Training in male Brazilian waxing

[Axiom]

Hello everyone, I'm hoping to pick your brains!

Something I've been thinking of doing for a while is to offer training in male Brazilian waxing (back, sac and crack) to therapists who want to offer this service to their clients.

I'm of the firm belief that this is a skill that needs to be learnt properly in a supportive "hands-on" environment, and I have been tentatively writing a course for the last few months to fulfil this need. The training material and workbook are now nearly complete and I’m about to approach various organisations to ensure the course will be recognised for insurance purposes, but before I go any further I wanted to do a bit of final market research to see what people thought.

I have ideas on all of the following already, but wanted to check how much my thinking is in line with others out there…

(a) First of all, do you think this is a course people would even want to access? Do you have demand for this service in your own salon? The number of emails I get asking for tips and advice suggest it is, but maybe I’m deluding myself??

(b) If you were to train in this area yourself, what would you be looking for from a course (content-wise, etc)?

(c) Any ideas on duration (1 day, 2 days, etc), maximum class size and a rough price?

(d) Would you want to do the training in your salon (i.e. I come to you, and you provide the models) or would you prefer to travel to my salon, or even a neutral training venue with other therapists to learn?

So many questions, sorry! Please feel welcome to PM me if you'd rather not post a public response, but any and all comments would be most welcome.

Thanks in advance for your help (and thanks to Sassy for proof-reading this before I posted!!)

Andy

 

[Sassy Hassy]

Well I wish you well with your venture Andy and hope the geeks give you the constructive feedback you need.

I've only just started in my waxing career so the thought of doing a bsc would be a little daunting for me, but I think there is a definite shortage of good training to learn advanced waxing.

Where I do my private training it's about £120 a day, or £200 for one to one tuition. Maximum class size is 4 which is a good size and it gives me a VTCT qualification. I travel to her, but if it was a far distance away then I would prefer in-salon training as I find I am knackered before I even start the day and so don't concentrate as well.

 

[Cathie!]

I would be interested in training in this...the market is there, we were just talking about it today, there aren't any salons by me who will undertake this type of service....

I would be happy to travel to you (or you could come to me for 1-2-1 but I guess that would put the price up).... and a one day course would be preferable, unless you felt that one day wasn't enough to cover all aspects of the training....price....I guess that's up to you but generally £100 per day plus VAT.

Maybe I'm a bit wierd but I can see myself performing this service for a bloke but I am very tentative about doing the Brazillian female waxing!

Obviously all course attendees would have to be seasoned waxers!

It's a very specialised area which I believe needs specialised training....I can imagine the s and c areas going very wrong in the wrong hands.

 

[Axiom]

Thanks guys for your feedback - it is indeed a service that few salons offer, and I get the impression that there is still a fair bit of misinformation out there about this treatment. I'm on a mission to change that, lol!!

Obviously all course attendees would have to be seasoned waxers!

It's a very specialised area which I believe needs specialised training....I can imagine the s and c areas going very wrong in the wrong hands.

Oh crikey yes, I've lost count of the number of clients that come to see me with horror stories of an errant spatula or over-enthusiastic strip waxer! It brings tears to my eyes sometimes, lol!

 

[cantrelax]

Hi Andy,

I would definatley do this course. No salons in my area offer this service for men.

I think that I would prefere a one day course where the trainer came to me. I am not sure wether I would be able to get the model in but the option of you brining one would be good.

If I came to you I would appreciate a smalll class size, maximum 4 people. That way I would feel like you could actually see what we were all doing as apposed to just peeking in at each pair.

Would we have to purchase a kit? I guess as Cathie has said 100+vat is a good price.

 

[wondernail]

It is an area I never thought of...but a very good idea. Why shouldn't men want to have the short, back and sides down on their nether regions?

I for one would be very interested in the course...again like Cathy, I could handle the idea of doing this for a man but a brazilian on a woman would for me require more courage!!

Good luck with the venture let us know when you are up and running and yes I would be very interested in enrolling.

 

[Axiom]

Hi Alex

I think that I would prefere a one day course where the trainer came to me. I am not sure wether I would be able to get the model in but the option of you brining one would be good.

I have a few clients who have already mentioned they'd consider being models if I ran training at my salon, although I must admit I hadn't considered the option of bringing them with me "on the road" if I came to you and you were unable to supply models yourself... Hmmm, good idea, that's certainly food for thought, thanks!

Would we have to purchase a kit?

I don't envisage this being the case, no, although I intend to approach my current supplier and see whether there would be any discounts available in return for me recommending their wax! I use hard wax for BSC treatments, and would bring this with me if I was training in someone else's salon and they did not currently use it.

It is an area I never thought of...but a very good idea. Why shouldn't men want to have the short, back and sides down on their nether regions?

Angela, I love that turn of phrase, lol!! :lol:

 

[*JOANNE*]

i think its a great area to consider, men especially these days are alot more in touch with issues reguarding their personal apperance, i know there are men out there who would be ideal to market this too, men like woman dont like hair down there for the same reasons women dont, hygeine, friction during sports and for looks.
as i am about to look into wax training this would be an excellent thing for me to do i think maybe a one day course would be enough if the therapist was a waxer initially, like an add on training nodule like brazillian waxing.

for alot of us our models would be ie boyfriends and husbands i think would prefer in house training either in their own salon or if the therapist was mobile..at home
i am an ex medic who used to treat sailors with std's so this would not embarrass myself and i think from a marketing point of view for myself it could be quite a good add on service...of course it would only be a small percentage of clientell this would appeal too but why not

 

[Cathie!]

OMG Joanne, I cannot for the life of me imagine my hubby being a model for this lol....although I do have a few friends who would be willing...maybe I have a different take on the market or my potential market for this service!!

But yes, you are right Brazillian is in whether sraight or gay, male or female :hug:

 

[Snugglepuss]

I would love to offer this service for men - unfortunately it would be too far for me to come for one day and vice versa. A few peeps I have spoken to, don't like to wax men in any region - never mind the nether region :lol: furthermore they don't like to wax women in their nether region either (there you go Joanne you have started a nether craze:lol: ) and some don't even like to wax overly hairy legs. Perhaps it's because of the type of area but isn't skin nicer when it's hair free and silky smooth wherever it is??????:lol:

 

[angel fingers]

i'm sure there would be a demand for it, i have never seen it advertised with any other trainer.

out of interest axiom, where did you learn b/s/c. or have you developed your own method from a basic waxing qualification. i wouldnt have a clue where to start and am not confident even with a regular bikini wax.

 

[Axiom]

Thanks guys for all your comments - I'm really encouraged to hear so many of you think it's worth pursuing!

A few peeps I have spoken to, don't like to wax men in any region - never mind the nether region :lol:

You're absolutely right Debbie - in fact this was one of the main reasons I got into this beauty lark in the first place, as I was having so much trouble finding a salon in my area that would provide any treatments for men, let alone waxing! Fortunately times have changed, but there are still plenty of salons out there who think us men have three heads or something

out of interest axiom, where did you learn b/s/c. or have you developed your own method from a basic waxing qualification. i wouldnt have a clue where to start and am not confident even with a regular bikini wax.

Hi Susan - I trained in basic waxing before going on to do my full beauty NVQ, and also undertook a specialist Brazilian waxing course to top up my skills. I didn't feel 100% happy with a lot of what the trainer showed me, and so I basically retrained myself - I emailed therapists already offering this service in America and Europe and pestered them with questions, spent a fortune on every DVD I could find, practiced on anyone who would let me, and I even went so far as to undergo the treatment myself so I could see how other people did it... now that's dedication, lol! And like all of us I've honed things over time and learnt from my mistakes along the way (but I don't tell my customers that ). So I guess you could say that I've rebuilt my method from scratch, as very little of what I was originally taught has made it to my treatment room!

I'm at a stage now where I'd love to pass on what I've learnt and demystify the whole thing, as I think a lot of people share your apprehension and simply don't know where or how to start!

 

[Snugglepuss]

hey Andy would it be poss to put some of your knowledge onto a DVD ??? - I would buy it - it might be worth a go Debbie xx

 

[spraytanpro]

hey Andy would it be poss to put some of your knowledge onto a DVD ??? - I would buy it - it might be worth a go Debbie xx

It should slip through the Censors as an educational DVD

Seriously though the market is tiny for men

Surely the problem is that more men find shaven/waxed women sexy, than women find shaven/waxed men sexy, & most of it is done to please their partner?

Richard

(Hands off my B, S & C)

 

[huberella]

There is a huge market for male braz waxes where I am. But nobody to do it. I am the only peron that does them between 3 cities. And the odd guy that has had it done before always has a horror story to tell (same with a lot of women too). I strongly believe there is not enough education when it comes to this type of waxing. I have often thought of doing a training video. I think it's great that you are wanting to do this. I've heard of a male braz wax refered as the "Baseball wax".... Bat, Balls, and Dugout .... kind of catchy.

 

[dee]

i think providing a course is a fab idea, i know a lot of damage can be done to poor blokes bits when done wrong (read horror stories on waxwaxwax.com:irked: )
and i would deffo do a course if i was gonna offer the service, have always wanted to !! also think a dvd is a fab idea so i say you should do it , i am sure you will get plenty of therapists offering to book on it
good luck , dee xxxxx

 

[angelxdevil]

Hi Andy

Only me x I'm replying to your email that you sent to me last week here think it might help everyone too x

I offer this where I am and I have clients who come from far and wide, trust me if you're good at your job they'll travel. I have clients who travel 2 hours to get to me. It's surprising a lot of salons etc offer male waxing but not brazilian/hollywood or speedo.

I started off with the usual waxing course and then I spoke to Andy about a year ago on how to perfect my skill on this area and I haven't looked back. I would still be interested in seeing how someone else does it. You can never have enough knowledge IMO.

Only thing girlies is I wouldn't go into this area of waxing if you are embarressed easily. I've heard horror stories of my guys going to young girls who have got really embarressed half way through a treatment.

Reason why I say this as some men can get slightly arroused, it's a very natural reaction but you have to be very professional.

I never offer this service as a mobile service it is done in a quiet room and there is always a male on the premises.

I love my job and have a passion for this skill.

Andy has really helped me and I'm sure he can help you.

Andy

I would keep it to 1 day training. Make sure everyone has passed a waxing course. Charges should probably be around the same as Ellisons or someone like that £100.00 plus vat.

Like the option of either you go to them and you find the model or they find the model as you could add a charge for finding the model.

I would also get other trainers on board and they could work for you and then you could offer it all over the country and then you could concentrate on other things x Also great idea regarding setting up in Capital etc.

I hope I've answered your questions and also helped others x

 

[Axiom]

hey Andy would it be poss to put some of your knowledge onto a DVD ??? - I would buy it - it might be worth a go Debbie xx

Funny you should mention this Debbie, I was talking about it just last night with a friend! I've wanted to produce a DVD on all aspects on male waxing for a while - the trouble is finding someone with the right equipment (that's camera equipment I'm referring to here! ) and editing skills. If the course proves popular, I'll certainly use the proceeds to fund the production of a DVD, as I think they can be incredibly useful to top up personal skills.

 

[Axiom]

I've heard of a male braz wax refered as the "Baseball wax".... Bat, Balls, and Dugout .... kind of catchy.

LOVE IT!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

I offer this where I am and I have clients who come from far and wide, trust me if you're good at your job they'll travel. I have clients who travel 2 hours to get to me. It's surprising a lot of salons etc offer male waxing but not brazilian/hollywood or speedo.

Sarah, you're so right - I have people from all over the south of England that come to get their monthly wax, and the great thing about this service is that people often go by recommendation (I've seen you recommended on Mens Health forum, for example, so it just goes to show!).

And thank you for your kind comments, I'm glad I was able to help :o

Andy

 

[spraytanpro]

LOVE IT!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:



Sarah, you're so right - I have people from all over the south of England that come to get their monthly wax, and the great thing about this service is that people often go by recommendation (I've seen you recommended on Mens Health forum, for example, so it just goes to show!).

And thank you for your kind comments, I'm glad I was able to help :o

Andy

I just can't believe it is so popular.
I supose it is such a niche market that people are willing to travel to find a practitioner.
I can feel a mindset change coming on, how much was that course?

Richard.