Botox clinic in my beauty salon

[beautybyselina]

hi there i am renting 3 rooms above a hair salon doing beauty and nails, i have got a nurse coming in once a month using the beauty room as a botox clinic, the owner of the hair salon said that i have too give him a percentage of my commision that i would earn off this, as i am sub-letting it out, is this correct or am i aloud to do this as i am renting the room? please help x

 

[Exquisite Touch]

I rent above a hair salon in hindley green, wigan and I dont give them any of my money that i get from my aesthetic nurse.
I think he is being greedy with you babe

 

[Lynne Baker]

What does it say in your contract about sub-letting?

 

[Katelisa]

if you pay flat rate rent then its none of his business as he is getting no more no less no matter what you do in the room. you could sit up there twiddling your thumbs and hes still getting is rent.

however if you pay percentage rent, then i can see their point.

 

[maxine1]

I agree it should be none of anyones business.I dont see how anyone can make you do that I think that is mean spitited to expect a cut.What a nasty person.I have been having botox for years at a salon my sister works at.Its cheaper to have it done in a salon than a dr surgery.

 

[AndyP]

I agree with all other people him not able to charge you anymore if that is what is says in your contract if you have one - do you actually have one though as i woudl guess most room renters actually don't. He coudl then claim he is just renegotiating the rent and he is just being a business man if he is doing this. One key point though is are you covered under insurance or your own as he may claim he has to pay a bigger premium due to the type of treatment. he may also claim that by you doing this type of thing is preventing him doing it so it fair you give him some of your take. I woudl ensure you have a contract that is a flat rent and prevents him making any extra money from you unless he also takes a reduced rent when you are on hols or quiet.

 

[hippy-chick]

ummmmm! I'm not sure about this....I would get some advice about if sub-letting is actually legal and if your insurance covers you.

 

[beautybyselina]

hi guys thanx for your advice, i just give him rent for the rooms. i dont have a contract with him and i have my own insurance, he is saying that we will have too sort out how much i am going to pay him out of my commision from the athsetic nurse for him, i didnt think this was right however i was going to give him a referal fee for the customers he does refer to me. what do you think is a reasonble percentage to give him for the people he doe refer. i never stick up for myself but i think i need too. x

 

[Bebeautiful]

Now that you have mentioned "NO CONTRACT" this is a tricky one because of the legal side or lack of, it sounds as though you are doing really well but please try and get some advise from the CAB or your local government. Good luck

 

[Lynne Baker]

oh dear...
Twice in the last week or so there have been problems which could have been completely avoided if contracts had been in place.
I know this sounds harsh but come on, if this is your business you HAVE to have it on a proper footing, and that means contracts, NIC, Tax, insurance, etc.
For those of you who are renting rooms without a contract what are you going to do if one morning you walk in and the owner says "today's your last day, see ya!". You have no leg to stand on, no notice period, no payment in lieu of notice, nothing.
I know I'll get flamed for this, but you really CAN'T run a business like that.
I'm not being nasty about this, truly I'm not. I just worry for you ladies and chaps who leave yourselves exposed like this.

 

[beautybyselina]

no your right calla im going to ask for a contract tommorrow, would the owner of the hair salon sort out the contract or would i have a say in it too? if the contract says nothing about the botox clinic would i be entitled to every profit i make from it or would he still have to have a share? i would give him a refferal fee though for customers he reffers.

 

[Lynne Baker]

Every contract is different. You need to work out between you what's mutually acceptable and what's FAIR. There is an Act of Parliament called The Unfair Contract Act 1977 - you can read about it here

Don't be surprised if the owner tries it on now, because he/she has the upper hand. You're already there, your business is based there, so you probably have the more to lose if the owner decides punitive terms, because you'll have to move your business. On the other hand they may decide that it's a risky strategy to kind of force you out because some money from a room is better than no money from an empty room.
You'll likely need a solicitor to give any contract the once over to make sure you're not being done over.
Good luck!

 

[Terese]

Im with Carla...why NO contract....it safe guards you and stops things like this happening.

My thoughts are that with no contract in place, the landlord can change his mind willy nilly and there is little you can do about it. Premises I was looking at last year did allow me to sublet, there was no penalty for doing so, its a case of a greedy landlord and a non savvy buisness person(sorry if it sounds harsh, its my opinion), it happens time and time again and I hate seeing people in our industry getting ripped off because they havent sorted out the paperwork before hand!

ask your landlord for the terms and conditions in writing a.s.a.p....go see a solicitor when you have these, as you may have an argument that you have carried on with this arrangement since "whenever" and as he sees you making money from it wants his share, oh and make sure you have and keep when the nurse has been coming in to do the treatments.
What ever you do from now on YOU must get it in writing....ask the landlord to put what he wants in writing TODAY....
Good Luck

 

[beautybyselina]

hi everyone, i asked the owner of the salon today if i could get a contract, he said yes hes doing one but he got to see his solicitor, and its going to cost me a few hundred pounds, i asked why would it cot me? and he said its because of the agreement between the tenant and the landlord! i know this is not right, i have had contracts before and never paid a penny!!! please give me some more advice on what to do now as i have allready set my bussiness up. x

 

[Blue Rose]

I think it's standard practise when you are renting/leasing a room or premises that the tenant (you) pays both sides of legal fees.

Bit of a pig I know & I got caught with that one a couple of years ago when I rented a shop (for a non-beauty business)