No prep and the nail still stayed on ?

[audrey]

hi all i had a client today who has been going to a nss tech for a while now. anyway i start by preping the nail and when i put cutical remover on and started to push back the cuticals she said "what are you doing" i explained how important preping the nails are etc oh she said when i go to my other tech she gets straight down to applying the acrylic .i then asked do they last ? yes she said i dont get lifting either takes 40 mins .so why if no prep are they not lifting etc .one good thing i then asked her why did you come to me she said a lot of her friends have had bad experience and told her she should go somewhere where the tech is actually trained :lol: xxx

 

[abook]

Hello!
Obviously she took her friends advice and decided to go somewhere where someone knows what they are doing! Anyhow, I have done practice sets on people before without doing prep because I wanted them to come right off...and low and behold...they stayed. The only reason I can really think of is that maybe her nails are dry enough on their own to not cause the product to lift. On the other hand, a trained profession such as you or myself uses cuticle cleaning techniques, where as some of the "quick shops" will just use the drill to get rid of all of the yuky stuff around the cuticles. So maybe she didn't recognize you were doing it the right way versus the dangerous way! Good luck, and best of all...education is most important. I've found that so long as I am honest and fill my clients full of information they appreciate my services that much more and it helps build great relationships!!

 

[geeg]

They did all their PREP with a drill that's why they stayed on. Simple.

 

[audrey]

They did all their PREP with a drill that's why they stayed on. Simple.

hi geeg she did say she has had a break for a while because her nails where so weak "felt thin she said" and she had some marks on her fingers round her cutical area old marks where she had drill burns so can i guess its not only the cutical they remove i have never had the pleasure of visiting a nss place and hope no one i know will either xx

 

[thinkpink2008]

i have read quite a few things about nss using MMA, from what i have gathered the tech will take the nail plate down so far and then the MMA adheres to this and is virtually impossible to remove easily. when breaking one i have known people to loose their whole or part of their nail withit as it adheres so well.
from what i have read i am pretty sure mma is a dental adhesive but please correct me if i'm wrong.
hth xx

 

[geeg]

i have read quite a few things about nss using MMA, from what i have gathered the tech will take the nail plate down so far and then the MMA adheres to this and is virtually impossible to remove easily. when breaking one i have known people to loose their whole or part of their nail withit as it adheres so well.
from what i have read i am pretty sure mma is a dental adhesive but please correct me if i'm wrong.
hth xx

It adheres well only because it clings into all the etched and roughened surface ... in the same way that plaster clings to a wall. In fact without the heavy scoring or etching, MMA would not stick well at all to the nail plate; this is why they have to do it. MMA is very incompatible to the nail plate actually unless it is heavily roughened first.

MMA monomer is used in the dental industry.