free nvq 2 ?

[ticen rustem]

I went to a nss whole salers today to buy some opi nail polish ( £3.50 no vat ) and noticed a sign which read

Free nvq2 course at enfield college.

I questioned the lady and asked if it was 1 year course? she said it was a 4 day course in which they get a certificate if they pass the test at the end. She then said it is designed for her community only ?

It took me a whole year to get my nvq 2 certificate and it was'nt free.

Not sure what to make of this. Would like to hear anyones opinion?

 

[magsham]

I went to a nss whole salers today to buy some opi nail polish ( £3.50 no vat ) and noticed a sign which read

Free nvq2 course at enfield college.

I questioned the lady and asked if it was 1 year course? she said it was a 4 day course in which they get a certificate if they pass the test at the end. She then said it is designed for her community only ?

It took me a whole year to get my nvq 2 certificate and it was'nt free.

Not sure what to make of this. Would like to hear anyones opinion?

Yup, this seems to be the thing. I did mine at Stanmore College and saw my tutor just before christmas and the same thing is happening there. I think its aimed at the young peeps who aren't doing too well at school and this way they get a vocational qualification to leave school with. Good idea - don't really know, but it doesn't stop it being a bitter pill! :irked:

 

[oey]

What do you mean by a NSS wholesalers? By offering a course that is for "her community only" isnt that discrimination?

 

[del3]

NVQ in 4 days...OMG!!!
So there's going to be more poor students leaving collage knowing next to nothing and let loose on the public.(IMO)
If anyone has done this I would be very intersested to hear how you got on and how do you feel about this training.
xx:hug:xx

 

[Lucy-Jayne]

I'm actually doing NVQ2 in Beauty in 4 days towards the end of this month at a private college. I am however doing NVQ3 as well and paying near to £4K for it all. It's perfect for the situation that I'm in at the moment, and I expect this kind of thing is perfect for a lot of other people too considering different circumstances. Won't go into mine... read my blog!

I do however realise that this is not the end of my training and will need more over time to be fully competent. For example, hopefully going to see the Wax Queen for some 1-1 training!

It's a total of 14 days with the NVQ 2 & 3 together. I get a diploma at the end of the 14 days which is recognised by insurers etc.

I don't get my NVQ though until I have completed my portfolio, done some tests and plenty of case studies.

I expect there is a lot more to the course at the Enfield college that the woman wasn't perhaps giving out. They may fast track you through the initial training like they are me, but at the end of the day it's a government recognised qualification. They have their standards and the individuals must be qualified to a certain extent by ways of tests and portfolio and case studies etc.

One thing to mention though is that out of all of the training I'lll be doing, I didn't select the nail enhancements part, because a) I already know it, and b) IMO you CAN'T learn all 3 systems in one day!

 

[HayleyJoyce]

I'm shocked... I'm doing an intensive NVQ 2 course in beauty therapy, it's one day a week for a year, nearly finished and loving it but there is so..... much work and revision... just the anatomy and physiology would take 4 days to learn and be tested on! I don't see how they can cover everything, what is it? One day waxing, one manicure/pedicure, one makeup and one lash tinting/curling etc? How on earth???

 

[ticen rustem]

What do you mean by a NSS wholesalers? By offering a course that is for "her community only" isnt that discrimination?

The lady who owns this wholesalers also has her own nss salons. She told me they use the cheap l&p which she tried to sell me And only swap over when being inspected by the council.
So im guessing this course is especially for her employees and others in the same position.

 

[Lucy-Jayne]

I'm shocked... I'm doing an intensive NVQ 2 course in beauty therapy, it's one day a week for a year, nearly finished and loving it but there is so..... much work and revision... just the anatomy and physiology would take 4 days to learn and be tested on! I don't see how they can cover everything, what is it? One day waxing, one manicure/pedicure, one makeup and one lash tinting/curling etc? How on earth???

Yes it is like that. They teach you how to do it. And in your own time, you study towards the NVQ with the literature that they give you and the books you buy. I will be constantly studying afterwards. They will be sending me tests for me to complete as I go along. And at the end of it, which could take me 4 months or even up to a year, I get my NVQ. It will be with the same tests as everyone else.

 

[mum]

Gaining an NVQ is not about a few days and a few tests! You are being misled!

You may get a 'diploma'. But who's diploma? What does it mean to anyone other than who gave it to you?

To gain even 1 unit of an NVQ (and there are several in each level) takes quite a lot of work building a portfolio and a lot of assessments. It also takes registration with an Awarding Body (e.g. City & Guilds, VTCT etc) None of this will be free!!!!

It's such a shame that so many who work in this industry feel the need to mislead. And it's a shame that so many are prepared to believe them. Fortunately there are informative sites like this for those that find them and have the common sense to question things that don't ring true before jumping in

 

[Lucy-Jayne]

This diploma is a CIBT given by the Carlton Institute, one of the top private beauty colleges in the country. It is recognised by insurers and employers and all professional associations.

As stated in my previous post it's not just 4 days and a few tests. It's ongoing.

 

[mum]

This diploma is a CIBT given by the Carlton Institute, one of the top private beauty colleges in the country. It is recognised by insurers and employers and all professional associations.

As stated in my previous post it's not just 4 days and a few tests. It's ongoing.

That's why I'm saying it's a shame that people are being misled into thinking that NVQ's are free and done in 4 days!!!

 

[Lucy-Jayne]

That's why I'm saying it's a shame that people are being misled into thinking that NVQ's are free and done in 4 days!!!

Woops! Sorry Marian, got the wrong end of the stick.

I completely agree, and to be perfectly honest, I know that I'm not going to know everything even when I finish the NVQs. I'm going to have to constantly train and improve after that. It's the industry that we work in that dictates this IMO. But I suppose that's where I differ from a lot of people who go into these things thinking thats it, all done and dusted!

The reason I'm doing it isn't even really to start working full time as a Beauty Therapist. I'm soon to be managing 3 members of staff and just think that I should have some kind of understanding as to what's going on!

 

[hippy-chick]

I have taught in colleges to NVQ3 level in holistics.
What I would suggest to people in this situation is to do 1 year diploma in swedish massage to IIHHT or IHBC level then do short intensive courses after that.

I find college courses are stretched out to justify it being a 'year's' course, and if the students are prepared to do a lot of work towards it, ie do case studies at home rather than at college, these courses could be shortened.

I think Lucy-Jayne is going the right way about it, she is not expecting to come out of the course fully competant and be an expert at everything, that comes with case studies.

I did a crystal therapy course in 2 days, most crystal therapy courses are 2 years long. I had to do 10 case studies before I received my qualification.

we had 3 people on this course who had started the 2 year course but couldn't continue with it due to family commitments and time scale and cost. they all agreed that the 2 day course was fabulous.

 

[mum]

I have taught in colleges to NVQ3 level in holistics.
What I would suggest to people in this situation is to do 1 year diploma in swedish massage to IIHHT or IHBC level then do short intensive courses after that.

I find college courses are stretched out to justify it being a 'year's' course, and if the students are prepared to do a lot of work towards it, ie do case studies at home rather than at college, these courses could be shortened.

I think Lucy-Jayne is going the right way about it, she is not expecting to come out of the course fully competant and be an expert at everything, that comes with case studies.

I did a crystal therapy course in 2 days, most crystal therapy courses are 2 years long. I had to do 10 case studies before I received my qualification.

we had 3 people on this course who had started the 2 year course but couldn't continue with it due to family commitments and time scale and cost. they all agreed that the 2 day course was fabulous.

Exactly!

And Lucy-Jayne, I'm pleased we sorted out the misunderstanding. I think your approach is great! Taking the time to gain a degree of understanding what the people you manage have to deal with can only result in a good situation for all concerned

 

[del3]

I'm actually doing NVQ2 in Beauty in 4 days towards the end of this month at a private college. I am however doing NVQ3 as well and paying near to £4K for it all. It's perfect for the situation that I'm in at the moment, and I expect this kind of thing is perfect for a lot of other people too considering different circumstances. Won't go into mine... read my blog!

I do however realise that this is not the end of my training and will need more over time to be fully competent. For example, hopefully going to see the Wax Queen for some 1-1 training!

It's a total of 14 days with the NVQ 2 & 3 together. I get a diploma at the end of the 14 days which is recognised by insurers etc.

I don't get my NVQ though until I have completed my portfolio, done some tests and plenty of case studies.

I expect there is a lot more to the course at the Enfield college that the woman wasn't perhaps giving out. They may fast track you through the initial training like they are me, but at the end of the day it's a government recognised qualification. They have their standards and the individuals must be qualified to a certain extent by ways of tests and portfolio and case studies etc.

One thing to mention though is that out of all of the training I'lll be doing, I didn't select the nail enhancements part, because a) I already know it, and b) IMO you CAN'T learn all 3 systems in one day!

This sounds MUCH more realistic than the 4day course that the woman in the suppliers was talking about.
As for her I'd stay well away from her....she sounds like the type that is giving our indusrty the reputation we are striving to eliminate.
xxx

 

[HayleyJoyce]

Good on you Lucy-Jane... I have to admit I find on the one day a week course there is quite alot of time wasting but it is a really good course and many outsiders (including me when I started) would be surprised at all the theory that goes into just the NVQ2 never mind the NVQ3, not going into that one. Let us know how you're getting on, I'll have all my theory to hand to answer any questions.

 

[chaseyboi]

Im currently doing VCTC level 2 at my local college. Its okish but will defo be contacting CND, NSI or some one to do some proper training after this.
I decided to choose this route because I didnt want to attend a course with a big company and waste everyones time coz im a slow learner.

At least now I can take my time with the basics and when im ready do a decent course I can get the full benefit from my new educator.

HTH XX

 

[NEW-TO-IT]

Lucy Jayne, your from my neck of the woods and i was wondering where you are doing your training as i have looked at kingston college and its one night a week for a year or am i best trying to do a training course directly from someone like Edge?
cheers. x