best work and educating people when they are sitting across from me is the best way I have to combat against shoddy work by cheaper competitors. My clients knows what a nice set of nails looks like, and they leave my sessions without being cut to ribbons and spending an hour in pain and discomfort. They are welcome to try NSS, but they come back to me.

 

[deanosnana]

i feel the solution would to be what the americans do! i belive every nail tech in the uk should have a licence!
this licence would mean a certain amount of hours in nail school to understand the whole nail enchancment and natural nail care! along with health and safty e.g sanitization

what do you guys think??

I wish it were that easy, I really do. We do have licensing regulations in the US and it has NOT discouraged the NSS from opening up salons. Those who do not do the right thing won't do it no matter if you have licensing regulations or not.

Unfortunately, there is no easy solution to the problem.

My advice is; those of us who are NOT NSS, just keep doing the good job we do and educate our clients of the differences between us and NSS! Word of mouth is a powerful thing.

 

[MissOwen]

Good and bad exist in every business. Hairdressers who give you a wonky cut, builders who put up a building that leaks, solicitors that take long lunches with pretty secretaries rather than work on your case..... i could go on but you get the drift :lol:

Like alot of the other replies, I think the best thing to do is be the best you can be and educate your clients. I doubt you'd find a great chef concerning over losing clients to mcdonalds!!

People do learn, it only takes one visit to a caring, educated, talented nail technician for them to see the difference in treatment that they receive. If they then choose the poorer service, well, do you really want a client like that?!

I have recently converted my best friend from NSS to having her nails done with me, even though i'm still a newbie. She is a hairdresser and has been passing on the info about NSS, MMA etc to everyone she knows who has their nails done at her old salon. We just have to spread the word and take care of the ones who care!!! :hug:

 

[AllThumbs]

unfortunatly like deano said, in the us we have licenses and inspections, it don't help.
The nss i work in just got fined 1500 american dollars for illegal liquid. they just paid the fine and kept on going...(thats why i'm moving to my own salon ) the inspector is racist tho so that doesn't help. WHen he came to the american shop i work in he talked cars with the boss's hubby and then wrote a 100 on our inspection and didn't even look at my pedi chair! the system is flawed no matter what you do. educate your clients is the best thing we have, but it will be a battle we'll never win.

 

[Velveteen]

Let's not forget that there are many fantastic Vietnamese nail technicians and being a Vietnamese technician or salon does not equal "slabs of concrete" or ruined natural nails!

Do you mean NSS salons, quick in and out, reduced sanitation, conveyor belt service type salons?

I second this. Singling out an ethnic group is racist, particularly when coupled with blanket (and generalised) statements and it doesn't help anybody.

Let's decide on what constitutes a Non Standard Salon first before we start putting the boot into one section of the community and then move forward. I note that Beauty Therapy has similar issues.

The question is a good one because I'm not so sure licensing is the answer either. I'm thinking more along the lines of a trade qualification. In Australia, trades are backed by the Skills Council, Apprenticeship Boards, legislation, their own trades associations and they are provided with their own trade card and number.

For example, an electrician needs to produce his/her trade card to access materials and they can't promote themselves or their business (or even open or run a business) as an electrician unless they are trade qualified.

Again, in Australia, a Certificate II or III is only recognised by a government registered training organisation and each award is provided with its individual number which is stored on a nationwide database (so an employer or whatever can check its bonafides). Perhaps this recognition could be extended and thus make nail technology a Trade?

 

[honeycure]

Requiring a license doesn't stop the NSS's here in the US.
All you have to do is pass the test and make sure your salon is "relatively" clean when the State Board examiner shows up...

A new one just opened up near my house. 15 bucks a set, hah!

 

[bitzybob]

ok for the past couple of months ive been asking people there veiws on vietnamese nail bars and why they do or used to go to them!
the 2 main reasons are;
cheap prices
fast service

but saying that i had alot of negetive feedback from there loyal customers.!
they hate the fact they use drills for everything and they hurt!
the salons arnt clean.
you get what your given
and they dont care!

ok well apart from that, has anyone looked at there finished nails?

fan shape!
no apex
no upper arch
no lower arch
just a mess!!!

they look like slabs of concrete on the nail!!!

these nail bars give us nail techs bad names!

i feel the solution would to be what the americans do!
i belive every nail tech in the uk should have a licence!
this licence would mean a certain amount of hours in nail school to understand the whole nail enchancment and natural nail care! along with health and safty e.g sanitization

what do you guys think??

hi

just thought i would give you my opinion on these nail bars,
i used to go to one frequently to have my nails done again mainly for the reasons above, that was before i qualified as a nail tech and obviously now do my own.......they dont offer enough choice IMO acrylic nails with white airbrush tips and yes very good nail art hand design but having said that i always felt as though i was on a conveyer belt one tech would shorten infill and file my nails (electric file) and another would apply polish then another would do the art, pushed from pillar to post, not a very professional approach if you ask me. one time when i was there my husband came in to meet me and they asked him to paint the final coat of top coat on for me!!! ......i told them i wanted a discount if he does as he could do that at home for me...lol although it was a laugh having him take part, it was not pro at all

sorry it was a bit long winded but i totally agree with you.