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hmmm could it be that those who were having breakage have had previous (years ago) highlights done then covered them up with a darker color, hense what is underneath, you have no clue too.
 
1.) my cousin (fine, abundant, arm length, wavy hair)
looked great for 1st 3 months, then hair started to break off- she wouldn't touch it again with a bargepole !!!! she looked after her hair perfectly after YUKO as she is very much a perfectionist (just to give an idea of how meticulous she is- she now has been havin extensions for 2-3 years and even the hairdressers cannot believe how well hers last compared to other peoples, not to mention the extensions haven't damaged her hair one bit!) she contacted YUKO headoffice who wouldn't refund but just looked at her hair and said the system wasn't applied right- even though she had it done at a registered YUKO salon.

I think this explains the reason behind your cousins disaster very well....

Having the ukon done at a registered salon does not gaurantee the correct usage of the product... just cos one has a attended a course and has a certificate to show they can use ukon.. it doesnt mean they can control the product perfectly and will produce excellent results just like that.. using the ukon takes time and experience..

I am quite sure that there are also many qualified creative nail technicians out there who produces pants nails...

i hav heard quite a few horror stories of hair breaking within months of having the YUKO system done. in my opinion from the cases i have observed, i would say that there are some people who this system can suit time and again- but those people are not very common.

I have already explained that in the far east for the last 10 years ... most salon offer the ukon as a service... it is almost as familiar as your regular 'cut and blow dry'... thousands and thousands of people have tried it... I myself know of many many people who have tried it.. I know of many stylist who is very good at using it and with experience.. can produce some brilliant results..

Does that mean that most of these oriental people are not classified as 'common' people..?

in my opinion either this system is flawed in some way, which explains the amount of bad experiences i hav encountered or this is a system that is extremely complex to master, hence making it pretty dangerous as i can see there are quite a number of horror stories right here from other geeks.

i think it is very unfair for you to judge a product in which you:

a) have not been taught and therefore can not use.
b) have not very much knowledge on the actual product or even the procedure or the way that it is meant to be used.

You are right.. this system is extremely difficult to master.. but that doesnt mean it is dangerous.... it just means that you have to be focus and be extra patient when learning it...
 
I keep coming back to this thread and i don't have time atm to reply as fully as i would like but :lol:

How many times have we heard "extensions damage your nails cos they can't breathe " Hundreds and we know what a load of old rubbish that is :rolleyes:

Well ,in the exact same way chemical services such as the one in question do not cause damage,improper application or an unskilled stylist would do that !

I have been successfully tinting my clients hair with no adverse affect for almost 7 years this is simply because i know what i am doing and do it well .

Again as with any chemical service the reason Anna's hair has suffered no adverse effect is simply that she goes to a skillful stylist who does not overlap which would cause breakage .

Hth's a bit
 
I keep coming back to this thread and i don't have time atm to reply as fully as i would like but :lol:

How many times have we heard "extensions damage your nails cos they can't breathe " Hundreds and we know what a load of old rubbish that is :rolleyes:

Well ,in the exact same way chemical services such as the one in question do not cause damage,improper application or an unskilled stylist would do that !

I have been successfully tinting my clients hair with no adverse affect for almost 7 years this is simply because i know what i am doing and do it well .

Again as with any chemical service the reason Anna's hair has suffered no adverse effect is simply that she goes to a skillful stylist who does not overlap which would cause breakage .

Hth's a bit

Hi Becky,
I do love to read your threads and you are a smily lady, but I do need to disagree with you: OFCOURSE chemical services damage your hair.
Nails are different because you are not actually put the chemical IN to your nail but on it. With hair, the chemical MUST penetrate the cuticle, otherwise there are no changes as all the chemical changes do happen in the cortex of the hair. And please do not get angry with me, because I don't mean to doubt your skills or anything, but you know that anything alkaline will cause a damage to your hair. However, everyones hair is different, and I do must say that oriental hair is the strongest hair type in my opinion. IF anyone decided to do any chemical service into their hair, then I think that it is good practise to have some treatments on the hair as aftercare to keep the hair well moisturised and in good condition. Good stylist will advise client to book in for treatment in couple of weeks after having a chemical treatment. But please Becky, keep on smiling and I hopefully speak to you again......:hug:
 
#:lol: Nora i'm not the sort to get angry because someone disagree's with me

However :D chemical services can be carried out on the hair with no detrimental effect to the condition of the hair at all (this is where my likening to nails came in) you see done once,the is no damage caused,just alteration to the structure.

One chemical service doesn't cause damage,repeated services and incorrect application do :D

After carrying out a chemical service a herbal anti oxy is used,this restores the natural ph balance of the hair as well as preventing further oxidisation.

Most of us know that soap is more alkaline than our skin,it may have a temporary drying effect if we use it but we replace lost moisture and restore our skins ph and it suffers no damage,just tempoary side effects.

If we conttinually used soap without restoring the ph and replacing lost moisture it would cause damage as would incorrect application of chemical hairdressing services :D
 
Hi Becky,
OFCOURSE chemical services damage your hair.
Nails are different because you are not actually put the chemical IN to your nail but on it. :hug:
whoa..will disagree with this hun. What you are saying is that nails are not absorbing?
what about the primers used with Acrylics and some UV gels?
Do Nails not absorb water? If they do, then they are not immune to absorbing chemicals placed on them from acrylics.:eek:
As with nails, we put chemicals ON the hair and the chemicals make it porous and it Absorbs it. We do not inject the hair with chemicals.
Nail enhancements do and will damage your nails to some extent also. You cannot apply a chemical to a nail plate and not have some type of damage. Even bleach and soap will damage them to some extent.
Conditioning with oils and nail strengtheners helps improve their condition.
 
Ok JD, please lets not start the conversation of damaging the nails again.... Maybe I was not quite too clear on what I meant... I think that the structure of hair and the nails are completely different. Now I THINK that this the way it goes; because the cell structure of nail is much more harder and tighter that hairs, then yes it does absorb, but not in the extend of the hair. Becky is right, if a chemical treatment is done once and correctly, there should not be a massive hair loss or damage on the structure of the hair or scalp, unless there has been a reaction or the scalp has burned, seen that too. However, when we are talking about straightening, this is often done repeatedly and not only once, by using very strong alkaline chemical, which do have to lift up the cuticle of the hair in order to work and give the result the client wants. But again, there are so many systems in the market and I know that this thread is only of one of them, which has given LOOOOVELY results to some and disappointments to the others. I saw a lady in the salon a week ago, whose hair was sooooooooooooooo damaged that it is beyond belief and she still wanted to have a relaxer on her hair, which was not done in that salon, because the ends were see through...... and she did not agree with the trim. I know that she will go to another salon and they will do it and then she will end up coming back when she has no hair. I do think that as a hairdresser, I need to take care of every single caution possible when carrying out a chemical service to make sure that the client leaves the salon with the smile in her face, but everyones hair is different. At the end of the day I have noticed that we always want what we don't have..... but usually that all comes with some kind of price. Now I just go and deep condition my lovely curls and I see you girls later. :green:
 
I would like to ask Flower , what is the actual main chemical make up of the yuko straightening system ?
all products by law usually have to say what is in them,

thanks in advance :hug: minky
 
I had this done a few years ago and I dream of having it done again.
My hair is naturally curly prone to the frizzies. When I had this done the results were truly amazing. My hair was poker straight and as silky as anything.
I couldn't believe I could just wash my hair and leave it to dry naturally and not have to use straighteners for a whole year!
I had it done in New York by Japanese girls who specialised in it and I wish I could go back as this weather is NOT helping my hair at the mo!
 
I would like to ask Flower , what is the actual main chemical make up of the yuko straightening system ?
all products by law usually have to say what is in them,

thanks in advance :hug: minky

minky..

I can not actually use the yuko system, I am a nail tech and not a professional hair stylist, but I have had it done many times on myself before and are very good friends with the stylists who can use correctly and skillfully. Which is also the reason why I have a fair amount of knowledge of the performance of this product and what is required to maximise the benefit of this product.

Having said that though, I do not know the actual chemical used in the yuko, but I certainly can found out for you when I get the chance if you are interested to know?
 
The other thing that I do know is the yuko system comes in different brands, the best one that the stylist i know have tried and uses is the famous top japanese brand called 'Shiseido', who also produces cosmetic and skincare.
 
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minky..

I can not actually use the yuko system, I am a nail tech and not a professional hair stylist, but I have had it done many times on myself before and are very good friends with the stylists who can use correctly and skillfully. Which is also the reason why I have a fair amount of knowledge of the performance of this product and what is required to maximise the benefit of this product.

Having said that though, I do not know the actual chemical used in the yuko, but I certainly can found out for you when I get the chance if you are interested to know?


Hi, thank you Flower I would really like that , I am always interested in different products ,
thanks once again :hug: x minky
 
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I use the wellastrate on afro Caribbean hair
and also on the regrowth which I prefer to be 6-8 inches as you have to straighten the hair in little sections with the hot irons too , but this is optional depending on how curly your clients hair is.
It takes a long time,but he results are fantastic
the condition and shine is great
my clients just love it.

Price wise is the yuko or ukon dearer than the wellastrate?
because the opinions on the internet a while ago, said wellastrate is just as good in all aspects ,:) minky

Hi
Can you get the hair 100% straight with Wellastrate?.
I am tempted to chemically straight my hair but unsure what to expect as i want it to be straight (when air dryed) and look natural and not flat.
I heard good things about Yuko but quite pricey compared to Wellastrate.
 
Can Wellastrate MILD be used (cold method, process without hot irons) without using the Wellastrate Prep Cream and Wellastrate Straight Saver when you don't have any?

(To be used on slightly wavy hair, to make it more manageable.)

What's the Wellastrate Car Booster for? Any significant results with it's use?



Thanks..
 
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Hi

I had Yuko done on my hair 7 months ago. It is fantastic. I had tried other types of straightening before this and it is not the same at all. I had hair breakage from previous thermal straightening, which is why I decided to try Yuko.

My hair was so easy to manage. I say was, because I now need to have it done again. I have a about an inch or so of re-growth. The only downside is the price, but I suppose you also have to put yourself in the position of the hair technician doing it - it isn't something that is done monthly so they have to make it worthwhile.

I say 10/10 for Yuko.
 
Can Wellastrate MILD be used (cold method, process without hot irons) without using the Wellastrate Prep Cream and Wellastrate Straight Saver when you don't have any?

(To be used on slightly wavy hair, to make it more manageable.)

What's the Wellastrate Car Booster for? Any significant results with it's use?



Thanks..


Hi, as long as you use the two main creams and the hair is natural and not coloured it should be ok ,
but it would be better with the extras :)

use the straightening cream and the nuetralizing cream as directed on the pack

just follow the pack instructions
as it has all the instructions for performing the relaxing procedure without using hot irons

Ps, dont over comb it with the straightening cream on as it can over stretch the hair

its always best to use what Wella reccomend as the prep cream
would probably even out the porosity
and the care booster
would really boost the care of the hair , by putting the moisture back in and greatly restoring the hairs PH

:hug:
 
Yes and hv the best results silky straight hair no more using iron or blow dryers.

100% highly recommended fizmakeup w38py

I travelled all the way from Hungary to straighten my hair on her saloon and found a very professional environment with lots of care and gratitude for her clients... to my utmost surprise fiz is a great host even ... she cares for her clients needs and do her best to make us look best..which is amazing because we do seldom find people like this on earth.... i do have experienced a lot of times in most of the saloons and found the weirdest behaviour by the staff so i appreciate her nature and work which is so remarkabe and up to d mark that dont have words to thanked her even..

To me money is not everything it's the humbleness and the personality one's holds..

I highly reccommend fizmakeup w38py because she not only changed my personality and make me feels good about my hair but also assured me that i can approach her anytime in future if im not satisfied with the results... truly amazing !I had Yuko done on my hair 9 months ago. It is fantastic. I had tried other types of straightening before this and it is not the same at all. I had hair breakage from previous straightenings, which is why I decided to try Yuko. price is reasonable too..

thanks
sonia
 
Yes and hv the best results silky straight hair no more using iron or blow dryers.
Yes - I've had my hair straightened with the Yuko system. It's amazing! My hair was like - thick and wavy and very frizzy when it rains or is damp outside. It took me forever to dry and straighten everyday. I am so thankful that my friend told me about Yuko. I did my research and found a brilliant woman who was trained by the founder of the system. She has been doing it for many years so I was comfortable that she knew what she was doing! It isn't cheap, but I made a great choice - my hair is so wonderfully easy to take care of now! It's so soft, straight and silky no matter what the weather is outside. Don't let the cost stop you - just do your research and find someone who is reputable and knows what they are doing.



Go for it - you won't be disappointed!
PS - If you're interested I went to fiz in w3. I wholeheartedly recommend her!

-Alison
 
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